OldDan

Just finished trying to get the car finished for a FF thrash tomorrow. Called it a night and dropped out. all my hard work and its let me down at the last hurdle.

Anyway, problem is this. I fitted a new clutch and flywheel this weekend, we got everything bolted up, and the starter just kicked and wouldn't turn the engine over.

Tried moving the crank with a spanner, and wasn't having it.

As soon as the gearbox is about 2 or 3 MM away from the block (i.e a few bolts loosened slightly!) The car starts, and the crank can be turned with a spanner. When it's tightened back up, it won't turn.

Any ideas guys?

Thanks.

Luca

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What flywheel you fit mate...

OldDan

Standard one, just lightened.

Luca

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MMmmmmm i must say im confused too mate.

You still coming tomorrow though/ today even lol..

OldDan

No mate, looking forward to a nice lie in now.

Fucking fought this piece of shit car right to the end.

All day Saturday, All day sunday, Monday til 11, Tonight til 12.


Oh well, could be worse I suppose.

Luca

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Come on down son, my cars staying in the garage, be good laugh.

Dont let the car spoil ya fun so to speak....

OldDan

No other way of getting down, this is the daily driver

jawanne

hi do they have a spacer plate ..has it did that on mine and i put the spacer plate back on and it was fine

OldDan

No mate, no spacer plate on these.

Charlie Chalk

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Shit news mate

Luca

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Mate i would offer to drive up now but i left work at half 5 today drve to southend and just this second got back in ,

Im have to meet Neil at his for half 6 which is 2 hours drive away.PMSL

For some strange reason im still typing here...


I feel like an Albanion trucker

jawanne

mite be the clutch.wat sort is it

OldDan

Well, next task it getting it sorted for RR day mate. Concentrating on that now.

OldDan

Clutch is a helix.

It's all bled up and feels fine. Like I said, the car DID start, when the bolts were wound out by maybe 2 mil?

Luca

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Have you got the spacer plate for yours....

Chop it in half mate.... Then one half at a time slot it between block and box then re-insert bolts and do same for below......


Might work i dunno,

OldDan

I text neil at 12ish, I might of woken him, but he did reply.

Luca

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Soory just re- read that

OldDan

BTW, Car is 30miles away, so it's a deffo no no for tomorrow at brunters, but will be getting box out tomorrow to see what the score is.

Luca

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I would ring him now but he is proberbly kncking one out over Pat Bucher again! So best leave the looon to it.....



If ya can blag a lift mate,,,,, come down be good to catch a chat with ya

jawanne

sounds like the fly wheel is touching the gearbox in side it can only be them two things

OldDan

Thing is, the flywheel is a standard item, just machined.

Charlie Chalk

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So is everything thats gone back in, everything that came out?

OldDan

Yep.

jawanne

mite be the spline that goes in to the middle of the clutch mite not be line up that happened to me with my nova me and my mate pushed it and bumped it and was ok ........i think thats the prob

OldDan

We thought it could be something like that, so got it started up, died quickly, but we were hoping it'd get everythiing to line up.

Will see what the score is tomorrow, definatly an unusual thing I think?

Charlie Chalk

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Can't see it being anyhing major.. probably the smallest most pissy thing! and it'll be annoying when its fixed!

jawanne

hope you get it sorted mate

JonnyBravo

Exactly what I would of said, its happened a few times on novas for me.

the input shaft isn't actually sitting through the splines so when its lose it will turn over, when its tight it wont as it just locks everything up solid.

Either way you wont be fixing it intime I so know how you feel mate

OldDan

Well, got til the 6th of Oct to sort it.

Really wanna give the car a good hammering, not been able to really on this tempremental clutch, now I've got the helix and lightened flywheel in I wanna drive it!


FUCK I also really miss the noise !!!

Farmer Giles

If the flywheel has been made thinner to make it lighter then could it be the bolts are now slightly too long and hitting on something through the back of the flange on the crank ??

I don't know the Fiesta set up really but just a thought...

St3V3_C

Is it in gear LOL



Let us know what this is, because it's a little odd...

OldDan

The flywheel is the same thickness,

Gonna get the box out later tonight and see whats going on.

Will keep you updated.

wide ka

yeah please do , cya tonight then!

Benni

It's your crank shaft manifold piston rod creating 1st gear to go into the crank bearings. On a serious note, I hope hope you get it sorted mate.

Benni.

James

Have you got the flywheel the right way round?

i know it sounds silly but it is possible! dunno about the zetec se engine though.

OldDan

Yep, flywheel is correct way round

COMEDY DAN

Helix do 2 different size clutches 200mm and 220mm S1 and S2, you got the right one?

OldDan

It's for a Puma 1.7, which is the same box/ engine fitting.

OldDan

Oopsies LOL.


Right, got the car started tonight with all the box tight, good news!!! then tried to get it into gear, and not happening. Jon and I bled the clutch manually and using an automatic brake/clutch bleeder, and still the same.

So, in record time (20mins!!!!) the box was off, kind of. It seems the input shaft is stuck on the friction plate. It could be the plate machined wrong, who knows.

Anyway, we can't get the box off, so the engine is being dropped out the bottom and we'll go from there.

Not too bothered really, it could be worse at the end of the day, i could be paying labour charges! but because I'm doing it myself, it's OK

Will keep you updated.

Miller 3

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Good luck mate