Water temp probs??? UPDATE: Fucked rad? :cry:
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Right, the HG seems to be ok, its not pressurising, theres no creamy oil cap and the waters fine....
For some reason, when driving.. after about 15 minutes, the temps go sky high
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What could be fucked?
There dont seem to be any leaks either at all
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Change thermostat, and if your water pump is working fine, fit a new alloy rad if all else fails. An old rad gets lined with scale internally that cannot be cleaned out which vastly reduces its efficency.
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Originally Posted by MAD EVO 4
Mate you sure you haven't got an air lock some where in the coolant system from changine the water pump ??
thats what I was thinking
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It will be obvious if the cooling circiut is actually flowing correctly by testing the heat of the various hoses with your hand. A blockage or air lock will show up as a much cooler hose when touching each coolant pipe under the bonnet.
If everything appears ok, then with regards to your radiator, change it if it is over 5 years old regardless. Radiators suffer a huge performance reduction over time, regardless of use. There apears to be a chemical reaction that occurs within the coolant system that lines the rad cores reducing its efficency. Obviously this advice is only applicable if you have checked all other possible issues, as a poorly opening thermostat is far more likely.
If everything appears ok, then with regards to your radiator, change it if it is over 5 years old regardless. Radiators suffer a huge performance reduction over time, regardless of use. There apears to be a chemical reaction that occurs within the coolant system that lines the rad cores reducing its efficency. Obviously this advice is only applicable if you have checked all other possible issues, as a poorly opening thermostat is far more likely.
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If the coolant system is okay, then make sure that your engine earthing strap is in good order. When mine went, it led to sky high readings on the cage that were not corroborated by the ECT reading.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Will check it tomorrow JJ, but the waters boiling up in the header tank? would that happen ![Confused](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
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Hmmm - IIRC the correct temp for the coolant is around th 80-90 deg mark depending on various items.
Probably a stupid question, but your fans are cutting in when she gets hot? IF not, then the temp of the coolant in the rad will be low, or the fan circuit could be fucked (either relay or even sender). Check the temp of the coolant at the bottom of the rad.
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Is it actually getting too hot or just you think it is ?
The expansion tank WILL bubble, as it degasses the cooling system, even when it has nor been touched for years there will always be air generated due to cavitation at the water pump.
Just see how you heater is, if nice and hot water is circulating so that rules the pump out.
Feel top and bottom hose, bottom should be much cooler than top, so rad is not blocked.
Now leave idling until fan cuts in, does it cut out again, if so all is fine it is doing what it should.
Define what you mean by sky high ?, you may just have a dodgy gauge.
At the end of the day if it does not overheat in traffic and fan cuts in out it is working ok, leaving you to fix the temp gauge, maybe just the sender ?
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The expansion tank WILL bubble, as it degasses the cooling system, even when it has nor been touched for years there will always be air generated due to cavitation at the water pump.
Just see how you heater is, if nice and hot water is circulating so that rules the pump out.
Feel top and bottom hose, bottom should be much cooler than top, so rad is not blocked.
Now leave idling until fan cuts in, does it cut out again, if so all is fine it is doing what it should.
Define what you mean by sky high ?, you may just have a dodgy gauge.
At the end of the day if it does not overheat in traffic and fan cuts in out it is working ok, leaving you to fix the temp gauge, maybe just the sender ?
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remove the thermostat to rule that out first of all
it's the cheapest and quickest option so most easily checked if you are going to start spannering
then pull the rad out and flush it to see what sort of muck comes out of it
while you are at it, change the sender as they tend to have a habit of being fucked once they've gone beyond a certain heat range
did you do a head gasket sniff test?
it's the cheapest and quickest option so most easily checked if you are going to start spannering
then pull the rad out and flush it to see what sort of muck comes out of it
while you are at it, change the sender as they tend to have a habit of being fucked once they've gone beyond a certain heat range
did you do a head gasket sniff test?
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id say thermostat first then go from there
h/g gasket test a quick way is get a MOT garage to wave the lambda sensor over the headertank and see if the reading goes higher as thats what the techs at ford do
h/g gasket test a quick way is get a MOT garage to wave the lambda sensor over the headertank and see if the reading goes higher as thats what the techs at ford do
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no expansion tank/header on the datsun. pressurised rad. the bottle is just an overflow bottle that will let water out every now and again
p.s its air locked just run the car for 20 or so minutes with the rad cap off topping the rad everynow and again. you can undo a bolt near the thermostat to blead the system (think there is a small yellow square sticker from memory).
run like this till the fans kick in and out a few times, check all hoses are hot.
Job done
p.p.s dont forget to put the rad cap back on
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p.s its air locked just run the car for 20 or so minutes with the rad cap off topping the rad everynow and again. you can undo a bolt near the thermostat to blead the system (think there is a small yellow square sticker from memory).
run like this till the fans kick in and out a few times, check all hoses are hot.
Job done
p.p.s dont forget to put the rad cap back on
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*UPDATE*
Right the cars running, all the hoses are hot... waters bubbling and temp gauge is at half way
the rad is fairly warm all over bar the top right hand corner
Theres no hose going into that part of the radiator so Im guessing its ok?
When I changed the water pump the other day, no shit came pout the Radiator
There is a bleed nipple, So once Im done running this and made sure the waters full, Do I just undo nipple
If yes, how long for, and what should happen
I didnt do this the other day, my mate did and I didnt watch
Thanks
Right the cars running, all the hoses are hot... waters bubbling and temp gauge is at half way
the rad is fairly warm all over bar the top right hand corner
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When I changed the water pump the other day, no shit came pout the Radiator
There is a bleed nipple, So once Im done running this and made sure the waters full, Do I just undo nipple
If yes, how long for, and what should happen
I didnt do this the other day, my mate did and I didnt watch
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Thanks
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Just been for a drive... temp went up again
Gonna let it cool down and take stat out and test it![Confused](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
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Gonna let it cool down and take stat out and test it
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Goodluck with it m8
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Drove the car with the stat out, and it still went up...
I touched the rad in the top left corner (passenger side) and it seems to be cold...
There is a water pipe on the bottom of that half, and the rad is hot on the bottom and all over else where...
Fucked rad?
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I touched the rad in the top left corner (passenger side) and it seems to be cold...
There is a water pipe on the bottom of that half, and the rad is hot on the bottom and all over else where...
Fucked rad?
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check waterpump again first,maybe thats the issue ???
what made you think it failed before,,,,, what was the problem with the car when it started ???
rad is a costly job if that aint it
take rad out and flush it, then take it to a place that recores them to test it
theres a place on my road if you dont know anywhere,, they can presure test ect and see before buying one
what made you think it failed before,,,,, what was the problem with the car when it started ???
rad is a costly job if that aint it
take rad out and flush it, then take it to a place that recores them to test it
theres a place on my road if you dont know anywhere,, they can presure test ect and see before buying one
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