GT30 turbo power
10-10-2007, 08:51 PM
#82
Originally Posted by radiant red
martin-reyland
Can you supply internal waste gate set up GT30's? as i have had a price a couple of months back.
Spoke to AET recently about it, they seem to think they make 500+ on the correctly specced cosworth engine according to there dyno....
Can you supply internal waste gate set up GT30's? as i have had a price a couple of months back.
Spoke to AET recently about it, they seem to think they make 500+ on the correctly specced cosworth engine according to there dyno....
they will just about , the external will make alot more no problem
10-10-2007, 08:58 PM
#83
Originally Posted by Dunccoss
looking at going down this road aswell, what sort off boost do you run and when do you get it come in please, as i would like to have good boost at 3 to 3500 rpm so i get a good hard pull like a t 34 /63 gives at 3500 rpm / 33 psi or would it be better than that
Hi Dunc
my gt30 is pulling hard at 3500 rpm i dont run much boost untill its live maped
ill give you the full S.P once karl ahs mapped it
for every chaseing big bhp on a GT 30 go for external version ,if not go for the internal
simple as robo chef
10-10-2007, 09:47 PM
#89
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youve got the bug now then paul! bet you order manifold wastegate and turbo tomo!lol if anyones interested i got my 44mm tial wastegate and tial bov from speed clinic in america wait for it 250 for the pair delivered in whatever colour. cheap as chips and genuine. getting my motec from them too very good quick service too
10-10-2007, 10:23 PM
#90
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Do external make more torque/better spool up aswell as more power?
What controls the external wastegates? air injectors?
What controls the external wastegates? air injectors?
not sure on spool up time is quicker or not
my car is going on 1000cc injectors/late escort plelume /air injectors with a 12 postion boost controller /5 bar map sensor
see with myself one of the reasons i never went external wastegate was the screamer pipe that put me off , i do alot of track days and there has been a lot of cars that have been blackd flaged for noise because of the screamer pipe
what people have done to keep the noise down they have put a silencer on it or they have brought it into the exhaust system
some people recon when you bring the screamer into the exhaust system it loses a bit of power
i cant really give a full run down of the Gt30 external because i haven't had one
i went the easyway and i am not chasing big bhp either and the GT30 internal waste gate was the one for me
it is more expensive than the external one aswell
marco
10-10-2007, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by miller3
What cams are people using at the moment i have BD14 in and BD10 ex is this OK ?
11-10-2007, 07:25 AM
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well this is interesting.i always thought that people steered clear of the gt range due to being fragile 
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i havent got a bloody clue on these,i know what a t3,t34 etc look like but the other week i was looking at a car that had a "gt28" on it,but it looked the same size etc as a gt30 i looked at on a car at nat day.
whats the difference?or is it all internal or is it the rear housing?
?i havent got a bloody clue on these,i know what a t3,t34 etc look like but the other week i was looking at a car that had a "gt28" on it,but it looked the same size etc as a gt30 i looked at on a car at nat day.
whats the difference?or is it all internal or is it the rear housing?
11-10-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Originally Posted by Porkie
I FUCKING LOVE MY GT30 as well 
or do you really rate it that much better now youve changed to the GT30?
But on a Syncro 5 speed box on a 2litre YB the GT35 is the WRONG turbo....
Its WANK.
THE END.
(Unless you are a Topspeed only knobjocky of course)
The GT30 is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better its silly!
Its just a different car. Powerband is immense, third gear is STUPID on track!!! just leave it in that and drive it like a big go kart!
Ask Doug Stirling about his 4th gear trick on the road!
11-10-2007, 04:20 PM
#97
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Marco have you had yours setup and put on a rolling road yet? if so is there anychance of looking at the graph?
Hi paul
i will most defo , my car is coming out of the body shop at ford
its then going to karl for live mapping , once it's live mapped i will book a rolling road session at noble and see roughtly what power i have got
karls estimation is pretty good
marco
11-10-2007, 04:31 PM
#98
I think it's quite funny how people think that bolting a turbo on a car will be the miracle cure for a poorly specced engine .
My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500
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It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
.My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500
.It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
11-10-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MAD matt-sab
thats what cyrils is running now in the esy cos he had after yours and runs 504 bhp and 500 lbs torque if memory serves me right.
all madevelopments and autronic of course !
not sure of exhaust housing size
but i have driven it lots of times and no turbo surge at all BUT loads of go ! its propper mad !
it feels like its trying to lift the car off the road !
go for it id say !
all madevelopments and autronic of course !
not sure of exhaust housing size
but i have driven it lots of times and no turbo surge at all BUT loads of go ! its propper mad !
it feels like its trying to lift the car off the road !
go for it id say !
but does this now mean they over read 
Mark
11-10-2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I think it's quite funny how people think that bolting a turbo on a car will be the miracle cure for a poorly specced engine .
My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500.
It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
.My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500
.It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
no secret squirrel either please
11-10-2007, 04:48 PM
#101
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500 .
It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
.It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
11-10-2007, 05:07 PM
#103
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I think it's quite funny how people think that bolting a turbo on a car will be the miracle cure for a poorly specced engine .
My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500.
It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
.My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500
.It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
Hi Mike
i know what your saying
, but what i am saying is bolting on a gt30 with internal wastesgate on my engine is 10 times better than the t34 my engine was supposed to be an exact copy of the harvy 400+bhp engine if it is or not ill will never know untill it striped
the only thing that have changed since fitting on the GT30 is the exhaust cam
it still uses the Bd** inlet
cam shhhhhhhhhh i shouldn't have said anything
marco
11-10-2007, 06:35 PM
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11-10-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I think it's quite funny how people think that bolting a turbo on a car will be the miracle cure for a poorly specced engine .
My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500.
It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
.My old T4 engine with a proper spec made 15psi at 3150 rpm and 32psi at 3500
.It's not JUST the turbo, the whole engine has to be matched TOTALLY.
no secret squirrel either please
12-10-2007, 08:55 AM
#108
My old spec was Farndon 82mm crank, standard rods, accralite short compression height 92 mm pistons (2,180cc), 7.54:1 c/r, medium port Nick Waples head, T4 mar-m 247 shafted 57 trim turbo, short duration cams timed in to bring the car on boost as early as possible, which meant that although it made peak power at 7k like a normal T4 engine, it dropped like a stone after that (where normally with long duration cams it would hold on to the power). The capacity would have only made a few hundred rpm difference, the most crucial part of deciding the powerband of a turbo engine is the cam spec / timing.
If you want a FULL detailed spec of my current engine, take a look on page 1 of my resto thread
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If you want a FULL detailed spec of my current engine, take a look on page 1 of my resto thread
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12-10-2007, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
come on then mike, whats your engine spec sump to rocker cover? no secret squirrel either please
no secret squirrel either please 
12-10-2007, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
come on then mike, whats your engine spec sump to rocker cover? no secret squirrel either please
no secret squirrel either please 
sarcy fooker - Ok then, camshaft cover
12-10-2007, 10:49 AM
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Remember a GT30 is not just reliant on the exhaust housing size. There are a number of different sized GT30 wheels as well. I now have the largest GT30 wheel on a .64 housing for my Cosworth Subaru Engine (turbo supplied by AET). Albeit on a 2.5ltr it acheives 525bhp / 525+lbft torque on straight pump fuel, with peak torque at 1.7bar and peak power at 1.6bar boost. With you Cossie boys..... thats pussy boost!
For a bolt on internally wastegated turbo they certainly seem to deliver.
For a bolt on internally wastegated turbo they certainly seem to deliver.
12-10-2007, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fagin
Remember a GT30 is not just reliant on the exhaust housing size. There are a number of different sized GT30 wheels as well. I now have the largest GT30 wheel on a .64 housing for my Cosworth Subaru Engine (turbo supplied by AET). Albeit on a 2.5ltr it acheives 525bhp / 525+lbft torque on straight pump fuel, with peak torque at 1.7bar and peak power at 1.6bar boost. With you Cossie boys..... thats pussy boost!
For a bolt on internally wastegated turbo they certainly seem to deliver.
For a bolt on internally wastegated turbo they certainly seem to deliver.
alot of torque!
12-10-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Dan
12-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Dan
12-10-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
12-10-2007, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
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Yes that's true, well worth having if you want to heat up your area around the air filter..
12-10-2007, 06:14 PM
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If i were you, i should take Martin's spacer. Nice piece of work, and fits like a glove!!
Without, this is the problem.
The compressor housing hits the 2WD exhaust manifold.
Solution:
Without, this is the problem.
The compressor housing hits the 2WD exhaust manifold.
Solution:
12-10-2007, 07:47 PM
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