Rear mounted YB in an RS Turbo.....
24-08-2007, 12:58 AM
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Rear mounted YB in an RS Turbo.....
My car is a shell at the mo.
Was looking in the back of the car in a bit of a day dream.
Thought to myself "wouldn't it be cool to have a yb in the boot!"
Has anyone done this on here? Would like to see some pictures
Was looking in the back of the car in a bit of a day dream.
Thought to myself "wouldn't it be cool to have a yb in the boot!"
Has anyone done this on here? Would like to see some pictures
24-08-2007, 09:29 AM
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years ago some Autograss racers had the Yb's in the back, handled well on a field 
not seen a rear mounted yb in a road car tho, what gearbox would you use?
not seen a rear mounted yb in a road car tho, what gearbox would you use?
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24-08-2007, 10:54 AM
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That would be wicked.
Rear wheel gartrac stylee, hanging it round bends for fun!
Probably cost stupid money getting a transmission tunnel made, buying an engine, running gear, loom, ecu, turbo, cooler, etc etc etc etc.....
Who on here has already done it? I'm really interested now!
Rear wheel gartrac stylee, hanging it round bends for fun!
Probably cost stupid money getting a transmission tunnel made, buying an engine, running gear, loom, ecu, turbo, cooler, etc etc etc etc.....
Who on here has already done it? I'm really interested now!
24-08-2007, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy_RST
That would be wicked.
Rear wheel gartrac stylee, hanging it round bends for fun!
Probably cost stupid money getting a transmission tunnel made, buying an engine, running gear, loom, ecu, turbo, cooler, etc etc etc etc.....
Who on here has already done it? I'm really interested now!
Rear wheel gartrac stylee, hanging it round bends for fun!
Probably cost stupid money getting a transmission tunnel made, buying an engine, running gear, loom, ecu, turbo, cooler, etc etc etc etc.....
Who on here has already done it? I'm really interested now!
24-08-2007, 11:15 AM
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the name looks familiar, lockerspares
who's that?
24-08-2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy_RST
Thats quite amusing!
Reading the comments, the fellas defence for his poor control in the vid is "it's got the engine in the back so the weight over the rear end makes it handles like shit etc".......... but I remember the resto thread on this car and the engine is virtually mid-mounted.
I reckon it would handle much better than that in the correct hands, and I dare say that if you gave the lad a Sierra and told him to drift it round that roundabout he'd end up putting on a simular display. It's all about control with drifting.
Not knocking the fella at all because i'm equally crap at drifting, i'm just pointing out that putting an engine in the back doesn't neccesarily mean it will handle like shit
24-08-2007, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy_RST
Thats quite amusing!
Reading the comments, the fellas defence for his poor control in the vid is "it's got the engine in the back so the weight over the rear end makes it handles like shit etc".......... but I remember the resto thread on this car and the engine is virtually mid-mounted.
I reckon it would handle much better than that in the correct hands, and I dare say that if you gave the lad a Sierra and told him to drift it round that roundabout he'd end up putting on a simular display. It's all about control with drifting.
Not knocking the fella at all because i'm equally crap at drifting, i'm just pointing out that putting an engine in the back doesn't neccesarily mean it will handle like shit
err check out the vid of him him sliding his transit. he's a mate & a fairly good driver
24-08-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jaimesdna
Originally Posted by Lux_Interior
Originally Posted by Billy_RST
Thats quite amusing!
Reading the comments, the fellas defence for his poor control in the vid is "it's got the engine in the back so the weight over the rear end makes it handles like shit etc".......... but I remember the resto thread on this car and the engine is virtually mid-mounted.
I reckon it would handle much better than that in the correct hands, and I dare say that if you gave the lad a Sierra and told him to drift it round that roundabout he'd end up putting on a simular display. It's all about control with drifting.
Not knocking the fella at all because i'm equally crap at drifting, i'm just pointing out that putting an engine in the back doesn't neccesarily mean it will handle like shit
err check out the vid of him him sliding his transit. he's a mate & a fairly good driver
Ahh fair enough then!
I'm suprised the car doesn't handle better, I suppose it just needs some tweaking and setting up, maybe playing about with spring rates and the like. Either that, or sling another engine back in the front aswell!
24-08-2007, 08:04 PM
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that rear engined rs turbo was mine & wasw me driveing it on that video.
i used to be a member on here untill i got banned for selling parts to cheap & only being a gold member! & no1 will come to reason & let me back on here! so have 2 use my mrs user account when browsing now
anyway back to the subject:
i found that it was hard 2 get it 2 drift out so i had to throw it out abit & most of the time it just went all the way around (as in that vid) as it was too heavy on the rear!
if i had a choice/was building one ide build a front engined rwd escort useing the siuerra floor etc.......
there is no weight over the front ond on a rear engined escort & it will also push on like fooook
as for comments on the driveing of the video: my view is unless urve owned one u cant comment on how they handle. (like shite)
i used to be a member on here untill i got banned for selling parts to cheap & only being a gold member! & no1 will come to reason & let me back on here! so have 2 use my mrs user account when browsing now
anyway back to the subject:
i found that it was hard 2 get it 2 drift out so i had to throw it out abit & most of the time it just went all the way around (as in that vid) as it was too heavy on the rear!
if i had a choice/was building one ide build a front engined rwd escort useing the siuerra floor etc.......
there is no weight over the front ond on a rear engined escort & it will also push on like fooook
as for comments on the driveing of the video: my view is unless urve owned one u cant comment on how they handle. (like shite)
24-08-2007, 08:16 PM
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Clive Seddon(rc developments) had a r5 gtt with a yb mounted inline in the back.....trans axle but unsure where it originated from. Infact i dont even know if he got round to finishing it, it was years ago when i seen it.
Imo rear engine = not good.
Mid engine = very good....but only with the correct chassis.
Charlie Chalk, a pm with how many peanuts would be much appreciated
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Imo rear engine = not good.
Mid engine = very good....but only with the correct chassis.
Charlie Chalk, a pm with how many peanuts would be much appreciated
Rob
24-08-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rosie
that rear engined rs turbo was mine & wasw me driveing it on that video.
i used to be a member on here untill i got banned for selling parts to cheap & only being a gold member! & no1 will come to reason & let me back on here! so have 2 use my mrs user account when browsing now
anyway back to the subject:
i found that it was hard 2 get it 2 drift out so i had to throw it out abit & most of the time it just went all the way around (as in that vid) as it was too heavy on the rear!
if i had a choice/was building one ide build a front engined rwd escort useing the siuerra floor etc.......
there is no weight over the front ond on a rear engined escort & it will also push on like fooook
as for comments on the driveing of the video: my view is unless urve owned one u cant comment on how they handle. (like shite)
i used to be a member on here untill i got banned for selling parts to cheap & only being a gold member! & no1 will come to reason & let me back on here! so have 2 use my mrs user account when browsing now
anyway back to the subject:
i found that it was hard 2 get it 2 drift out so i had to throw it out abit & most of the time it just went all the way around (as in that vid) as it was too heavy on the rear!
if i had a choice/was building one ide build a front engined rwd escort useing the siuerra floor etc.......
there is no weight over the front ond on a rear engined escort & it will also push on like fooook
as for comments on the driveing of the video: my view is unless urve owned one u cant comment on how they handle. (like shite)
I guess your right there, cant really comment til i've driven something like it (which I havent!) I just assumed the handling wouldnt be that bad and that you were just bieng a bit lead footed! Didn't mean owt by it.
I see your point about the rear engine pushing the lighter front end on. The way I see it, it's a simular layout to an MR2- the engine is virtually mid-mounted, so what i'm saying is the car probably isnt a total loss when it comes to handling, it just maybe needed some sort of fiddling with the suspension set up or something?
I'm up to my elbows in a simular project right now so i'm interested to hear your experiences
24-08-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs1
Clive Seddon(rc developments) had a r5 gtt with a yb mounted inline in the back.....trans axle but unsure where it originated from. Infact i dont even know if he got round to finishing it, it was years ago when i seen it.
It was sold soon after to fund another project
25-08-2007, 01:30 AM
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nah i reckon with a decnt suspneion set up etc... after a while u could get it 2 handle.
the 1 in the video was standard engine wise & was running about 3psi! so it didnt have the power to kick out off its own back & needed a helping hand/lead foot
mr2's etc.... were facorty built mid engined so all suspension & weight factors were well thought out where on this ur takeing all the weight out of the front & sticking it in the rear, it did have a fuel tank under the bonnet but wasnt anything compared to the loss of weight from engine, box, shafts & even small bits like water hoses, header tank etc....
heres a few pics from when i had it
it was very hot sitting in the drivers seat when the turbo glows like this
the 1 in the video was standard engine wise & was running about 3psi! so it didnt have the power to kick out off its own back & needed a helping hand/lead foot
mr2's etc.... were facorty built mid engined so all suspension & weight factors were well thought out where on this ur takeing all the weight out of the front & sticking it in the rear, it did have a fuel tank under the bonnet but wasnt anything compared to the loss of weight from engine, box, shafts & even small bits like water hoses, header tank etc....
heres a few pics from when i had it
it was very hot sitting in the drivers seat when the turbo glows like this
25-08-2007, 09:06 AM
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Lol @ people who say rear engine cars dont handle correct
some of The most famous rally cars are rear engine
The fastest and best grass track cars are all rear engine and handle very well
The fact that he is just reving the shit out of it on wet roads is why he keeps facing the wrong way
if he learned better throttle control he might get round the roundabout
some of The most famous rally cars are rear engine
The fastest and best grass track cars are all rear engine and handle very well
The fact that he is just reving the shit out of it on wet roads is why he keeps facing the wrong way
if he learned better throttle control he might get round the roundabout
25-08-2007, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Lol @ people who say rear engine cars dont handle correct
some of The most famous rally cars are rear engine
some of The most famous rally cars are rear engine
not by some guy in the shed whos welding the front inner wings into the back
25-08-2007, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
some of The most famous rally cars are rear engine
i would say over or slightly forward is mid engined,,porker etc is rear.
25-08-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
I agree.......... so name me a famous rally car aside from the 911 that is rear engined, and not mid-engined.
25-08-2007, 09:32 AM
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i think first you need to define what is a mid engine car, and a rear engine car, i personally think its more to do with the centre of mass of the engine compaired to the chassis, and not where it sits on the rear axle line
if you think that that rst is mid engine,,, that that must make all RST's mid engine, as the engine isnt INFRONT of the axle
if you think that that rst is mid engine,,, that that must make all RST's mid engine, as the engine isnt INFRONT of the axle
25-08-2007, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
if you think that that rst is mid engine,,, that that must make all RST's mid engine, as the engine isnt INFRONT of the axle
25-08-2007, 09:46 AM
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Yes Paul, because there's a huge difference!
Therfore the fact that he cant drive it makes him even more stupid
26-08-2007, 02:22 AM
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Therfore the fact that he cant drive it makes him even more stupid
urll end up dizzy with the amount of circles urll be doing u cant tell me cutting the front out of 1 car & welding it into the rear of another all on standard susension set up etc..... & it will handle!
you could prob get it to handle if u messed about with it all & had some decent power to push you around (being the main factor here)
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