..if you was buying an mitzi EVO
#1
..if you was buying an mitzi EVO
...is it worth spending xtra on the 6 over the 5?
7.5k gets a good 5...but you need to spend 2-3k more on the 6..but to me they look the same although the 6 is faster to sixty at 4.3 secs against 4.6 accoreding to figures
7.5k gets a good 5...but you need to spend 2-3k more on the 6..but to me they look the same although the 6 is faster to sixty at 4.3 secs against 4.6 accoreding to figures
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#8
I'd personally go for an Evo 5 RS. has more road presence then the 6 imo and is without all the AYC etc (not that you'd need it anyway, the way you drive ) and has the super strong rear diff (again... not that you'd need it!!)
evo 5 RS FTW
evo 5 RS FTW
#9
Go the 6 minimum but to be honest but I would be looking later models depending on how long you plan to keep it for.
I would stay away from the earlier models, great cars but they will need more general maintenance than the later models, sooner.
I would stay away from the earlier models, great cars but they will need more general maintenance than the later models, sooner.
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...are you implying i take drugs?
Quite possibly...i am sposed to be a dealer but i have nothing left to sell
Quite possibly...i am sposed to be a dealer but i have nothing left to sell
#15
haveing owend a 5 rs and a 6gsr
id look at both 5 rs and gsr and 6 rs and gsr just get the best car you can the rs has a stronger diff and is lighter and also has a shoter gearing so gets to 130 quick but thats it where as the gsr will go on to 150
john
id look at both 5 rs and gsr and 6 rs and gsr just get the best car you can the rs has a stronger diff and is lighter and also has a shoter gearing so gets to 130 quick but thats it where as the gsr will go on to 150
john
#16
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..the 5 and 6 look identical Matt J
i thought the evo 6 had a different bumper....
i know theres not much in the looks, but for me the 6 looks soooo much better for some reason...
did they have different wheels to the 5, maybe its that if they did
carl
#19
Phil, here's some of the differences as listed on MLR model info for the Evo 6 over the 5..
Evolution VI arrived with some fine tuning to its aerodynamics after changes in the 1999 WRC regulations restricted the size of aero attachments, and a dramatic improvement in cooling performance.
Cooling was improved by offsetting the license plate and using smaller fog lamps to enable the effective area of the bumper openings to be enlarged, while new ventilator and airflow ducts in the bumper enhanced the performance of the oil cooler. Drag was reduced with the use of hemi-spherical fog lamp covers, while the introduction of a twinwing reardeck spoiler design made up for the reduction in downforce resulting from its smaller size. Evolution VI's engine generated the same maxima as its predecessor but detail modifications improved reliability and response. A titanium-alloy turbocharger turbine - a world first - on the RS model improved throttle response, while the addition of a cooling channel in the pistons improved reliability.
Increasing coolant circulation by changing the layout of the coolant passages reduced cavitation. Improvements to the oil pan baffles and the use of an uprated oil cooler stabilized oil temperature at high engine loads. Detail changes to the suspension included: greater stiffness resulting from the use of forged front knuckles, and a lowering of the roll center by transferring the ball joint from the forged aluminum lower control arm to the knuckle, both resulting in better tire-road contact. At the rear, the use of forged aluminium for the lower control arms, trailing arms and toe control arms reduced the unsprung weight of the vehicle. A longer rebound stroke also improved tire-road contact. Body stiffness was increased with an additional 130 spot welds, the use of structural adhesive and the use of thicker gauge sheet metal in some panels. These detail changes enabled Evolution VI to achieve new peaks in terms of response, grip and handling stability.
Evolution VI arrived with some fine tuning to its aerodynamics after changes in the 1999 WRC regulations restricted the size of aero attachments, and a dramatic improvement in cooling performance.
Cooling was improved by offsetting the license plate and using smaller fog lamps to enable the effective area of the bumper openings to be enlarged, while new ventilator and airflow ducts in the bumper enhanced the performance of the oil cooler. Drag was reduced with the use of hemi-spherical fog lamp covers, while the introduction of a twinwing reardeck spoiler design made up for the reduction in downforce resulting from its smaller size. Evolution VI's engine generated the same maxima as its predecessor but detail modifications improved reliability and response. A titanium-alloy turbocharger turbine - a world first - on the RS model improved throttle response, while the addition of a cooling channel in the pistons improved reliability.
Increasing coolant circulation by changing the layout of the coolant passages reduced cavitation. Improvements to the oil pan baffles and the use of an uprated oil cooler stabilized oil temperature at high engine loads. Detail changes to the suspension included: greater stiffness resulting from the use of forged front knuckles, and a lowering of the roll center by transferring the ball joint from the forged aluminum lower control arm to the knuckle, both resulting in better tire-road contact. At the rear, the use of forged aluminium for the lower control arms, trailing arms and toe control arms reduced the unsprung weight of the vehicle. A longer rebound stroke also improved tire-road contact. Body stiffness was increased with an additional 130 spot welds, the use of structural adhesive and the use of thicker gauge sheet metal in some panels. These detail changes enabled Evolution VI to achieve new peaks in terms of response, grip and handling stability.
#20
Originally Posted by G.B Turbo Solutions
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..the 5 and 6 look identical Matt J
i thought the evo 6 had a different bumper....
i know theres not much in the looks, but for me the 6 looks soooo much better for some reason...
did they have different wheels to the 5, maybe its that if they did
carl
I am sure there are some other bits but I cant remember of the top of my head.
Mark
#23
Gotta be the 6 if funds permit IMO.
I love the Reims blue (as above) look superb on a set of rrefurbed darker rims. You'll love one at circa 350bhp, and they are pretty straight forward to get to that.. and they'll be nice and reliable.
#24
not much between them realy , ive been reading up on mlr and cant see a big diff between them , but i wud go for the 6 probaly go down the rs route as ayc can be a pain up the bum, just for abit of info did you now the turbo,s spin in the oppisite direction from the 1 to 3 at first i dident believe it till i read it on 2 diff web sites
andy
andy
#32
On MLR there is a model comparison section for all models
Here is the link for 5 vs 6
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_sh...?id1=10&id2=12
Here is the link for 5 vs 6
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_sh...?id1=10&id2=12
#35
...TO AN UNTRAINED EYE THE 5 AND 6 LOOK THE SAME TO ME
Now i see both together you can see quite a differenvce so i accept the and you may call me a cunt.
...trouble is though...i then look at the 7 which is just chalk and cheese lookswise...less aggressive but much more modern
Now i see both together you can see quite a differenvce so i accept the and you may call me a cunt.
...trouble is though...i then look at the 7 which is just chalk and cheese lookswise...less aggressive but much more modern
#36
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...TO AN UNTRAINED EYE THE 5 AND 6 LOOK THE SAME TO ME
Now i see both together you can see quite a differenvce so i accept the and you may call me a cunt.
...trouble is though...i then look at the 7 which is just chalk and cheese lookswise...less aggressive but much more modern
Now i see both together you can see quite a differenvce so i accept the and you may call me a cunt.
...trouble is though...i then look at the 7 which is just chalk and cheese lookswise...less aggressive but much more modern
1/2/3 are protons and essentially the same
4/5/6 are all essentially the same
7/8/9 are all essentially the same
Its basically 3 revolutions and 6 evolutions effectively
#39
Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
ok to maintain when new expensive as they get older and more miles just like a cosworth
Here is a link to some pics of BigPower's and my VII if you are thinking down that path now:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...385&highlight=
#40
I cured all my old cossie repairing problems i bought a brand new one but it wasn't a cosworth only because they don't make one
so far i have done 3k miles and the maintance bills have been 0 what a surprise
so far i have done 3k miles and the maintance bills have been 0 what a surprise