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Old 22-08-2007 | 08:04 PM
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Default ..if you was buying an mitzi EVO

...is it worth spending xtra on the 6 over the 5?

7.5k gets a good 5...but you need to spend 2-3k more on the 6..but to me they look the same although the 6 is faster to sixty at 4.3 secs against 4.6 accoreding to figures
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...are you implying i take drugs?


Quite possibly...i am sposed to be a dealer but i have nothing left to sell
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I would get the 5 and mod it. 6's are over rated IMO
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i looooooooooove the looks of the 6

my fave evo

dont think id buy one though

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..but how is the 5 different from the 6?...In terms of why you would buy?

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I'd personally go for an Evo 5 RS. has more road presence then the 6 imo and is without all the AYC etc (not that you'd need it anyway, the way you drive ) and has the super strong rear diff (again... not that you'd need it!!)

evo 5 RS FTW
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Go the 6 minimum but to be honest but I would be looking later models depending on how long you plan to keep it for.

I would stay away from the earlier models, great cars but they will need more general maintenance than the later models, sooner.
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..the 5 and 6 look identical Matt J
Old 22-08-2007 | 08:27 PM
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Evo 5 RS Phil, no AYC nice strong diff, light weight, very capable car in standard form...
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Phil

Truthfully they are both the same but Tech the 6 is the best and it prob is,
I would buy a 6 over a 5 but if they wasnt a 6 I would buy a 5 .

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haveing owend a 5 rs and a 6gsr

id look at both 5 rs and gsr and 6 rs and gsr just get the best car you can the rs has a stronger diff and is lighter and also has a shoter gearing so gets to 130 quick but thats it where as the gsr will go on to 150

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..the 5 and 6 look identical Matt J

i thought the evo 6 had a different bumper....


i know theres not much in the looks, but for me the 6 looks soooo much better for some reason...
did they have different wheels to the 5, maybe its that if they did



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evo 6 has alot of differances lookswise from 5.
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Phil, l really like the 6's they look mean and are really raw looking what l wanted but got the deal on the 8

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Phil, here's some of the differences as listed on MLR model info for the Evo 6 over the 5..

Evolution VI arrived with some fine tuning to its aerodynamics after changes in the 1999 WRC regulations restricted the size of aero attachments, and a dramatic improvement in cooling performance.

Cooling was improved by offsetting the license plate and using smaller fog lamps to enable the effective area of the bumper openings to be enlarged, while new ventilator and airflow ducts in the bumper enhanced the performance of the oil cooler. Drag was reduced with the use of hemi-spherical fog lamp covers, while the introduction of a twinwing reardeck spoiler design made up for the reduction in downforce resulting from its smaller size. Evolution VI's engine generated the same maxima as its predecessor but detail modifications improved reliability and response. A titanium-alloy turbocharger turbine - a world first - on the RS model improved throttle response, while the addition of a cooling channel in the pistons improved reliability.

Increasing coolant circulation by changing the layout of the coolant passages reduced cavitation. Improvements to the oil pan baffles and the use of an uprated oil cooler stabilized oil temperature at high engine loads. Detail changes to the suspension included: greater stiffness resulting from the use of forged front knuckles, and a lowering of the roll center by transferring the ball joint from the forged aluminum lower control arm to the knuckle, both resulting in better tire-road contact. At the rear, the use of forged aluminium for the lower control arms, trailing arms and toe control arms reduced the unsprung weight of the vehicle. A longer rebound stroke also improved tire-road contact. Body stiffness was increased with an additional 130 spot welds, the use of structural adhesive and the use of thicker gauge sheet metal in some panels. These detail changes enabled Evolution VI to achieve new peaks in terms of response, grip and handling stability.
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Originally Posted by G.B Turbo Solutions
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..the 5 and 6 look identical Matt J

i thought the evo 6 had a different bumper....


i know theres not much in the looks, but for me the 6 looks soooo much better for some reason...
did they have different wheels to the 5, maybe its that if they did



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Suspension arms/nuckal joints/turbo/ecu/front bumper/rear spoiler/seat colour/dash colour/brake caliper shims/pistons/rods/oil spray jets/oil cooler,
I am sure there are some other bits but I cant remember of the top of my head.

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Evo 5




Evo 6

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You beat me to it

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Old 22-08-2007 | 09:27 PM
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Gotta be the 6 if funds permit IMO.

I love the Reims blue (as above) look superb on a set of rrefurbed darker rims. You'll love one at circa 350bhp, and they are pretty straight forward to get to that.. and they'll be nice and reliable.
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not much between them realy , ive been reading up on mlr and cant see a big diff between them , but i wud go for the 6 probaly go down the rs route as ayc can be a pain up the bum, just for abit of info did you now the turbo,s spin in the oppisite direction from the 1 to 3 at first i dident believe it till i read it on 2 diff web sites

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5rs



6 gsr




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I love the Reims blue 6's also the only problem is i was forced to go out in one with 650bhp dam you Mark


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Evolutions are appropriately named, every time a new one is brought out it is better evolved than the last.

Later = better


Id still have a 5RS if it was me though!
Old 22-08-2007 | 10:20 PM
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The only evo id ever even considering buying is the Evo 6 tomi mak
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Looks nice on the new comps
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Those pics above aren't of Rheims blue cars.... they are of Icelle Blue ones.

This is Rheims blue, it's much lighter and it isn't a metallic finish



Icelle Blue

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On MLR there is a model comparison section for all models

Here is the link for 5 vs 6
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_sh...?id1=10&id2=12
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i wouldn't mind know a bit out em, im planning on selling the saff soon n getting a EVO 5

how reliable are they? expensive to maintain? etc
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
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Looks nice on the new comps
they are bbs wheels compmotive got the desigin off bbs

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...TO AN UNTRAINED EYE THE 5 AND 6 LOOK THE SAME TO ME


Now i see both together you can see quite a differenvce so i accept the and you may call me a cunt.

...trouble is though...i then look at the 7 which is just chalk and cheese lookswise...less aggressive but much more modern
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...TO AN UNTRAINED EYE THE 5 AND 6 LOOK THE SAME TO ME


Now i see both together you can see quite a differenvce so i accept the and you may call me a cunt.

...trouble is though...i then look at the 7 which is just chalk and cheese lookswise...less aggressive but much more modern

1/2/3 are protons and essentially the same

4/5/6 are all essentially the same

7/8/9 are all essentially the same



Its basically 3 revolutions and 6 evolutions effectively
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Originally Posted by Cawood
i wouldn't mind know a bit out em, im planning on selling the saff soon n getting a EVO 5

how reliable are they? expensive to maintain? etc
Go on MLR and click on Articles. Loads of info available there.
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ok to maintain when new expensive as they get older and more miles just like a cosworth
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
ok to maintain when new expensive as they get older and more miles just like a cosworth
Spot on the money. I have heard numerous people on here say how Jap is better than Cossies but if you go out and buy a 15 year old performance car, it is going to cost you similar money wherever it has come from in the world. The reason Jap is perceived to be better is because a lot of the cars are a maximum of 10 years old that are talked about but most are a lot less than that

Here is a link to some pics of BigPower's and my VII if you are thinking down that path now:

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...385&highlight=
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I cured all my old cossie repairing problems i bought a brand new one but it wasn't a cosworth only because they don't make one
so far i have done 3k miles and the maintance bills have been 0 what a surprise


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