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Old 19-10-2007 | 09:51 PM
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anyone own/ owned 328i? e36? my budget wont stretch to a good m3 for the ring, so im thinking 328i? anyone???
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have a look in cars forsale mate, someones selling a bargain car

328 for the ring is ok,,,,, but the diff is longer and the manifolds need changing to a 325i one for it to have better power

not bad cars though but IMO still gonna be gutless up hill like my car was
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My E36 325i:


The 328i is only 1bhp up on a 325i! 328i has a fair bit more torque however.

Lovely cars though, comfy, reliable, just nice cars and excellent value, i love mine, massive difference to my old S2! Miss boost but the 6pot sounds amazing on song
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try to only buy one thats had the engine changed as they suffered with nikasil issues from basicly the sulphar in our fuel eatling liners.

for piece of mind more then anything, theres still lots of nikasil affected cars on the road but they are dropping slowly i see a fair few on ebay with low compresson problems etc


fookin great cars though i just sold my cabrio a couple months ago
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My E36 325i:


The 328i is only 1bhp up on a 325i! 328i has a fair bit more torque however.

Lovely cars though, comfy, reliable, just nice cars and excellent value, i love mine, massive difference to my old S2! Miss boost but the 6pot sounds amazing on song
Wow thats mint

I got an E36 2.0, paid pennies for it and love it to bits!! Got an M3 lump and diff for a conversion for it though, cant wait!!
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My E36 325i:


The 328i is only 1bhp up on a 325i! 328i has a fair bit more torque however.

Lovely cars though, comfy, reliable, just nice cars and excellent value, i love mine, massive difference to my old S2! Miss boost but the 6pot sounds amazing on song

now THAT looks a fucking nice car

gotta agree, i love my 325i,,,, its cheep as fuck, sits at 130ish mph very well, aint that pikey just yet and i can abuse it and not worry about what could happen

ive spent just under 500 quid on it this month though

but thats for wishbones, clutch, pads, disks, service, coilpacks, lambda sensor, cat, more fucking tyres to go with the clutch, bushes and reconded the steering rack and took it in for a mot

THE ONLY WORK I DONE WAS ADJUST THE STEERING RACK LIKE THEY DON WHEN THEY RECON THEM

rest of work was done by a garage,,,,, when you consider that ive abused this car for over a year and done over 10 laps of the ring in it and 23k miles,,,,,, i cant complain really
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oh also fitted a rack and a rocker cover gasket

i love my job these days,,, 6 coil packs for demo use as we just started making them, service kit foc as i use the car for some meetings

id price up the retail i would have paied but it might put people off
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thanks all, im looking around atm, but looks like it will be a 328 sport / or a touring.
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I've had an E36 325,328, M3 3.0 & M3 Evo 3.2, great cars, even though on paper the power for 325 & 328 are almost the same the 328 feels a lot quicker, after owning all of them the 328 is the best all round model for performance if you want something cheap to run. Still thinking of selling my Evo & buying a 328 sport to release some funds for a track car also,here's mine:


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I found 328 sports impressive, quick cars really. Normal non-sport 328s arent suppsoed to be that good though. 325 was a bit too soft for my liking.
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The only difference betwween a 328 sport & the normal 328 coupe is M tec suspension, M tec body kit, 17 inch cross bolt wheels, they aren't any faster, i think a bog standard 328 sport with correct factory wheels looks really nice, i hate any add on shit on BMW's it looks tacky,stupid lights & pimp wheels,lowered it all looks chav but then i am old i used to like that sort of thing 20 yrs ago !

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DUDE!! got for whatever your budget lets you... the 325 is not slow by any means and the 328 is not really much faster, my advice would be buy a good e36 316 or sumit, make sure its a good solid one and then do the full M3 conversion on it.. i mean everything from a smashed up one or somthing, that way you can spread the cost and not have to wory about being left behind... ect, anyhow.. heres mine
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DUDE!! got for whatever your budget lets you... the 325 is not slow by any means and the 328 is not really much faster, my advice would be buy a good e36 316 or sumit, make sure its a good solid one and then do the full M3 conversion on it.. i mean everything from a smashed up one or somthing, that way you can spread the cost and not have to wory about being left behind... ect, anyhow.. heres mine
The 328 sport is 1.5 seconds quicker 0-60 than a 325, thats a fair amount, and as i say my old 325 couldnt touch my mates 328 sport
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The only difference betwween a 328 sport & the normal 328 coupe is M tec suspension, M tec body kit, 17 inch cross bolt wheels, they aren't any faster, i think a bog standard 328 sport with correct factory wheels looks really nice, i hate any add on shit on BMW's it looks tacky,stupid lights & pimp wheels,lowered it all looks chav but then i am old i used to like that sort of thing 20 yrs ago !

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Well the figures show the sport is around a second quicker 0-60 and 0.7 quicker on the 1/4 mile, which is decent performance improvement for a set of rims and a kit

http://www.carspecsdirectory.com/BMW.htm

I looked at buying one before and didnt realise the massive difference in performance till i looked at it properly.
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Hi mate. i am considering selling my 330ci sport touring. Lovely car. What budget you got?
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My old 328i Sport was a top motor, bit heavy on fuel, but what do you expect for something that got spanked hard all the time

















Much prefer my E39 530d Sport tho
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DUDE!! got for whatever your budget lets you... the 325 is not slow by any means and the 328 is not really much faster, my advice would be buy a good e36 316 or sumit, make sure its a good solid one and then do the full M3 conversion on it.. i mean everything from a smashed up one or somthing, that way you can spread the cost and not have to wory about being left behind... ect, anyhow.. heres mine
The 328 sport is 1.5 seconds quicker 0-60 than a 325, thats a fair amount, and as i say my old 325 couldnt touch my mates 328 sport
you old 325 had 2 fucked coil packs though and rocker cover gasket leaking oil into the spark plug wells
its hard to tell a weak spark on a straight 6 engine,,,, but ive sorted that all out and it now pulls alot better than it EVER did

done 125 on the A406 slip road joining the A406

the issues with the car was lambda sensor, fucked cat

the cat and lambda was caused buy the 2 failing coil packs not burning the fuel, the coil packs where caused buy the rocker cover gasket draining oil into the spark plug well

cars running fine now as said never been quicker, also a new clutch helps i guess

but the lower diff gearing means its alot nippier round town but gears aint long enough

when you consider the car weighs so much too aint bad going to be fair
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i have both a m3 and a 328i - goes ok sounds nice handle s well for what it is
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DUDE!! got for whatever your budget lets you... the 325 is not slow by any means and the 328 is not really much faster, my advice would be buy a good e36 316 or sumit, make sure its a good solid one and then do the full M3 conversion on it.. i mean everything from a smashed up one or somthing, that way you can spread the cost and not have to wory about being left behind... ect, anyhow.. heres mine
The 328 sport is 1.5 seconds quicker 0-60 than a 325, thats a fair amount, and as i say my old 325 couldnt touch my mates 328 sport
you old 325 had 2 fucked coil packs though and rocker cover gasket leaking oil into the spark plug wells
its hard to tell a weak spark on a straight 6 engine,,,, but ive sorted that all out and it now pulls alot better than it EVER did

done 125 on the A406 slip road joining the A406

the issues with the car was lambda sensor, fucked cat

the cat and lambda was caused buy the 2 failing coil packs not burning the fuel, the coil packs where caused buy the rocker cover gasket draining oil into the spark plug well

cars running fine now as said never been quicker, also a new clutch helps i guess

but the lower diff gearing means its alot nippier round town but gears aint long enough

when you consider the car weighs so much too aint bad going to be fair
Fair play, but its still never going to touch a 328 sport is it? IMO a quick car does 60 quicker than high 7s. That basically means a virtually standard saxo VTS would have one. Not slating the car generally, just a E36 325 has never, and never will be known as a quick car.
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DUDE!! got for whatever your budget lets you... the 325 is not slow by any means and the 328 is not really much faster, my advice would be buy a good e36 316 or sumit, make sure its a good solid one and then do the full M3 conversion on it.. i mean everything from a smashed up one or somthing, that way you can spread the cost and not have to wory about being left behind... ect, anyhow.. heres mine
The 328 sport is 1.5 seconds quicker 0-60 than a 325, thats a fair amount, and as i say my old 325 couldnt touch my mates 328 sport
you old 325 had 2 fucked coil packs though and rocker cover gasket leaking oil into the spark plug wells
its hard to tell a weak spark on a straight 6 engine,,,, but ive sorted that all out and it now pulls alot better than it EVER did

done 125 on the A406 slip road joining the A406

the issues with the car was lambda sensor, fucked cat

the cat and lambda was caused buy the 2 failing coil packs not burning the fuel, the coil packs where caused buy the rocker cover gasket draining oil into the spark plug well

cars running fine now as said never been quicker, also a new clutch helps i guess

but the lower diff gearing means its alot nippier round town but gears aint long enough

when you consider the car weighs so much too aint bad going to be fair
Fair play, but its still never going to touch a 328 sport is it? IMO a quick car does 60 quicker than high 7s. That basically means a virtually standard saxo VTS would have one. Not slating the car generally, just a E36 325 has never, and never will be known as a quick car.
yeah but where the saxo stuggles to get to 85 and the screams its arse off at 100mph due to the short gears allowing it to FEEL fast

the bmw will be changing upto 5th gear and carry on to 115 then start to slow a little all the way to 145 to 150ish

quick car,,,, or car that does a job thats required,,,, well i KNOW that i can do 130 in the bmw, having a conversation on my phone with the other hand on the wheel,,,,,,, wonder if the saxo vts can do that ???

oh and figures are going based on the people driving them,,,, most saxo owners cant drive for shite due to inexperience and wheel spin

simon drive cars when they are new then judge them,,,,,,dont judge them when they got 140k miles on the clock, welded plate with the near side read wheel bend/dragging dueto the bodge, worn shocks, missing engine, fucked steeing rack and lower arms,,,

its BOUND to feel shite

the BMW of mine aint EVER had a GENIUNE computer MOT,, both of them where FAKE btw,,,, that means its never had a MOT for over 2 years MIN,,,, the rear quarter was never repaired just skimmed and painted

basically the cars been bodged for a good while,,,, never gonna feel nice is it

drive it these days and the storey has changed,, drive it in 6 months and it may change again also

oh forgot about the CUT rear springs to lower it at the back causing the brass bush to pull though the top mount when it when round the ring

yes ive done a little bit of work on the car to see the problems,, and thats just to make is safe and road worthy and at prices 30% the retail and labour rate of a garage at 20 quid a hour
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funny i've just been looking at these....

whats the 328 like against the M3, is there much between them?

what they like to live with?

have they been turbo'd? lol nah cant do with more things to fall apart

pissed off with my S1, need a daily
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Originally Posted by simonc
The only difference betwween a 328 sport & the normal 328 coupe is M tec suspension, M tec body kit, 17 inch cross bolt wheels, they aren't any faster, i think a bog standard 328 sport with correct factory wheels looks really nice, i hate any add on shit on BMW's it looks tacky,stupid lights & pimp wheels,lowered it all looks chav but then i am old i used to like that sort of thing 20 yrs ago !

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Just as a point of fact, all E36 328 coupes will have M-tech suspension as standard unless it was specifically asked to be deleted - option 704 was a no-cost delete option.
Very few coupes don't have M-Tech. M-tech set up was also available on saloons as an option.

Where the 328 Sport differed, chassis/suspension wise from the normal 328 Coupe was in the AVUS pack that was fitted.
This meant the Sport model got uprated Bilsteins over the normal M-tech shocks. The 328 Sport was also fitted with eccentric bushes at the rear of the front wishbones. These effectively give it 10mm longer wheelbase and more caster ( helps preserve the small amount of -ve camber as you turn in ). Also, early Sports had a factory fit LSD ( later ones had ASC instead ). The ARBs were the same thickness on all E36 328 Coupes with M-tech, Sport or not

If you buy a normal 328 Coupe you can retro-fit the LSD ( if you can get one! - or one off an earlier E36 Coupe or E36 3.0 M3 )( although the ratio is different on these )).
You can also fit the X-brace off a convertible - BMW used it themselves on the E36 M3 CSL which helps the car feel a bit "tighter" in corners.
Also worthwhile are the Z3 rear shock mount reinforcement plates, front M3 shock mount reinforcement plates. BMW also do a CC bolt to give you an extra 0.5 degree -ve camber on each front wheel ( about £1 each ). People told me the settings might "walk" after a while with these but mine have stayed OK. Proper caster/camber plates are a more elegant solution though.
If you're coming from a Cossie and find the steering ratio too slow (3.4 turns lock to lock ) you can fit a Z3 one ( not Z3M though ) and lose over half a turn ( 2.8ish lock to lock ). It bolts straight up although you have to fabricate a very small plate to support a power steering pipe which is routed slightly differently to the Z3 rack.
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if you are driving the 'ring, do it in something that you can afford to crash. that is the most important consideration imo.

power is not important - why do you think you need it? what are you trying to achieve with it? get a lap time that will make you a "driving god" down the pub?
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if you are driving the 'ring, do it in something that you can afford to crash. that is the most important consideration imo.
Also, if you are using it at the Ring there's a few little mods you can do to the brakes to improve them cheaply.

If you're running at least 16" wheels you can uprate the front discs to the E46 328 ( slightly bigger dia ) if you get the E46 caliper carriers ( retain existing calipers ).
If you're running at least 17" wheels you can use the 330 discs and calipers ( much bigger dia discs ) but it is best to change for the M3 master cylinder at the same time to avoid extra pedal travel. If you want, BMW also do a Motorsport front and back disc for the 330i/330d application with cast holes ( like Porsche ) rather than cross-drilled holes through.
Pagid yellows work well on the std discs
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power is not important - why do you think you need it? what are you trying to achieve with it? get a lap time that will make you a "driving god" down the pub?[/quote]

firstly, i dont go to the pub i aint a driving god, never will be, and i want something thats got some sort of power, as i have never driven small engined cars ( first car was a 535i sport after numerous vans etc.) ( aside RST's). and i dont wanna break the cossie or bend the Focus RS.

after going in Jim G's M3 last year, i thought of one, but cannot justify that money to bend it.

did think of building a 335i (e30 with 5/735i engine) but aint really got the time.
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power on the 'ring will get you into trouble a whole lot quicker than it will get you out of trouble

as a beginner there, go in something slower and concentrate on trying to learn it (and not just the 'racing line' but the way traffic there can work, weather, etc). try and do all that when you are going fast and you'll struggle
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