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Old 12-10-2007, 06:27 PM
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Had the ally pipe welded up, went to start it this morning and nothing , check EVERYTHING and still NOTHING

Done a compression test,

160psi on Cyl 1
156psi on Cyl 2
156psi on Cyl 3
160psi on Cyl 4


Take a wonder down to TOTD to see Chris Todd, and he reckons its the plugs and sorts me a set out , So I wonder back, take plugs out and there soaking - put new ones in, fire up and hey-presto! sorted, Cheers .. all's good, so now its running I gotta fit the new radiator

But heres the prob, fitted rad, bled water and let fans come on, checked all hoses to make sure they was hot, went for a drive and with in 15 minutes of steady driving (didn't go over 50mph) the temp went skyrocket

checked for signs of the head gasket going and none showing thats the prob


Limping home at 10/15mph smoke is pissing out the exhaust and a strong smell of oil, compressions fine so it cant be rings? no leaks either of water or oil

Im stumped

Water temp after 15/20 minutes





Oil Temp/Oil Pressure/Boost, again after 15/20 minutes






Old 12-10-2007, 06:29 PM
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Was the fan cutting in?
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Was the fan cutting in?
yes mate
Old 12-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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When it's running, did you check all the water pipes and make sure there's water going round the whole system mate?

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Old 12-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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Not having a dig or anything, but did you continue to drive it up to those temps?? I would have thought pulling over BEFORE it hit the red would have been the way to play it
Old 12-10-2007, 06:32 PM
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pmsl at your ever changing sig!!

have you checked the turbo shaft for play? ( could be causing the smoke if it's goosed)

compression test results seem very good.

hope you get it sorted, they are ace cars when they are working sweet.....don't let it piss you off too much
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Paddy all pipe are hot paddy

Mr Whippy nope it got to them temps just like that, they was at half way then just went up! I pulled over at a mates as I was passing and let it cooled down

bud-weis No play in the turbo, checked that today too
Old 12-10-2007, 06:39 PM
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seems very weird..

i don't really know much about them tbh

is the water actually getting as hot as the gauge suggests? will it get that hot if you just leave it idling for a long time, or only when driven?
Old 12-10-2007, 06:39 PM
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Is it a Renault in disguise???

Old 12-10-2007, 06:40 PM
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Have you had a leakdown test done though......compression may be good but doesn't mean to say it will hold it.
Old 12-10-2007, 06:42 PM
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the more i think the more it sounds like a cracked block or head

when you say the plugs were soaked...did you mean with fuel? or water?
Old 12-10-2007, 06:44 PM
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Shouldn't make as much difference as getting THAT hot, but you did put antifreeze back in?

Sounds like there's maybe a bit of a blockage somewhere? Is the radiator brand new?

Worst way as said above, the head

Fucking annoying for you mate, been seeing you've been having niggles with it.

Got to agree as said above though, I've had a couple of these now and they are awesome fun to drive and in my experience pretty fucking bomb proof except for the clutch issues [which is nothing considering what you get for your money and *touch wood* I've never personally had a problem with one].
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Is it actually that hot? I presume the gauge itself is working fine?

Are you losing any water?
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First thing i did say to Radders when he rang me and told me the water pump was gone, was that the headgasket would probably be close behind.

Realistically, its going to be head gasket/head cracked/block cracked.

I just hope its gasket........and they're about Ł34 for a replacement gasket as Cookie just put a Genuine Nissan one on his Silvia
Old 12-10-2007, 06:56 PM
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Shit, not looking good m8.

Hope you get it fixed soon...
Old 12-10-2007, 07:01 PM
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when did you do the waterpump?the fanbelt was squeeling its head off at totd rr day
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
seems very weird..

i don't really know much about them tbh

is the water actually getting as hot as the gauge suggests? will it get that hot if you just leave it idling for a long time, or only when driven?

Only when driven...



Originally Posted by bud-weis
the more i think the more it sounds like a cracked block or head

when you say the plugs were soaked...did you mean with fuel? or water?
Fuel



Originally Posted by RichardPON
Is it actually that hot? I presume the gauge itself is working fine?

Are you losing any water?
Gauge seems to be fine

No water loss either



Originally Posted by SafeChav
Realistically, its going to be head gasket/head cracked/block cracked.
I reckon


Originally Posted by lloyd
when did you do the waterpump?the fanbelt was squeeling its head off at totd rr day
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:07 PM
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Radders radders radders......


You're going to need a long rag, soak it in petrol and a match....


Either that or sell it
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You should of bought my 4i

Sorry to read about your continuing problems

Steve.
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Originally Posted by Rab
Radders radders radders......


You're going to need a long rag, soak it in petrol and a match....
What with fireworks night coming up, I can see a rocket accidently flying threw its fucking window
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So much for Japanese reliability
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You sure you got the proper water pump for it & it wasnt for a 1.4 Sunny!!!!

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is it getting to hot and then going into limp home mode?
or is it getting too hot and then going into being fucked and won't drive properly home mode?

and what is coming out of the exhaust?

if it's not losing water then it mustbe something else
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Originally Posted by dojj
is it getting to hot and then going into limp home mode?
or is it getting too hot and then going into being fucked and won't drive properly home mode?

and what is coming out of the exhaust?

if it's not losing water then it mustbe something else

Car drives fine! It was only me limping it home due to the temp

Blue smoke out the exhaust

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oops, oil then

is it using much?
Old 12-10-2007, 07:25 PM
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Funny this, as on the whole properly mapped Pulsars are dead good and no bother.

But theres always exceptions!

I never get 4wd cars cause of transmission worries, but thats not been your prob so cant even say "shouldve bought a RWD"
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radders mate get it to chris todd, you need a pro eye to look at it.

it could be many things head gasket, turbo and being jap some funny water feed causing odd water temps.

what ever its going to be a tricky one to find
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
radders mate get it to chris todd, you need a pro eye to look at it.
Been and see Chris today, Could take it down tomorrow, but there karting from 11, so no point..

Will drop it down Monday and leave it there If I can, I can see this raping my wallet big time
Old 12-10-2007, 07:44 PM
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Was the water system bled properly as per the maunal?

When filling, set heater control to max hot, remove bleed screw on the thermostat housing, fill radiator until water runs out of the bleed screw with no bubbles, then replace the bleed screw and fill up the radiator and coolant reservoir to max. Now you need to modify the rad cap by putting a piece of wire or similar between the rubber and the metal centre bit.(it lets the air bleed out into the overflow tank) Fit it to the radiator. Start the engine warm it up and run it a 2500rpm for 10secs, turn off, fill up the radiator. Repeat 3 times. Remove wire from rad cap and refit it as standard item. Run engine at 4000rpm and move heater control to a few positions between hot and cold , then check level again. (rad will be pressurised this time, so let it cool down or cover the rad cap well)
Have you tried a new thermostat? (might be worth trying to run without it for a few mins to see if it makes a difference)

Is the water level holding? If you're having to fill it up, I'd suspect a leak on one of the rubber water hoses on the back of the engine.

If they're OK, then I'd have to suspect something with the water pump (even tho it's new) or maybe a blockage in the system somewhere.


Also may be worth posting on the Gtir forum to see if there's any other suggestions.
Old 12-10-2007, 07:53 PM
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Does the themrostat fail open like fords (too cold) or fail closed (too hot) like a BMW?
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not good Rad.

blue oil is deffo oil buring,it must be using a bit of oil.

can you run it without the thermostat in it to see how it is then.

hope its not going to cost you too much to sort.
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The water flows from the head into rad and then into the thermostat. If it's closed you won't get flow through the thermostat and therefore nothing through the rad. (thats my understanding anyway)
Old 12-10-2007, 08:02 PM
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Did you check properly for air locks in the cooling system?
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Deffo worth a try without the T'stat, how does it rise in temp? Will it just shoot up in a fwe seconds, or steadily rise? Does it get hot if its on boost, or just pootling round?
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Obviously if you run it without a stat don't completely remove the stat as thats a very very very bad thing to do, you want an old stat you can cut it up and refit the main body to the housing.
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taken the stat out chaps, and drove without it


bled it as good as possible with two mates (ex owner)



why would it burn oil
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I'm afraid to say this sounds just like my old saff that had a cracked block... . Personally I would rip the head off and see what the score is, save any more fucking around ..... Get it pressure checked and inspect the block as best you can while its still in the car ...


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