keithG666

Test done for the 'TIMES' by superchips.....

proves that there was a 1bhp gain over normal unleaded but all other things like torque, etc, etc were exactly the same......

Final statement by them was "it would be fundamentally the same for any engine" and somewhere they say it dosn't matter what state of tune!!!!

their opinion.......that BP and Shell are ripping the BOY RACER off by selling them HIGHER OCTANE fuel, by selling the name and image instead of something that is better than normal........

better stop using it in my nova then!!!!

Max

you put it in the nova

wouldn't that make a full tank worth more than the car

Stavros

i take it they used it on a car mapped to run normal unleaded then?

Sid_RST

I use it everytime, don't think im being ripped off as its only a few pence more...I mean it works out to be the same amount of money we could easily lose in change down the back of our front seats. No problem here, been told to use it by tuner to help stop it going bang at higher speeds.....

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Exactly.. i hope this is a pisstake

Ive had literally HUNDREDS of imports come here for chipping running std 95 and pinking their cams off and ive had to send em to the local shell to brim the tanka nd they DO stop Pinking, so whoever sorted this "technical" article is clearly an uneducated fooking moron

keithG666

tis true.....exactly what i said to the chap at work who showed me!!!

I basically said that i wouldn't use anything less in the S1 and espcially if it was mapped like 1000's of cossies, etc, etc to this fuel....

they apparently used it in a......wait for it.......FORD C-MAX but they recon it would have been the same for any 'state of tune'

but because he has read this......he's now going to stop using optimax in his SEAT CUPRA R straight away and use normal 95 as he feels that hes being ripped off

Ginge !

what ya dont know is stu has shares in shell


i dont think its true though tbh


but it never made any difference to me cabrio or my company moped when i was a traffic warden ( but then i was filling 3 quid in a jerry can for my car and using sainsburys petrol in the ped , was 75.9 per litre not 91.5 pre litre

turbinator

he will have to rip out his kidney to pay for the new cupra engine very soon

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Tell him if hes ever passing il plug my sunscanner into his ODBII port and PROVE to him his car is detonating almost permanently on his new cheap fuel. Il even do this for free...

"Performance cars use performnce Fuels" easy slogan to remember folks

Zetec Andy

normal unleaded for me then

Karl

Indeed, higher octane fuel is only an advantage if the ecu is remapped, or sufficiently intelligent enough to optimise it's ignition advance to show an improvement.

If this test was conducted on a car with no adjustments made, remapped or with an intelligent ecu then what do they expect!!!

Madness!

Phil

iTrader: (1)

It is true for all UK car standard engines though!

Knowing quite a few of them, there are so many muppets with standard Saxo's and Corsa's who pay out for it's 'placebo' effect!

Tony Turbo

Still the debate goes on though, what about Optimax over ordinary SUL's?

Ginge !

if hes ever passing blackpol on the way to work

i think ill try that stu , sorry im late i passed my tuner on the way to work and popsm in for a cuppa, sory, ill make up the time next week ( ill worka extra day )

Ginge !

yeah there is deffo no difference in my efi cabrio






its slow no matter what i stick in it , dont seem to pull after 2500rpm

keithG666

EXACTLY

so its beneficial to still run Optimax in the S1 then?!?!?! even with MFI, etc? but 190 bhp?!?!

CabrioTurbo

ill tell my mate whos got an import scooby that its fine to use normal unleaded in his car!
I will point him the way of the 'times' when his engine melts!

buzznwood

Optimax should have a higher mon rating than super , all high performace (super optimax etc) fuels in the UK should have a minimum of mon of 86, optimax should be around 87.5. However I wouldn't really call any of our fuels high performance anymore

Stavros

Any idea about SUL sold by TOTAL garages? The shatty Total by us has just started flogging SUL...

Shell is less than 100m away so no boig deal, but wondered as never seen Total SUL before.

I think the Sainsburys by us sells SUL too, wassat like?

Kev.H

my car is noticebly different on super than when on normal unleaded specially round the vtec area

McPikie

Isnt SUL somma like 97 and optimax 98??

B19-TRB

My car was mapped to run optimax! & can state that it didnt like normal undleaded when i was forced to put Ł5 worth in i limted it to the nearest station with super/optimax & even doin 25 mph it missed like a slag!

Ginge !

think the ignition timeing has to be adjusted to make a difference dont it ?

oh and total sul was ok when i was collecting me cossie, ok i was drving at 70 to the next services for 8 miles to get optimax but seemed fine at that speed

paul220tcoupe

Yep and BP ultimate is meant to be 98 as well.

Physio

I never use anything other than optimax even though price's are getting ridiculous now But i wonder who can supply me 100 ron fuel?? Anyone???

keithG666

"NO MUFF TOO TUFF JUST CALL THE MUFF
BUSTERS AND HAVE YOUR CHUFF CHAFFED"

Physio

Funny guy

foreigneRS

muppets.

test it on something like a bmw or honda that have timing optimised by knock sensors and their results would be quite different.

proves how stupid they must be if torque was the same but they say the power changed

BillyCabrio

iTrader: (1)

What about Esso Super+??

I have just purchased an Rs Tubs doner vehicle for my project car, am using it at the moment as a daily runabout.

I was running normal UL and it was pinking like bitch, changed to Super+UL and its been fine and dandy?? Its a bog standard lump.

Dave Henshall

lets just leave the people who believe ALL they read in the papers to it,

after all, i'm a "Terror chase driver!"

XRTypeRS

Meant to have the highest MON rating of all SULs I read???

Billabong

Unless you have the timing adjusted, you should always use minimum of SUL in an ERST. They ran 98RON from the factory.....

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

ill stick to my normal unleaded then in my 400bhp cosworth

oh and the bp ultimate is 97 ron

The Youth.

iTrader: (1)

Are the different ecu's in the whole cosworth range able to do this?
and more importantly is my small turbo esc cos ok??
cheers,
steve

pugo

shell optimax, and bp ultimate use identical base gasolines ie SUL , however optimax has a slightly different additive added to it at loading !

in the south of england nearly all gasolines come from the BP refinery at coryton in essex anyway!!!
they are definatly higher ocatane and cleaner than normal unleaded95

so the answer to the initial question is NO !!!!

Pugo