omg...just bought a Merc..pic page 3!
19-10-2007 | 08:58 AM
#42
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
From: Between Slough and Maidenhead
Awesome cars, and you can take the traction control off fully. My mate works for Merc and was saying you can put them into rolling rd mode which fully turns it off apparantly.
19-10-2007 | 09:13 AM
#44
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
From: Between Slough and Maidenhead
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Yes, but only whilst connected up to their diagnostic computer, NOT by pressing buttons on the dash 
.
.
19-10-2007 | 09:16 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
heres how it works :
How to Enable Dyno Mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.
If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometerall electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off.
have fun phil
How to Enable Dyno Mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.
If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometerall electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off.
have fun phil
19-10-2007 | 09:19 AM
#48
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
From: Between Slough and Maidenhead
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Well there must be some secret code sequence that you have to go through, but it's certainly not listed in the owners manual.... 
.
.Yep, he got taught it on one of the courses he went on with Merc . They even said theres no real reason for them to be taught how do it, as theyd' never need to turn it off. But showed them any way.
19-10-2007 | 09:28 AM
#49
Testing the future
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,597
Likes: 24
From: W. Sussex
EsCosRacer good info
can you tell me where you got it from please, as we are always testing cars with ESP on our dyno and need to switch off the ESP but usually do it by disconnecting the ABS module which can throw up a fault that doesn't aways get reset
can you tell me where you got it from please, as we are always testing cars with ESP on our dyno and need to switch off the ESP but usually do it by disconnecting the ABS module which can throw up a fault that doesn't aways get reset
19-10-2007 | 09:30 AM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
google search my friend and then came a link to this :
http://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-gen...dyno-mode.html
for the SLK though, so i dont know if it'll work for the E aswell.....for phil to try
http://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-gen...dyno-mode.html
for the SLK though, so i dont know if it'll work for the E aswell.....for phil to try
19-10-2007 | 10:37 AM
#52
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Cool cars, very quick in a straight line 
If im correct then your talking complete and utter bollocks " as usuall"
Have you ever driven one ??
Oh, and if i am wrong and have just jumped the gun then ,,well im not sorry
Yes ive driven one, and you're kind of correct in reading between the lines, I wouldnt go as far as to say "it doesnt go round corners" as they arent actually that bad consiering the size of them but if you stack it up against other performance cars for similar money, its more competitive against them in a straight line than it is through the bends, porche 911turbo for example, the merc will keep with them in a straight line but wouldnt touch one on the bends.
Cool car, just not intended for trackdays etc, far more about straight line performance which it does very well
19-10-2007 | 02:33 PM
#56
Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
heres how it works :
How to Enable Dyno Mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.
If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometerall electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off.
have fun phil
How to Enable Dyno Mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.
If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometerall electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off.
have fun phil
I think you've killed the cunt, he aint been back....
19-10-2007 | 02:47 PM
#57
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,463
Likes: 1
From: Scotland,Edinburgh
very cool car phil get some pics up
and chip comparing it to a 911 can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it
get some pics up and chip comparing it to a 911
can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it
19-10-2007 | 02:53 PM
#59
Originally Posted by Daviet
very cool car phil get some pics up
and chip comparing it to a 911 can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it
get some pics up and chip comparing it to a 911
can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it Cracking cars, would possibly have one myself if I could afford it, which at 1,000 miles or so a week currently I definately cant.
Want slagging it off at all, as I think its a great choice of car
19-10-2007 | 03:16 PM
#62
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Daviet
very cool car phil get some pics up
and chip comparing it to a 911 can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it
get some pics up and chip comparing it to a 911
can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it Cracking cars, would possibly have one myself if I could afford it, which at 1,000 miles or so a week currently I definately cant.
Want slagging it off at all, as I think its a great choice of car
And when i drove a brand new one that a friend bought i would say it will hold its own against just about anything in its price range
19-10-2007 | 03:23 PM
#63
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Daviet
very cool car phil get some pics up
and chip comparing it to a 911 can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it
get some pics up and chip comparing it to a 911
can you go round the ring 5 up in a 911?? totally different cars imo.maybe compare agains simalar cars like m5s or audi rs's and theres probably not much in it Cracking cars, would possibly have one myself if I could afford it, which at 1,000 miles or so a week currently I definately cant.
Want slagging it off at all, as I think its a great choice of car
And when i drove a brand new one that a friend bought i would say it will hold its own against just about anything in its price range
"They dont corner very well" I posted about the cars best feature, its straight line speed, I was looking at it from a totally positive angle.
Just goes to show how shit the internet is at communication (or what a tool you are) if you read it totally the opposite way!
As ive said a few times in this thread, I really like them, I cant really think of a better motorway muncher in fact, especially after coming back from the ring this weekend in a SL55 with the same engine, its just perfect for that sort of use.
19-10-2007 | 03:32 PM
#64
Chip
you talk SHIT , you were saying it didnt go round corners and now because i have pulled you up on it your trying to twist it like you always do when somone has a go back at you
And if you want to call me a tool wait till your next stood in front of me before you say it
Now run along and find yet another post to show how good you are
you talk SHIT , you were saying it didnt go round corners and now because i have pulled you up on it your trying to twist it like you always do when somone has a go back at you
And if you want to call me a tool wait till your next stood in front of me before you say it
Now run along and find yet another post to show how good you are
19-10-2007 | 04:07 PM
#65
North Yorks, If you dont want to be thought of as a tool then dont act like one by putting words into other peoples mouths.
Im a big fan of those Mercs as it happens, so ive no idea why you are so determined to try and present me as otherwise when ive said no such thing.
I like them a lot but Im not going to post that its some awesome handling pin sharp sports car just cause thats what you want to hear, its not at all, its basically a big luxury cruiser, a very fucking fast one that manages to get round corners fairly well despite its size etc, but the only thing they are truely great at is straight line speed (200+ potentially in fact like Phil mentions) so thats what I posted as its the truth.
Im a big fan of those Mercs as it happens, so ive no idea why you are so determined to try and present me as otherwise when ive said no such thing.
I like them a lot but Im not going to post that its some awesome handling pin sharp sports car just cause thats what you want to hear, its not at all, its basically a big luxury cruiser, a very fucking fast one that manages to get round corners fairly well despite its size etc, but the only thing they are truely great at is straight line speed (200+ potentially in fact like Phil mentions) so thats what I posted as its the truth.
19-10-2007 | 04:21 PM
#66
Happily retired
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,707
Likes: 237
From: Hampshire
Re: omg...just bought a Merc
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
....Rod this is a 200mph PRODUCTION car mate
Not at Brunters it aint even a 700bhp one only managed 191 there, compared to mine its like a slug on Diazapan.
19-10-2007 | 04:23 PM
#67
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
North Yorks, If you dont want to be thought of as a tool then dont act like one by putting words into other peoples mouths.
Im a big fan of those Mercs as it happens, so ive no idea why you are so determined to try and present me as otherwise when ive said no such thing.
I like them a lot but Im not going to post that its some awesome handling pin sharp sports car just cause thats what you want to hear, its not at all, its basically a big luxury cruiser, a very fucking fast one that manages to get round corners fairly well despite its size etc, but the only thing they are truely great at is straight line speed (200+ potentially in fact like Phil mentions) so thats what I posted as its the truth.
Im a big fan of those Mercs as it happens, so ive no idea why you are so determined to try and present me as otherwise when ive said no such thing.
I like them a lot but Im not going to post that its some awesome handling pin sharp sports car just cause thats what you want to hear, its not at all, its basically a big luxury cruiser, a very fucking fast one that manages to get round corners fairly well despite its size etc, but the only thing they are truely great at is straight line speed (200+ potentially in fact like Phil mentions) so thats what I posted as its the truth.
Im not a tool ,,or a person who hasnt even got the balls to stand and defend what he said rather than twist it
you constantly have diggs at people and there cars on here and try to show just how much you know and how good you are and to be honest there is no wonder that people may take what you say the wrong way
Anyway , I must dash as im going out for my tea now as i have other things to do that chat with certain fools on here
Reply as you wish ,,I dont give a shit
19-10-2007 | 04:37 PM
#69
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,744
Likes: 0
From: Exeter
Re: omg...just bought a Merc
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..amg e55 kompressor...500bhp 
..books state 476bhp but thats only because the SL55 amg cost 100k has the same engine so for the lessor model merc had to say less bhp!!!!!.Same torque.
..damn its FAST .oh and the active seats ..when you corner so you dont fall out the seat whichever side blows up ..not to mention the massageing
..i dont wish to brag but this is brutal..oh and it has 8 pot front brakes and 380mm discs
....Rod this is a 200mph PRODUCTION car mate
..books state 476bhp but thats only because the SL55 amg cost 100k has the same engine so for the lessor model merc had to say less bhp!!!!!.Same torque...damn its FAST
.oh and the active seats ..when you corner so you dont fall out the seat whichever side blows up ..not to mention the massageing ..i dont wish to brag but this is brutal..oh and it has 8 pot front brakes and 380mm discs
....Rod this is a 200mph PRODUCTION car mate
JJ
19-10-2007 | 04:49 PM
#70
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,744
Likes: 0
From: Exeter
To add, my friend with his AMG55 SL very kindly allowed me to take her for a run round the Ring a couple of times. His benefits from a slight tickly in the engine department, bringing the power up to about 580 odd BHP.
Of all the things mentioned, I would observe that it actually holds its own in the bends very well against all but the likes of the porsches. I was mega impressed with this more than anything else.
As far as the TC is concerned - unless it has the AMG optional LSD, I dont see the point in fully disengaging it, as the car relies on the electronics to compensate for the lack of LSDs - so if Mercs elecs do the job so well, and the mechanical bits aint there - what would be the point? genuine question.
I was well impressed with the SL, which allowed me to post a sub 9 minute BTG with absolutely no effort at all, and that dont happen in a car that dont go round bends!
JJ
Of all the things mentioned, I would observe that it actually holds its own in the bends very well against all but the likes of the porsches. I was mega impressed with this more than anything else.
As far as the TC is concerned - unless it has the AMG optional LSD, I dont see the point in fully disengaging it, as the car relies on the electronics to compensate for the lack of LSDs - so if Mercs elecs do the job so well, and the mechanical bits aint there - what would be the point? genuine question.
I was well impressed with the SL, which allowed me to post a sub 9 minute BTG with absolutely no effort at all, and that dont happen in a car that dont go round bends!
JJ
19-10-2007 | 04:50 PM
#71
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Chip
Im not a tool ,,or a person who hasnt even got the balls to stand and defend what he said rather than twist it
Im not a tool ,,or a person who hasnt even got the balls to stand and defend what he said rather than twist it
Seriously, you are now saying I should defend something that you thought I might have meant, but as I never actually said it in the first place why the fuck would I feel the need to defend it
All I said before you started trying to make things up you thought I also meant was:
"Cool cars, very quick in a straight line"
The whole reason being I was looking at the BEST aspect of the car, not looking for the worst like you are trying to twist it into. (ironic that its you accusing me of twisting things
)If he bought an Elise I would have said
"Fun cars, very quick through the twisties" or similar
As thats the best thing about those cars, I wouldnt have bothered commenting about their lack of top speed performance as that isnt what they are about, and so likewise I didnt comment on the Merc's inability to match an elise though corners as thats not what people buy those Mercs for either, they buy them for the straight line grunt and comfort.
So of course im not going to try and defend what the voices in your head told you I really meant but didnt actually say
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
you constantly have diggs at people and there cars on here and try to show just how much you know and how good you are and to be honest there is no wonder that people may take what you say the wrong way
19-10-2007 | 04:55 PM
#72
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
To add, my friend with his AMG55 SL very kindly allowed me to take her for a run round the Ring a couple of times. His benefits from a slight tickly in the engine department, bringing the power up to about 580 odd BHP.
Of all the things mentioned, I would observe that it actually holds its own in the bends very well against all comers but the likes of the porsches. I was mega impressed with this more than anything else.
As far as the TC is concerned - unless it has the AMG optional LSD, I dont see the point in fully disengaging it, as the car relies on the electronics to compensate for the lack of LSDs - so if Mercs elecs do the job so well, and the mechanical bits aint there - what would be the point? genuine question.
I was well impressed with the SL, which allowed me to post a sub 9 minute BTG with absolutely no effort at all, and that dont happen in a car that dont go round bends!
JJ
Of all the things mentioned, I would observe that it actually holds its own in the bends very well against all comers but the likes of the porsches. I was mega impressed with this more than anything else.
As far as the TC is concerned - unless it has the AMG optional LSD, I dont see the point in fully disengaging it, as the car relies on the electronics to compensate for the lack of LSDs - so if Mercs elecs do the job so well, and the mechanical bits aint there - what would be the point? genuine question.
I was well impressed with the SL, which allowed me to post a sub 9 minute BTG with absolutely no effort at all, and that dont happen in a car that dont go round bends!
JJ
JJ, before you wax lyrical about the handling of the SL for too long, you are aware that its not actually one of those that Phil has bought?
But instead its an E55 AMG which is a different (although related of course) chassis?
19-10-2007 | 04:59 PM
#74
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Astonishingly, I can still read, yes chip ! ROFOL
Even so, the two cars share enough for the comparison to be relevant.
JJ
Even so, the two cars share enough for the comparison to be relevant.
JJ
19-10-2007 | 05:01 PM
#75
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,744
Likes: 0
From: Exeter
LOL
Agree with that - Not that you want to get into it of course, but if you did, the below would probably emphasise your assessment.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg..._v_bmw_m5.html
JJ
Agree with that - Not that you want to get into it of course, but if you did, the below would probably emphasise your assessment.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg..._v_bmw_m5.html
JJ
19-10-2007 | 05:04 PM
#76
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by jungleistmassiv
Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
heres how it works :
How to Enable Dyno Mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.
If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometerall electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off.
have fun phil
How to Enable Dyno Mode
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.
If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometerall electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off.
have fun phil
I think you've killed the cunt, he aint been back....
hopefully i havent
19-10-2007 | 05:08 PM
#77
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
LOL
Agree with that - Not that you want to get into it of course, but if you did, the below would probably emphasise your assessment.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg..._v_bmw_m5.html
JJ
Agree with that - Not that you want to get into it of course, but if you did, the below would probably emphasise your assessment.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg..._v_bmw_m5.html
JJ
Mate, dont mention that, Paul got upset enough just at the hint that the merc was better in a straight line than round corners, if he reads that review he is likely to end up in tears
19-10-2007 | 05:22 PM
#80
20K+ Super Poster.
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 0
From: Local, when i'm home...
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..wow its awesome...still trying to learn all the settings 
...its a very advanced car!
..anyway just a quick picture...
...its a very advanced car! ..anyway just a quick picture...
That is a lovey car Phil, I like them in silver, nice one mate!