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Old 16-09-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Headgaskets....

I need a new one

Driving the cabbie home from the garage its been sat in at my mates for the past year to my own garage earlier, plodding along giving it a 'few' beans and KA-POW white smoke eat ya heart out

Its running a standard Ford headgasket at the mo or it was, what should i replace it with? Don't really want to go thru this again if i can help it
Old 16-09-2007, 12:33 PM
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Std's perfect, if fitted correctly, look after and no coolant issues.
Old 16-09-2007, 12:44 PM
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The OE Ford Gasket is the best one IMO, but you will need to get the head checked for alignment and pressure tested if you want to be sure.
Old 16-09-2007, 12:46 PM
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Thinking about it now, i think the one that was on it was a patent one from a local motor factors.

I'll get down Fords tomorrow then, should i get the stretch bolts while i'm there? Anything else i should get?

Christian and Beccy

What would of made it got like that? To much booooooooooost?
Old 16-09-2007, 01:25 PM
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you need to ask you self why has it gone before putting a new one on if it was only a few years old paul if you need the bits let me know m8 i got them in stock
Old 16-09-2007, 01:30 PM
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I wouldn't have a clue why its gone Alex, its sat still in a garage for a year.

I'd let it tickover for at least 20 minutes before driving it and then brought it home, mind you i did give it some welly on the dual carridgeways on route.
Old 16-09-2007, 01:43 PM
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det is what blows head gaskets.

fueling might be up the spout after sitting for so long.

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Old 16-09-2007, 01:52 PM
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Won't be the boost, it's only holding 16psi ain't it ?
Old 16-09-2007, 01:58 PM
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18 actually

Stavros

It was due to be set-up again as well
Old 16-09-2007, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DanRSturbo
Won't be the boost, it's only holding 16psi ain't it ?
Which is about 6spi more than yours

Sorry to hear it paul, you sure its the H/G and not something else? get a leak down test and compression test done to confirm before taking the head off.

Is it possible the cheap motor factors H/G has corroded while its been sitting in storage and then you take it fo a blast and pop.

IMO you can't beat the std ford headgasket, would be perfect for your needs (was fine on my RST )
Old 16-09-2007, 02:13 PM
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Head Gaskets fail for many reasons. Such as....

1. Poor quality gasket
2. Head warped
3. Head cracked
4. Det
5. Incorrectly fitted/Torqued (caused by dirty/corroded threads in the block for example)

To name a few.

Personally, I would get the head into someone who can check it for the stuff I said. Then run an M10 tap down the holes and clean them out with brake-cleaner/airline, then refit the head with either a Genuine Ford or Payen head gasket and bolts. If you want to do the job a little more properly, coat both sides of the head bolt washers with Moly Grease before following the proper tightening sequence. That really is worth doing, but only if everything is clean.

Then, you'll be almost exactly where I am, with a setup that is putting up with 30psi etc. BTW, my gasket is Payen.
Old 16-09-2007, 02:15 PM
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" coat both sides of the head bolt washers with Moly Grease "

How come Christian?
Old 16-09-2007, 02:20 PM
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AndyRST & Christian and Beccy

I'll reply fully later as i'm just off out, but its defo the headgasket as theres water all around the head/block meeting area behind the exhaust fanimold.

Thanks both for your help
Old 16-09-2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by haz87
" coat both sides of the head bolt washers with Moly Grease "

How come Christian?
You heard how the bolts 'creak' when you go through the tightening procedure? This stops that from happening so you don't feel like they might snap and not tighten them fully.

Also, if the washers/bolts bind as you are tightening them, it will give a false impression of them having reached the required torque.
Old 16-09-2007, 02:26 PM
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Never even thought of that!
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
AndyRST & Christian and Beccy

I'll reply fully later as i'm just off out, but its defo the headgasket as theres water all around the head/block meeting area behind the exhaust fanimold.

Thanks both for your help
Another bit of help, You should have sprayed your cabbie white as we all know white ones were best, i mean look at Tony's and Christians
Old 16-09-2007, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
AndyRST & Christian and Beccy

I'll reply fully later as i'm just off out, but its defo the headgasket as theres water all around the head/block meeting area behind the exhaust fanimold.

Thanks both for your help
Another bit of help, You should have sprayed your cabbie white as we all know white ones were best, i mean look at Tony's and Christians


Mines in bits and Tony's is in hiding!!
Old 16-09-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
AndyRST & Christian and Beccy

I'll reply fully later as i'm just off out, but its defo the headgasket as theres water all around the head/block meeting area behind the exhaust fanimold.

Thanks both for your help
Another bit of help, You should have sprayed your cabbie white as we all know white ones were best, i mean look at Tony's and Christians


Mines in bits and Tony's is in hiding!!
Minor problems

Blue Focus's are the way forward you know
Old 16-09-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
AndyRST & Christian and Beccy

I'll reply fully later as i'm just off out, but its defo the headgasket as theres water all around the head/block meeting area behind the exhaust fanimold.

Thanks both for your help
Another bit of help, You should have sprayed your cabbie white as we all know white ones were best, i mean look at Tony's and Christians


Mines in bits and Tony's is in hiding!!
Minor problems

Blue Focus's are the way forward you know
Only because you can't handle a manly 1600cvh and hove to ponce around with a 2 litre zetec
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Originally Posted by DanRSturbo
Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
AndyRST & Christian and Beccy

I'll reply fully later as i'm just off out, but its defo the headgasket as theres water all around the head/block meeting area behind the exhaust fanimold.

Thanks both for your help
Another bit of help, You should have sprayed your cabbie white as we all know white ones were best, i mean look at Tony's and Christians


Mines in bits and Tony's is in hiding!!
Minor problems

Blue Focus's are the way forward you know
Only because you can't handle a manly 1600cvh and hove to ponce around with a 2 litre zetec
Yeah couldn't handle the speed at which they rust
Old 17-09-2007, 09:14 PM
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Popped out today and ordered the Ford headgasket and stretch bolts, looks like Saturday is going to be busy
Old 17-09-2007, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
det is what blows head gaskets.

fueling might be up the spout after sitting for so long.
wake up Stav, theres many things that can cause a head gasket to go, if the car has been sitting for a year more than likley the gasket has rotted away.
Old 17-09-2007, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
Popped out today and ordered the Ford headgasket and stretch bolts, looks like Saturday is going to be busy

take it you did not want trade then you could of picked up your lucky charms mmm
Old 17-09-2007, 09:52 PM
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I get trade at my local Fords mate

Oi! Keep ya hands off

Old 18-09-2007, 06:49 AM
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i would of got a Payen gasket and non strench bolts.


£30 all inc.
Old 18-09-2007, 09:56 AM
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I think the Ford one will do, i'm not running crazy bhp - my ickle 180 will do me
Old 18-09-2007, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
Popped out today and ordered the Ford headgasket and stretch bolts, looks like Saturday is going to be busy
Damn right you will be you gotta take me Birthday shopping first biach!!!
Old 18-09-2007, 11:41 AM
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Get a Felpro















Standard Ford every time. Works for me on both of mine
Old 18-09-2007, 11:51 AM
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Righto then, am I correct in thinking that Ford stock the gaskets etc? I need one for my S1.
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Yes they do mate
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always use ford bolts they look greenish on the sides and are coated so will not rust in and snap like lots of after market ones.
Old 18-09-2007, 04:39 PM
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Paul, Dan suggested the Payen one as they are the manufacturer of the OE gasket (it really is IDENTICAL except for the Ford logo), but they are usually cheaper.
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As Christian Said.


£13 - £17 for a Payden H/G.
Old 18-09-2007, 06:05 PM
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Tim

Christian and Beccy

Fiecos Dan

Thanks lads, i didn't pay far off that for the Ford one
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Fair play, i used to pay £38 for a ford H/G.




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