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Old 20-11-2004 | 11:59 AM
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this is doin my head in now

its not the exhaust and its not the gearbox mount

BTTT for any more ideas

maybe prop related? maybe diff related?

does anyone on here recon they can diagnose and sort it if they see the car? i dont wanna book it into a different garage only for them to be stumped aswell
Old 20-11-2004 | 12:24 PM
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Bring it up for a test drive
We don't charge for this service, and I have been making diagnosises like this all my life!
Old 20-11-2004 | 12:26 PM
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bernie can ya sort my crunchy 4th gear for me FOC please, oh and it also pops back out of 2nd when ya aproach roundabouts ( so i try t avoid driving in milton keynes if i can )


on a serious note what is the problem and whats it gonna cost me to get fixed
Old 20-11-2004 | 12:29 PM
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on a serious note what is the problem and whats it gonna cost me to get fixed
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Old 20-11-2004 | 12:32 PM
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Old 20-11-2004 | 04:36 PM
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bernie, when are you free? lol

im working all week and i'm at MSD next sat tho... lol
Old 20-03-2005 | 10:55 PM
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ok this has been going on a LOOOONG time now

i'm pretty sure its coming from the tranny tunnel area

had a feel under there today, onlything i can notice that is out of place is the headshielding/soundproofing... the driverside is all ripped off, only got some on the passengerside, but its dangiling loose all over the gearbox/prop. recon it could be related?

its also worth noting that a week after the problem started, some of this headshielding fell onto the exhaust and started burning. it seems like a bit of a coincidence that this wouldhave happened just after this problem arose

please help with more ideas

ps we've eliminated:

suspension
TCAs
Steering Arms
Rear Beam etc.
Wheel Bearings (i think)
Front Bushes
Exhaust
Diff
Tracking
Tyres Rubbing
Old 21-03-2005 | 09:06 AM
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jim its deffo on the passenger side mate !!!!, when henchos on here finishes his pit then im sure he will find the problem for ya as he needs nitrous help

hes fooking good too
Old 26-03-2005 | 11:02 AM
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The Proper shims available for the de-cambering of sierra and Escorts have a maximum effect of 3 degrees , anymore and the ring around the outer drive flange that controls the abs starts to touch the top edge of the swinging arm , maybe this is happening to you . Its very difficult to see or feel unless it touches all the time , a small amount of movement in the bearing may be just enough to "rub " as the car heels over .
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Old 26-03-2005 | 01:08 PM
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bernie, i cant find any evidence of anything rubbing
Old 28-03-2005 | 09:43 PM
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ok, another opionion given lastnite:

coming from FRONT LEFT and deffo something that moves touching something (ie a wheel or other spinny thing)

no evidence of the tyre catching the wheelarch tho
Old 28-03-2005 | 09:58 PM
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Jim have you checked the clearance between the tyre/wheel and the coil over? Or the tyre catching on the front bumper??
Old 28-03-2005 | 10:05 PM
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Yeah, I checked that last night.

Can't check the rears as it's too low to put your hand between the arch and tyre, BUT, I think it's coming front left.

Would like to see it in daylight though Jim
Old 29-03-2005 | 04:57 PM
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also i'd like to add... this also happened on the old suspension, which was std non-coilover stuff
Old 29-03-2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
Wheel Bearings (i think)
how have you eliminated the wheel bearings? as i would have put my money on them from the symptoms you have described


...................unless i am being think and missed something glaringly obvoius in this thread
Old 29-03-2005 | 05:23 PM
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I know from experience that it's very difficult to spot on the wheelarch liner where a tyre has been rubbing. Even after taking both front liners out, it was still hard to make out where the contact was - but it was the solution to my problem. My suggestion - take out your front left liner and see if the noise disappears (only a few screws with the wheel off, nothing more).
Old 30-03-2005 | 06:11 AM
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I'll bet its the brake disc rubbing on the caliper carrier. Do you get more brake pedal travel after cornering?

Seems like you've eliminated pretty much everything else!

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Old 30-03-2005 | 06:39 AM
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inner liners i think .....
Old 30-03-2005 | 04:08 PM
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eagle, deffo not inner liners

neil, not abad thought...

i've had new pads fitted since with zero difference, but would you expect this to be irrelevant? also if it is this any ideas how i would diagnose or fix?

oh, and i assume you mean fronts yeah?
Old 30-03-2005 | 08:22 PM
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Jim - What front hubs are you using? (out of interest)

Right, imagine there is play in the wheelbearing. The disc would be allowed to move in and out. This would push the piston back into the brake caliper when you corner hard. The next time you apply the brake, the pedal should travel more.

I've had this twice:

Once on my old S2 (The hub drive flange had shattered - all that was holding it together was the bearing races), there was no detecatble play at the roadwheel - I had to strip it down to find the problem.

The other time was on my cossie - The hub nut came loose, and it had the same symptoms as I describe above, only this time spotting it was esy cos the wheel wobbled like a bastard

Both could have been nasty lol

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reminds me.,,,,,,,,,,,,,must change that wheel bearing of mine


as now when i close the window i cant still hear it
Old 31-03-2005 | 07:14 PM
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ok i just did the following to test:

driving @ about 5mph turning left...

little grinding (normal)

driving @ about 5mph turning left whilst left foot braking

LOTS OF GRINDING

has to be brakes related then! as its the only spinny thing that hasn't been examined!!!!


ps i use standard sierra 2wd hubs (non-cossie) and 4x4 cosworth calipers/pads (i assume 4x4 cos discs, but ive never checked)

i will examine the front brakes on saturday whilst we're playing with the rear suspension

i SOOOOOOOO HOPE THIS IS IT
Old 31-03-2005 | 07:18 PM
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Sounds promising Jimbo. Hope you suss it as I know it's been driving you mad for a while now.
Old 31-03-2005 | 09:32 PM
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sounds just like the same problem i have but goes away when im braking
Old 01-04-2005 | 11:06 AM
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booked into SCC tomorrow for a look
Old 02-04-2005 | 04:15 PM
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well...

ok, 2wd discs and 4x4 calipers... now we all know what problems that causes





so after a bit of this...



now has clearance


STILL FOOKIN GRINDS THO

and now i've got a knocking under braking coming from the front right wheel

ive fuckin had it now SOMEONE SELL ME A 2wd COSSIE ARB, HUBS, TCAs, BRAKES so i can replace the whole fookin front end setup

ps whilst invesitigating earlier i also touched the dics...

i now have a few layers of skin missing on my finger

oh and also my heater matrix SHIT IT on the way home, so big puddle in footwell now

roll on central day eh?
Old 02-04-2005 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally

so after a bit of this...



now has clearance


When was this pic taken then........ i'd have smiled if i'd have known....
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Jim,

Pull the two hoses off the matrix (Drivers side of bulkhead, in the engine bay) and join em with a bit of metal pipe. At least then you can drive the fucker till you get a new matrix in!

Theyre only about 15 quid from the factors but will take you a few days to get the dash off lol

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Old 03-04-2005 | 09:54 PM
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neil, thats the plan... but one problem...


...there's a huge V6 engine in the way
Old 05-04-2005 | 08:07 AM
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Jim,
I have a pair of 2wd TCAs you can have for Ł10? They're cluttering up my garage . If you want I'll bring them to Central Day?
Old 05-04-2005 | 08:20 AM
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mike, ive arranged to get the brakes wednesday, and the rest friday, and then fitted on saturday :P
Old 13-04-2005 | 06:25 PM
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today the exhaust has been off and on again.

now it happens when sitting still and revving engine.

it all adds up the exhaust vibrating back thru the mounts!


soooo fuckin simple

gonna get the exhaust re-tensioned tomorrow n see if that sorts it
Old 14-04-2005 | 07:42 PM
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ok, took car to exhaust place thismorning, one of the clamps touching gearbox area (think it was touching cradle) looks like it's been "modded" (the clamp) on purpose, so possibly a known problem b4 i got it?

anyway, new clamp and the bloke tried his best to get it out of the way.

now it's a lot better, but not cured.

also the followiung test was carried out...

turning sweeping left... constant grinding

dip clutch

as revs drop its gets quieter and quiter then completely dissapears

got to be the exhaust vibrating them hasn't it!

gonna see about getting a new front section of the exhaust made up that isn't so completely sh*t like mine is!
Old 15-04-2005 | 09:04 AM
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car's currently at the powerflow dealer having a new front section of exhaust made up (everything from manifolds to middlebox)
Old 15-04-2005 | 09:12 AM
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Should sound sweet .
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right, does the griding get worse with the brakes applied?
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I had a grinding sound its was the wheel bearing. there seemed to be no movment, but sounded like there was somthink not right.

took the hub of and the bearing were fooked
Old 15-04-2005 | 09:26 AM
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right, does the griding get worse with the brakes applied?
no, but like i said, i'm not 99% sure its the exhaust now ive had a proper look at it!
Old 15-04-2005 | 09:33 AM
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Have you got the gearbox problem sorted yet jim more importantly
Old 15-04-2005 | 09:57 AM
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rich, yeah lennie and his dad sorted it for me the gear linkage rod thing had SNAPPED

its been welded back together


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