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Old 10-09-2007, 03:36 PM
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as above, i have just changed my brake discs and calipers on my front wheels and the hoses too. ive bled the drivers side and the passengers side but now when i drive forward and brake my back wheels lock up and when i reverse the back wheels squeak. is there a certain way to bleed the brakes ie engine off or on, is there a certain order to bleed them in. any help grateful.
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you need to have the key on and the battery connected when you bleed the brakes.
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does it matter what order they bleed in
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Dont think so, im sure it probably does but i recently did my friends front brakes and they were ok.

if you did it with the key off then thats why the rears are locking - the cars have no servo so run a pressurised system, you have to have the key on to get fluid into the lines.
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Originally Posted by bobfish
Dont think so, im sure it probably does but i recently did my friends front brakes and they were ok.

if you did it with the key off then thats why the rears are locking - the cars have no servo so run a pressurised system, you have to have the key on to get fluid into the lines.
never heard off that before when we bleed brakes we do them with the resovior open and no ignition the bleed for the furtherest brake to the closest
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ignition on for the rears, press the pedal, get someone else to open the nipple, let the fluid flow out till there are no more bubbles

fronts are as normal, pump the pedal etc
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Correct method is:

Ignition in position 1(Aux)

Start with the rear,get someone on the pedal.......crack off the bleed nipple and get your helper to push the pedal half way down......the stored pressure will now pump the fluid and air out with no further pedal pumping...

Fronts are bled as normal,best to leave the cap off the master....

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don't get an air lock in the abs valve block, they tend to be difficult to get rid of
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would s2 back brakes be the same
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Correct method is:

Ignition in position 1(Aux)

Start with the rear,get someone on the pedal.......crack off the bleed nipple and get your helper to push the pedal half way down......the stored pressure will now pump the fluid and air out with no further pedal pumping...

Fronts are bled as normal,best to leave the cap off the master....

does it matter what side i start on is it pass rear then driver rear pass front then driver front and do i leave key on one al the time between each brake
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ok

start with passenger front first

have someone hold the pedal down, then open nipple close nipple relase pedal, and repeat until no air comes out of fluid

do the same for drivers side front

rears, igntion needs to be on

have someone hold there foot on the pedal

open passenger side rear caliper until no air comes out and repeat for drivers side

you will have brakes and a very good pedal and should take no longer than 20mins

keep an eye on fluid

you have to have the cap off disconnect the sensors on cap obviously aswell

once finished top fulid up to max, turn igniton on and let the pump prime up, will take a few seconds, and again top up if needed

ths is roughly how the workshop manual says,
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Originally Posted by georgie1
Originally Posted by The Diva
Correct method is:

Ignition in position 1(Aux)

Start with the rear,get someone on the pedal.......crack off the bleed nipple and get your helper to push the pedal half way down......the stored pressure will now pump the fluid and air out with no further pedal pumping...

Fronts are bled as normal,best to leave the cap off the master....

does it matter what side i start on is it pass rear then driver rear pass front then driver front and do i leave key on one al the time between each brake
I personally start at the furthest away from the master cylinder,so n/s/r......o/s/r.....n/s/f.......o/s/f

Just leave the key on aux,that will keep the system charged
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thanks guys sorry to be a pain and dumb is ns passside
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yes mate
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Old post, but just what i needed
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Originally Posted by dojj
don't get an air lock in the abs valve block, they tend to be difficult to get rid of
resurected from the ashes again but better than starting a new one!

^this is the problem i have as the abs block sat on a bench for a long time, any one know how to fix it? the pump is running and creating pressure, fronts are bled perfect but no fluid appearing at the rear with ign running..
thanks
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From what I remember you have to crack one of the return pipes to the master cylinder as there is some fluid back and forth issues that cause this

When the abs kicks in the fluid pressure will be sent back to the main pump but if there is no fluid in the system it will just be letting air in so you need to expel the air first

You could try to prime the thing with fluid first but that's a tricky ask so perhaps you'll need to find the lines and crack them all one by one until the fluid. Ones out?
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Originally Posted by alanfordtw-15
resurected from the ashes again but better than starting a new one!

^this is the problem i have as the abs block sat on a bench for a long time, any one know how to fix it? the pump is running and creating pressure, fronts are bled perfect but no fluid appearing at the rear with ign running..
thanks
is the pump runnin mate??
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Originally Posted by jay
is the pump runnin mate??
Yes, he stated that above.

Martin
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Yes, he stated that above.

Martin
oh yea my bad lol
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Originally Posted by dojj
From what I remember you have to crack one of the return pipes to the master cylinder as there is some fluid back and forth issues that cause this

When the abs kicks in the fluid pressure will be sent back to the main pump but if there is no fluid in the system it will just be letting air in so you need to expel the air first

You could try to prime the thing with fluid first but that's a tricky ask so perhaps you'll need to find the lines and crack them all one by one until the fluid. Ones out?
very good, thanks for that, will try tomorrow night
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