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Old 06-08-2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
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I suppose it depends how much the RPM drops once you have changed
from one gear to another.

So you could say the "lag" is dependant on gearbox type/ratios etc ... another factor
a pretty MAJOR factor i would say, but then how many people have experiance on close ratio gearboxes in turbocharged cars ?
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And me, I used to own a diesel. LOL! Now I am talking diesel can a diesel have ALS?
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Originally Posted by Benni
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by markk
Originally Posted by 68332
I suppose it depends how much the RPM drops once you have changed
from one gear to another.

So you could say the "lag" is dependant on gearbox type/ratios etc ... another factor
a pretty MAJOR factor i would say, but then how many people have experiance on close ratio gearboxes in turbocharged cars ?
Me
And me, I used to own a diesel. LOL! Now I am talking diesel can a diesel have ALS?

you are saying your diesel (as in the low revving engiens that have wide gears) had a close ratio box?

all diesels have an ALS bypass fitted as standard, its called no throttle, lol
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Benni
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by markk
Originally Posted by 68332
I suppose it depends how much the RPM drops once you have changed
from one gear to another.

So you could say the "lag" is dependant on gearbox type/ratios etc ... another factor
a pretty MAJOR factor i would say, but then how many people have experiance on close ratio gearboxes in turbocharged cars ?
Me
And me, I used to own a diesel. LOL! Now I am talking diesel can a diesel have ALS?

you are saying your diesel (as in the low revving engiens that have wide gears) had a close ratio box?

all diesels have an ALS bypass fitted as standard, its called no throttle, lol
I got confused with Ratio and RPM! Do you see where I got confused?
Old 08-08-2007, 10:17 AM
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You got confused at the point where you havent got a fucking clue what you are talking about and should leave interesting threads to the grown ups?
Old 08-08-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
You got confused at the point where you havent got a fucking clue what you are talking about and should leave interesting threads to the grown ups?
You won't learn if you don't join in.
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Originally Posted by Benni
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
You got confused at the point where you havent got a fucking clue what you are talking about and should leave interesting threads to the grown ups?
You won't learn if you don't join in.
You will if you just read and try and understand.

You wont if you dive in and spout bollocks and drag the thread down
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Dragged the thread down? It was already on it's arse to begin with. I wasn't spouting bollocks I was joking about the Diesel comment hence the LOL and smilie. And if I had of said nothing I wouldn't know what I now know which is close ratio and Short rev range are different.
Old 08-08-2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Benni
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
You got confused at the point where you havent got a fucking clue what you are talking about and should leave interesting threads to the grown ups?
You won't learn if you don't join in.
You will if you just read and try and understand.

You wont if you dive in and spout bollocks and drag the thread down
Fucking hell Chip mate. Back off a bit. He doesnt understand, no need to make him feel bad. I know he "hangs" in the muppet room most of the time, but hes only showing an interest.
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Anyone giving it large with a symbol while trying to look clever is fair game IMHO

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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Anyone giving it large with a symbol while trying to look clever is fair game IMHO

Fair enough.

Benni, back to the muppet room
Old 08-08-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Anyone giving it large with a symbol while trying to look clever is fair game IMHO

Fair enough.

Benni, back to the muppet room
You have to try and look clever around here or you won't make any friends. Anyway I tried and I failed so I'm going back to the muppet room now!

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Old 08-08-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Anyone giving it large with a symbol while trying to look clever is fair game IMHO

Fair enough.

Benni, back to the muppet room
Pair of bullies
Old 09-08-2007, 12:06 PM
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Benni

deiseals only rev to 5k so they need to have an engine that is flexiable throughout the whole rev range and longer gears to keep up with the petrol engined counterparts which can rev to at least 20% higher, in some cases you'll get 9K out of a honda engine yet a fair amount of deisesels will run out of puff coming up to 4.5k

there is also the thing about variable van turbos but tha'ts touching on a subject that doesn't really relate to this topic, unless there are plans afoot to make a range of variable vane turbos' for cossie applications that will also run als/lc

the problem with variable vanes (apparently) is that you can't dissasemble them because they work in a complcated way

so, back on topic
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dojj Cheers mate, Much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Benni
dojj Cheers mate, Much appreciated.
now all we need to have is someone who can put anti lag/launch control into the same sort of 2 line description and job done
Old 09-08-2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
the problem with variable vanes (apparently) is that you can't dissasemble them because they work in a complcated way

so, back on topic
not at all - the problem is the mechanism cannot stand the higher combustion temperatures of a petrol engine compared to a diesel (except that the latest porsche 911 has them fitted, so those problems must have been overcome to some extent)

anyway, back on topic - although i think it died a while ago
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by dojj
the problem with variable vanes (apparently) is that you can't dissasemble them because they work in a complcated way

so, back on topic
not at all - the problem is the mechanism cannot stand the higher combustion temperatures of a petrol engine compared to a diesel (except that the latest porsche 911 has them fitted, so those problems must have been overcome to some extent)

anyway, back on topic - although i think it died a while ago
for benni's benifit, poches are more expensive than normal cars and so they can have expensive bits fitted on them that bend the rules a little
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