chadyfunster

I always thought car modifications were about individuality not following fashion to the letter

after reading these mags for a while and talking to various people its seems
th only way you'll get a feature is if youve done what others have done every month
or know someone who can "hook you up"

do we start a trend or follow one i personally cant stand being a sheep and i like to be a trendsetter if it upsets the masses then so be it
why do we see the need to follow
is it we fear rejection from the "in crowd" or just dont want to cause a stir
i've seen many amazing modified cars in the ford scene that never seem to get the respect they deserve or the featurs to show others there is more to modifiing than mangement and stickers

how about the mags follow what we do for once and we stop following them to create a truly great scene that everyone can admire

this comes about after dicussing cars with a guy from the dub scene and he pointed out how complete they finish a car big bhp and a big slice of styling thrown in, his words were "when you pick up a ford mag all you see is power and no style when you pick up a vw mag you get both" and
it got me thinking he's right we need both and our mags and peers seem to snigger at style along side power

so imo its time for change i hope

pls discuss

thanks for reading my rant

SapphyMike

thats the Bible

being serious, I think that with one of the mags, it certainly helps your cause if you're in with someone known to the mag or had work done to your car by one of the companies they feature alot.

Chip

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What a load of bollocks in terms of Fast Ford.

They featured Richie's car last month.

You cant possibly get a more "non conformist" car than that!

(tiger striped saph that is pictured on the cover!)

SapphyMike

i agree completely.

thats why i buy FF and not PF

smitsturbo

that was the psalms part of the bible.....



no cunt knows what it is by looking at it

Neil@FastFord

Beat me to it!!

Seems a bit of a contradiction with your post Mr Funster. I welcome opinions but what scene do you think we are following??


We at FF have been making a big deal out of cars who have the bollocks to be different.

The same old stuff does get boring so we welcome well modded different cars.


Although just because somethings "different" it doesnt always mean good.


I personally love cars with unique subtle touches and huge power.....VERY similar to the dub scene

Chip

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I subscribe to FF, but I think PF is worth a read too.

I do agree about the whole scene in general that people get forced down certain routes by peer pressure, the mags are just reporting on that scene, so consequently tend to be of a similar opinion, but Fast Ford does genuinely seem to do its best to try and allow people to be different and still get coverage.

Hell, they even put my car on the cover, and its a fucking yellow cossie replica if you start getting all "RSOC" about it as its got the wrong logbook for a cossie, so I really do think its bollocks that they are so tunnel vision.

Stavros

If you are building a car purely to impress others or to get a magazine feature your a sad cunt IMO, and TBH building what you think mags want to see usually ends up in a car they WONT want to feature, as its the same old shit, or a hotch potch of other cover car ideas and looks a mess.

Fact is the Ford scene in the UK is incredibly closed minded, so theres never much variety, aside from a few exceptions, its remarkably similar to how it was 10years ago.

Its not to do with mags or anyone, its just the way it is, obv partly to do with who owns the cars, there seems to be enough out there that nobodys that fussed on changing.

SapphyMike

If a car is good enough, then its good enough - matters fuck all to me and most people who like the scene and arent stuck up fuckwits who pretend to be something they're not.

however, i find the scene tedious now

Chip

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PLEASE NOTE:

Although my opinion here is my own, I have done work for the company that own fast ford, so you can view me as biased if you want!

Seems fair to mention it!

SapphyMike

thought hadnt crossed my mind, and i certainly wouldnt have you down as being biased, i mean, you like vauxhalls after all

twinkle_2k86

IMO, you cant improove perfection, so leave them aloan, IE the cosworths RS turbo, RS2000, MK1 and Mk2 escorts etc. They just look perfect in every sense, they dont need no wild outragous boykits etc. Ok yes they all seem to look the same, but its the subtle touch that get noticed, and is what makes the car get featured IMO.

Anyone can go buy an aftermarket bodykit, slap it on, But that will never get featured, its missing the custom touches.


the the average jo, looking though FF etc, yer they do look the same, but read deep into it, and most have got something that gives them the edge over the rest.

chadyfunster

so ive missed a couple of features (dont shoot me) lol

my point is simple good cars are good cars! but like i said the guy i had the chat with just pointed what is true you never see anyone pushing the envlope futher than the average wheels which are all to common and power isnt it time we changed and with the mags changing it might just come back to people wanting to be unique and some really truly great cars which we havent seen yet

in pictures is an escort cab on porsche wheels its gettin a good response but stuff like that amazes me the work involed mustve been imense that is where im leanin torwards style with power

Neil@FastFord

Porkie

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Took the words right out of my mouth!!!!! well said.

Chadyfunster, I think you may have just written the BIGGEST load of Bollox I have ever seen of PassionFord!

That really is some acheivement!

Congratulations

May I ask what substance you were abusing at the time of posting? I would guess crack myself. Guy next to me swears that type of TOTAL bullshit and confusion could only come from a Meth head

I know all the boys at both Fast Ford and Performance Ford. They are all petrol heads and are not narrow minded at all. Build a good car and they will be fighting each other to feature it. The end.

Neil@FastFord

That makes much more sense, if owners built these type of cars more often they would go in. I see cars like that as inspirational and good for the scene in general.


Sadly some owners wont dare do anything other than the norm due to a huge amount of inbred peer group pressure. That's a shame.


We give huge respect to the likes of Rich of here. He has endured tons of abuse for daring to be different....even though the spec of his car is far superior to many of the people who chuck the insults.

Big respect for those who get it right but as we know, dodgy styling can end in tears and the car is soon found on ebay labled as a "real headturner"


It's a fine line...

chadyfunster

so we get down to insults when i have the balls to say something different

im not talkin bodykits and massive stereo im talking of something that a lot of thought has gone into other engines and brakes to make a car unique

if what we read and see all the time is pretty much of much then surely and change can oly make the scene a better place

so porkie read properly before you type

Porkie

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I can read fine thanks....


BUILD ONE THEN!!

Jesus....

Anyone who knows me will tell you it takes ALOT to wind me up....


You have managed it...

Fudgey

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dunno if read the mags often mate? but anyway, im building a 3dr sierra, now im trying to make it a bit euro and not following the grain.

for a start im using a 450+ bhp zetec turbo engine with nissan 200sx bits, roller barrel throttles etc

the bodywork has all been blended and smoothed in

its got a badboy grill! no one else likes em, but fuck em, i do!

click my sig for the full build so far if you want a look

chadyfunster

oh im sorry ive upset you boo f**kin hoo

its just my opinions that upset or the fact i may have a larger brain that allows me to think a little more

i dont need to build anything to prove to you or anyone else im just voiceing what i was thinking

chadyfunster

dan@fost ford car looks really nice i'll belooking forward to seein it finished

twinkle_2k86

Im prity sure that if you look through the mags it has all this

Ok the YB engine is used alot, but putting that engine in a mk3 escort or fiesta is not a sunday afternoon job, it takes alot of thought before cutting you car to bits to fit it. also, look at the Zetec turbo`s, Supercharges etc.
Its no different to the VW Sceen, most done up golfs are the same. Slap a set of 15" x 8 wide wheels, slammed on coil overs, and lets be different and drop a VR6 engine in it.

Thing is the types of ford where talking about, most things have been done now, think the YB has prity much turned up in every Ford. not sure if the orion has been done tho?? No we have the new generation of St`s etc maybe we shall start seeing a few more conversions using these engine etc.

Porkie

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I had no idea on the spec of Richs actually until 2 nights ago when I read the feature. Previously I had shown NO interest in it because it looks like a CUNTS car IMHO

Reading it I found out its a great spec some lovely interior and underbonnet touches as well.

Sadly I REALLY can't stand the way it looks... I met Rich as well and was amazed! seemed like a really nice normal guy

I expected a RIGHT funny looking cunt.... with terrible terrible taste in clothes... and some HUGE glasses

LEE-RS

They feature quality built motors they all look alike yes but if all you do is look at the pictures

What do you want them to do feature more cars like this




If so then i think your reading the wrong mags to start with

Fudgey

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me too

Mike Rainbird

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I never did undertsand all this peer pressure problem, as I have always built my cars to what I want and have never followed any particular trend or theme (mine is neither full track car, nor full road car, but a half way house compromise that suits what I use the car for).

If anyone is dissuaded from doing something they want, due to what someone else says, then that is purely down to their own weak will, as unless someone is holding a gun to your head, why would you HONESTLY give a fuck about what anyone else thinks .

That's whay it always makes me laugh when you see threads posted up asking OTHER PEOPLE to chose wheels / colour etc for THEIR CAR . It's YOUR car, make the choice based on what YOU like . I'm still looking out for the post that asks "What should I eat tonight?" or "What type of women should I like the best - blondes or brunettes?"

Arfur

If you do have a larger brain, perhaps you ought to unlock some of it to use the correct spelling, and construct and punctuate your sentences properly.

twinkle_2k86

and then you looked in the mirror and thought, ahhhhhhh


sorry im off

Porkie

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CLEARLY not is the answer.....

chadyfunster

missed my whole by a country mile mate

chadyfunster

who really cares about puctuation and spelling

Fudgey

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Rhys has already done that one mike, with a 'curry or chinese' post

Porkie

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Name some more good ones then??? I bet you can't and yet you say you have seen 'many'

If they are good or interesting and unsual cars that have been modified to a good standard then they WILL get featured. Its that simple.

matts1

I think there are people who are an ispiration and dare to be different and try different things, then once they have people follow that route. Then this becomes common place and so it's time for something new.

Not everyone can mod a car, and get it spot on, it's a gift. We all know when we see a car that has had the right things done to it and have respect for it, another car can have the same mods, but look shite, maybe down to a lack of budget, maybe down lack of skills

Within reason, I think people should be able to do as they wish with their cars and not be jumped on for it, I say within reason as there are peeps out there who really should leave modding to someone else

As for the mags, then I think if you have created something new or done exceptionally well, then the mags are NOT goint to miss the opportunity to feature it, it will get them readers after all.

I do remeber at the back of one of the mags, a red S2 on black imola's? with porsche brakes pictured at a show, and the mag asked the owner to get in touch, so it's not all a mate of a mate

Markb_s1

Chadyfunster... couldn't disagree more with what you've said to be honest. imo when something a bit different comes along then mags will definitely be up for featuring it. If you think there have been no one off amazing cars featured then you need to get your eyes checked mate.




I can't really agree with his either Steve... the cossie/RS turbo scene yes, but if you look at the older Fords you've got everything from mk1 escorts on 7x13s with stretched rubber bands and crossflows, to Al's castrol mk1, mk2s with standard arches, my gp2 arched zetec powered one, to dingy's car, to dave White's twin turbo V6 XXXX pack car... and that's just the escorts.. didnt' even mention the cortinas/anglias etc...

twinkle_2k86

Also remember not everyone who may have been spotted at a show etc wants there car plastered in a mag etc. So not all the top cars get to the papes.

Chip

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Chadyfunster.

IF you are so inteligent, why is that what you are saying isnt actually based on being able to understand simple concepts like FAST FORD DOES DO ALL THE THINGS YOU SAY YOU WANT?

They reguarly feature very innovative cars (skyline gearbox in that 800bhp escort cosworth last month for example) and they most certainly do not shy away from cars with engine conversions.

They can however only actually feature cars that exist in the first place, so they are limited by what happens in the scene in general, they cant feature a twin helicopter engined xr2 speedboat if it hasnt been made in the first place!

IF you know of a car that you think they should feature but havent done so, then PM Simon@FastFord and im sure he will be VERY pleased to hear from you and will take on board your suggestion.

IF you do NOT know of such a car, then just shut the fuck up cause if there arent any cars out there that fit what you want to see in a mag, then how the fuck are they supposed to feature something that doesnt exist

Arfur

Mark, the classic Ford scene is even more of a closed shop. How many more cars do we need to see with the South London or Group 4 look? It's been done to death! And then done again!

Simon

Stavros

Im building a nuclear powered 5door Mk6 Escort Si with a Boeing 747 bodykit, ski's instead of wheels, side pipes, chromed jag IRS rear end, and a murial of a skull headed murmaid riding a harley down the devils tail on the bonnet.

Its gonna be innovative.

chadyfunster

maybe cos like i said people wont build anything different or voice a different opinion due to insults ie fuck off

people like you would just would piss on their party

differnt can become normal

like stavros said the scene is the same as ten years ago