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Old 23-07-2007, 03:17 PM
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jesus! i totally forgot about that! its sitting in my drawer at home. Pm me your address again..
Old 23-07-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boXXer
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
AP's
funny you say that! These may be coming out soon. But are WELL expensive...

These brakes are awesome .. had them at our company on loan for few weeks , they are incredible, feel amazing and the power is nothing like you have felt before. The price tag i think is around the 600-700 pound mark.

Old 23-07-2007, 03:27 PM
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yeah, they reckon £800 for the set. Stupid money. But yet again, are the bits gunna be available 5 years down the line???

Also, its all well and good having MASSES of power, but the tire can only grip as much as you apply the brake. Its like having V-brakes on slicks, they are MORE than powerful enough for them! lol
Old 23-07-2007, 03:32 PM
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can't you just put on a single hydraulic handbrake for a car on them
Old 23-07-2007, 03:33 PM
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True but these deliver the power in moderation and you get alot more feel back through the lever some brakes like Formula - give you a slack lever so one pull and the front end will lock up. These give you the advantage of moderation with the knowledge there proably stop a 250cc mx bike.

Then saying that some DH bikes dont weigh far off that.

The suspension will absorb alot of the braking force too which tends to overheat less enginered brake systems.

Im sure this is probably confusing people if they just want to buy a good set of brakes.

Get some Hope - keep to British.. Get some discs with your name laser cut into them think its an extra 35 quid for that.
Old 23-07-2007, 03:39 PM
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yeah. i had a Tomac DH frame, with Super monster T's on it. Weight nearly 60lb i reckon!
Old 23-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Get some Hope - keep to British.. Get some discs with your name laser cut into them think its an extra 35 quid for that.
didnt hope have a load of problems with these discs? dunno if they still do but i remember a few of the lads saying that bits of the dics were comin off. where the names were lazered into them. ie middle of letters
Old 23-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by boXXer
yeah. i had a Tomac DH frame, with Super monster T's on it. Weight nearly 60lb i reckon!
fuckin hell mike. bet you got arm pump riding that to work
Old 23-07-2007, 04:37 PM
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Boxxer - have you ridden in Vrbier / Alp's at all then?

None of the shops in Verbier sold Hope spares at all - plus the squeal did my head in on my M4's - this may well have been solved with the 07's, but my 06's=

I only went for 7's as that was what was recomened due to the ease with which you can get parts for, and how good they are supposed to be!

Suprised with what you have to ay about Formula's - one of the guys had them on a Hustler, and he was the only guy not get get brake pump-up in our group - everyone else had 7's , M4's (06's though) or Hayes and Shimano, all of which went on various desents
- its not stopping from 40mph plus which is the problem as both my m4's ans 7's are fine at this - its being hard on the brakes for 15 mins at a time

Any clue on the brake fluid idea too

Cheers
Old 23-07-2007, 04:40 PM
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Why is it that my hope 4 pots squeal loads in the wet but my mates magura 2 pots don't at all?

is it all down to how the disc is made or which type pad is used??

CheeRS nick
Old 23-07-2007, 05:09 PM
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its down to vibration usually, but pad compound makes a difference too. Gold Sintered pad squeal much more then organic, but last longer.

Rolls: I have ridden Les gets a couple of times, on my Mono M4's, and they were fine. I have no idea about the SRF fluid. I reckon it would be ok though as it meets the same requirments as normal DOT doesnt it?
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Originally Posted by Nick.
Why is it that my hope 4 pots squeal loads in the wet but my mates magura 2 pots don't at all?

is it all down to how the disc is made or which type pad is used??

CheeRS nick
could probably be a bit of both but not too clued up on that.

whenever i get a set of new pads or discs for my DH4's i used to pour coke over them and the used to take a layer of pads and disc. they used to squeal like fuck but after 5 mins of riding never heard nothing of them
Old 23-07-2007, 05:12 PM
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whatever you do though, DO NOT copper slip the backs of the pads! ive seen it fling onto the disc before and fook that pads.
Old 23-07-2007, 05:27 PM
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BRAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

On a push bike

What are you? all a bunch of slack jawed faggots.....
Old 23-07-2007, 05:28 PM
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Old 23-07-2007, 05:29 PM
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Seriously though

My 'old fashioned' Magura blocks against the rim still take some beating.
Old 23-07-2007, 05:30 PM
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Magura Hs33's were the best back in the day! still very good now TBH. Do yours need CONSTANT setting up though.
Old 23-07-2007, 05:32 PM
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Don't get out on it too often these days but Yes would be the simple answer,
but I have got the quick release bosses so it only takes a minute.
Old 23-07-2007, 05:45 PM
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or if you have a trials bike you get the 4 bolt magura mounts which are far better thatn the crap evo system!
Old 23-07-2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by boXXer
Magura Hs33's were the best back in the day! still very good now TBH. Do yours need CONSTANT setting up though.
yes every bloody time i venture out on my orange zero its a right pain in the arse but i don't want to sell my frame or fork as its the combo i have always wanted since been a wee bern and riding with danny holroyd when he had his orange zero with cannondale fattys on it lol

is there any way around this ?? or is it just a case of getting a decent bike shop to it once and do it right ?? never had this bike near a bike shop as i don't ride it enough really but if the brakes could be set up once and for all i'd be happy to it
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you can get it very good, and ive done them and theyve not moved for months.

You basically have to remove the QR system, and replace with a normal canti bolt, BUT, then you have the problem of the pads always floating side to side and rubbing one side of the rim. They are a nightmare!
Old 23-07-2007, 06:03 PM
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right might just hang the frame and forks on the wall and get an ashton frame and fork then as they ride loverly will have to replace the brakes too though ......
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Originally Posted by boXXer
its down to vibration usually, but pad compound makes a difference too. Gold Sintered pad squeal much more then organic, but last longer.

Rolls: I have ridden Les gets a couple of times, on my Mono M4's, and they were fine. I have no idea about the SRF fluid. I reckon it would be ok though as it meets the same requirments as normal DOT doesnt it?
Kool - what did you find the riding out there like? - its odd, esp as my best mate was on avids in Morzine last year, and he didn't have any problems at all - he said the trails were simply much harder on the brakes in Verbier. - I went with www.bikeverbier.co.uk and cannot recoemend them highly enough

I'll give the fluid a swap (yeah, it is dot4 spec), along with the slightly bigger rotors that i've got on order methinks! - cheers for your input
Old 23-07-2007, 06:11 PM
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go for it mate. I think it just needs changing more regular.

I stayed at a mates Challet right next to Les Gets, and didnt have to pay much for it.
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just get one of these pollocks much more fun to ride, but alot different to a zero! does me fine though!
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i hate mods mate with a passion i used to compete and its something that annoys me mtb trials is just that to me mate mtb its just a personal statement that though but i have ridden a couple of nice mods but i just don't get on with em mate
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sod that - this is what you want lol!
575 in wales:


Carbon bling:




Nice view from the lift in Verbier:


And a pic of the hardtail:






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allways stuck by Hope 2 pots... more than enogh braking on tioga DH2.10
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i ride a nice leeson bike for street, awsome hand built steel trials frame and forks! and a santacruz to work untill car works again lol
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Does it really matter lol? it's only a push bike it aint like your riding a heavy super bike isit lol - my rubber pads work fine
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Rolls have your fighters started leaking at all yet? how long you had them? Ive heard "through the grape vine" that they leak a little.
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My wee workhorse in 'road' trim for London to Brighton

most reliable bike i've ever had. Love her

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Originally Posted by boXXer
Rolls have your fighters started leaking at all yet? how long you had them? Ive heard "through the grape vine" that they leak a little.
Yeah - they have - my only saving grace is that 3 very good mates work for one of the top cycle shops in the country, so if need be i'll send them back to Pace through them... - I would have gone for rockshox, but they didn't really have anything that fitted the bill - plus these looked good, and are uber light
Only other complaint about the fighters is the ease with which you can ajust the rebound accidently
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thought so. I cant believe pace havent sorted their seal issue out after all these years. I dont think i have even seen a pair that have'nt leaked.
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Cool, thread. Seems there are some experts on here

I know FOOK all. but want to buy a new bike to ride on road and in forests and stuff.... thats the plan. I reality I will use it once/twice and end up giving it away to mate/family member so don't to spend £25k on a NASA special

What Bike shoud I be buying please guys
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Originally Posted by wide ka


just get one of these pollocks much more fun to ride, but alot different to a zero! does me fine though!
Was the rider hurt in the car crash that this bike was in????
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Cool, thread. Seems there are some experts on here

I know FOOK all. but want to buy a new bike to ride on road and in forests and stuff.... thats the plan. I reality I will use it once/twice and end up giving it away to mate/family member so don't to spend £25k on a NASA special

What Bike shoud I be buying please guys
What height and build are you and what do you weigh. Obv u are loaded but you're loaded because you want good value for money so i'll bear it in mind!
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6'2 15 stone..... in my dreams.


5'8

don't want anything mental as I really am NOT going to use it
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Cool, thread. Seems there are some experts on here

I know FOOK all. but want to buy a new bike to ride on road and in forests and stuff.... thats the plan. I reality I will use it once/twice and end up giving it away to mate/family member so don't to spend £25k on a NASA special

What Bike shoud I be buying please guys

pORKIE - this is the one you want - i can do you one for a special price of £4500.00 delivery free too.



Full carbon fibre frame and fork - Ferrari complete bike.
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but its still a colnago! lol

Fucking ferrari crap.

How much do you wanna spend mate? i can supply you one if needed? we deal with Trek, Specialzed, Giant. They our the biggest brands anyway.

Are you after a hybrid? If so, check out the Trek 7100 (£280) or the 7200 (around £300). Obviously the more you spend, the lighter, and stronger (sometimes!) they get.

Let me know.


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