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Old 12-10-2007, 08:15 PM
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can only burn oil either in the pots or loose it from the turbo.
Old 12-10-2007, 08:28 PM
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No play in the turbo, and the compression is fine...


Will see what comes of it Monday
Old 12-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
No play in the turbo, and the compression is fine...


Will see what comes of it Monday
thats the puzzling bit.
Old 12-10-2007, 08:46 PM
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If for some reason say it is the turbo, and thats buring oil.. would it make the block hotter and make the water temps go as high as they have been?
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have you checked compression when hot?

also sounds like a cracked block to me sadly hope it isn't buddy
Old 12-10-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
If for some reason say it is the turbo, and thats buring oil.. would it make the block hotter and make the water temps go as high as they have been?
cannot see the water from the turbo getting that hot thats it makes the engine boil.

does it get hot even with no boost....
Old 12-10-2007, 08:59 PM
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fucking hell mate, your not having much like with that car, hope it gets sorted asap!
Old 12-10-2007, 09:16 PM
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Weird thing is if there's no comp loss or signs of headgasket gone then it really sounds like a water circulation problem to me.

But then..

What is also worth thinking about is that this happened a while back before you changed the pump, yes?

hmm, weird it gets that hot soo fast though if it was a cracked head or block?? I've had a cracked head before and it wasn't like that and gave headgasket type faliure syptoms. I'd be pretty suprise dif the block was cracked and you still got those decent compression readings..

It's almost like something happened a while back like some freak water blockage somewhere. What was the scenario when it 1st got hot, ie before you changed the water pump? thrashing it or anything?
Old 12-10-2007, 09:21 PM
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bummer
ive had a blocked radiator once
in a rst, did the same sort of thingish,
hot hot hot and drove shat
any chance you could try another rad
without buying one.

chin up
chip
Old 12-10-2007, 09:25 PM
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chip RS New rad fitted read the first post from me...

jameswrx thr car hasnt been properly thrashed tbh..
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
Weird thing is if there's no comp loss or signs of headgasket gone then it really sounds like a water circulation problem to me.

But then..

What is also worth thinking about is that this happened a while back before you changed the pump, yes?

hmm, weird it gets that hot soo fast though if it was a cracked head or block?? I've had a cracked head before and it wasn't like that and gave headgasket type faliure syptoms. I'd be pretty suprise dif the block was cracked and you still got those decent compression readings..

It's almost like something happened a while back like some freak water blockage somewhere. What was the scenario when it 1st got hot, ie before you changed the water pump? thrashing it or anything?

buy what about the blue smoke out of the back.

is it a bit or lots of smoke Rad.

a bit may be ok,a little bit of wear in the engine/turbo etc...but if there is loads coming out then thats something else.
Old 12-10-2007, 09:30 PM
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Loads of smoke Dave, I was sat at a set of lights, pulled off and with in seconds plumes of smokes PISSING from the back end of my car


So glad I don't have that side exit fitted yet
Old 12-10-2007, 09:35 PM
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and the turbo is not fooked.

compression is good.

would the valve stem seals be that fooked that they could be leaking oil in.

how else would oil get inside the engine if the rings are ok.
Old 12-10-2007, 09:36 PM
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not good,

is the rad brand new?
or new secondhand

no loss of water is bothering me

chip
Old 12-10-2007, 09:37 PM
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dave cos4x4 Beyond me mate, really is


chip RS 2nd hand, but in proper good condition
Old 12-10-2007, 09:55 PM
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When you refilled the water system did you do it cold? It needs to be done cold and on an incline (aparantly).. park on incline, in car heater to max temp, remove bleed screw on thermostat housing, fill radiator until a steady stream of water flows out of thermo housing. Chuck bits back on and fast idle it at 2,5k for a while.

From reading on gtroc it seems very important to do the bleed cold and on incline making sure a nice flow comes out the bleed hole. Read a couple of posts and one guy picked up some air from split hose repaired and refilled and was getting temps off the gauge like you, the bleed above sorted it.

It may also be the case that you have picked up some air for an air lock in the first place for it to all start. There are some water pipes round the back of the block below the plenum that are a cunt to get to that can split.
Old 12-10-2007, 09:57 PM
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Got any links mate please?
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:00 PM
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what about the smoke though.
Old 12-10-2007, 10:01 PM
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http://www.nissangtir.co.uk/forum/default.asp

http://www.gtiroc.com/
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Oil leaks??
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
what about the smoke though.
He must of dropped an ounce in the petrol tank by mistake!!!

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Originally Posted by Lee_R21Turbo
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
what about the smoke though.
He must of dropped an ounce in the petrol tank by mistake!!!

I never carry ounce's on me
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this one says bout split hose, repair, then refil and temp off gauge, 2nd page explains bleed and then the guy has success.

http://www.gtiroc.com/forums/showthr...ht=overheating
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by Lee_R21Turbo
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
what about the smoke though.
He must of dropped an ounce in the petrol tank by mistake!!!

I never carry ounce's on me
...exactly....its in the fuckin tank thats why!!!

Old 12-10-2007, 10:09 PM
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Rad nothing to do with the problem Chris had last year with it? think at bedford day he had a problem something to do with oil. cant remember what is was or was done to it? but i remember there being a bit of oil everywhere in the bay due to something that needed doing?
Old 12-10-2007, 10:11 PM
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Not spoke to him really, about the oil buring, will do though
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another one, basically showing how tricky they can be to bleed.

http://www.gtiroc.com/forums/showthr...ht=bleed+water
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jameswrx

Thanks for the links mate
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Oi nubnuts you haven't stated if your leaking oil or not, then it may rule out a cracked block
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Originally Posted by RSrussell
Oi nubnuts you haven't stated if your leaking oil or not, then it may rule out a cracked block
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Limping home at 10/15mph smoke is pissing out the exhaust and a strong smell of oil, compressions fine so it cant be rings? no leaks either of water or oil

Do people not read the whole thread before they ask questions?


Numb Nuts
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ok then but it could still be cracked internally
Old 12-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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i think just because youve got good compression doesnt mean ur oil rings are ok. the overheating could of fooked ur lower ring the oil ring hence burning oil but compression ring still ok. just a thought
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Do people not read the whole thread before they ask questions?
hows the car running?
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Originally Posted by JapsEyeRadders
WTF is wrong with my Pulsar
.....I'd hazard a guess at the driver!!!!

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Old 12-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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But, I thought Jap cars were reliable and 'shonky old Fords' were unreliable according to most on here...............

Get it sorted Rad
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Originally Posted by Diamonds
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Do people not read the whole thread before they ask questions?
hows the car running?
Because if there like me its taken 20mins
So far im with the Long rag and a lighter i keep telling my m8 that with his frst things always braking / going wrong

Hope you sort it and it dont cost to much
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told you it was jap crap


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