lukeytheduke

Morning all,

its well documented about tuners in the uk, and their credentials, however, if hypertheticly speaking someone took their motor to them and said i have 10k for you to make this into a very fast track/road car, who would you first phone?

I know you cant have a good track car and a good road car but a good comprise is hypertheticly what im after.

Please can someone advise me or tuners feel free to PM me with their answers.

I am not online mon-fri as changed jobs and this does not have the internet available for me.

Many Thanks for your time.

P.S this 10k has to include box clutch diff etc etc. NO particular speak in mind as of yet, if you have some ideas then please let me know. My car is 1989 2wd with a good solid shell.

Cheers

Luke

My Mobile is 077952 46105 if you want to speak to me, no pranks

lukeytheduke

someone please!! or do not big spec cossie owners tuners go on PF at the weekend!

dovboy

what does your car have done at the moment?

4x4 ste

iTrader: (1)

It all depends on what you term as big spec because if you want 500 plus bhp 10 k will be spent on a decent engine and not much else

lukeytheduke

just stage 1 mate, nothing special

lukeytheduke

would that include engine ancilleries such as turbo etc etc?

dovboy

if its a fast track car you want its not the engine you should be doing

bigal1978

buy ryans engine in the for sale bit that will help alot

4x4 ste

iTrader: (1)

Yeah most likely to get most of em but to be honest why dont you buy a car thet is mostly done and if it needs an engine freshen up it would work out cheeper to do that than start from scratch

lukeytheduke

yer i seen that for sale , but would like to speak to the builder

smitsturbo

if i had a cossie & i was in your situation i would speek to julian godfrey as i remember reading some where that he does very good deals for roundabout the 10K mark he does built race cars but he must make drivable ones also,

http://www.racetuners.com/

lukeytheduke

cheers smit, ill give him a bell in a bit. any ideas on what these deals are???

dovboy

10k on an engine tho will give you an engine that the car can't cope with.
think handling and braking ,then whats left spend on some milder tuning or picking up a good deal on a built engine.
to go from stage one to 500 bhp is quite a step in a rwd car if you are not used to it. late 300's or 400bhp would be a better start

lukeytheduke

Thanks for your concern mate and understand where your coming from but ill be fine. Thats what i mean though, six pots will set me back 1.5k diff 1k gearbox no idea, 2.5k?

dovboy

you will be dead if you dont buy at least big front brakes and coilovers

Physio

I'd pay Dom (Jap crap) off here 5k for his 444bhp engine built by Harvey Gibbs

& spend the other 5k on bits for your house etc

OR bigger brakes & good suspension set up

dovboy

good standart t5 will last a while ,diff will too but will need upgraded at some point

lukeytheduke

i did say originally that the 10k will have to include everything, unles si forget to type that bit!!I spoke to Mike about six pots about a month ago, and danny B will sort me out with everything else, (if i ask nicely) lol

4x4 ste

iTrader: (1)

To give you an idea:
6 pots Ł1500
Coilovers Ł1100
Diff Ł1000
Radiator Ł250
Intercooler Ł350
Clutch Ł350
Gauges Ł250
Fuel pumps Ł300
braided lines Ł200
Re-map Ł500


Theres nearly 6k then theres the engine gearbox and fitting plus cage if you want one

smitsturbo

just try buy every thing second hand, im sure if you look all over the forums & ebay there are loads of stuff to be found, plus you dont lose as much if you come to sell it or break it

dovboy

if 10k includes everything then i will not have to worry about you in a 500bhp car!!

lukeytheduke

that was just a hyperthetical question mate

Chip

iTrader: (3)

If I had 10K to turn a stnadard car into a track car I would spend maybe 3K tops on the engine, and that would basically be to get it to a good stage 3 setup and a very good service (including things like head gasket), Id spend nothing at all on the gearbox if its working ok, get a paddle clutch.
Decent diff, decent rear beam, coilovers, and a really good set of brakes and a set of 888 tyres or similar

Nash

iTrader: (3)

Phone Mark at MAD then. TBH if i hadn't already bought all my bits for my new enign then i would have Ryans one.

You then have Ł6.5k buy the turbo and all ther other bits you will need to run that sport of power.

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Actually everything above is a lie, if I had free choice I would sell the saph for 5K and spend 15K on a lotus or caterham that was already track prepped probably, LOL

lukeytheduke

always the optimist chip

Nash

iTrader: (3)

The thing is Chip a man once said 'Some people have an illness that makes them like shitty old Fords'

dovboy

fords are like the mafia,,just when you think you can get out it pulls you back in again

it might be a good idea to take you money and run while you still can!!

lukeytheduke

i cant mate, the more i stay away the more it pulls me in!

Dan

DON'T start with a Saph then FFS!

Your 10k should go on suspension, brakes and a new rear beam and arms for a start!

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

Sell yours and buy this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Big-Powered-3-...QQcmdZViewItem

Steve.

Nash

iTrader: (3)

I think what you need to do is sit down and have a good think about what you want to do with the car.

Eg: I want mine for trackdays and fast road use, so i decided that instead of going for 500bhp+ i would go for around 400bhp. Then concentrate on the suspension set up, Brakes, Diffs etc.

Dan

That is gonna be good round a track is it when the guy says he can't keep it in a straight line!?

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

Maybe he can't drive

Chip

iTrader: (3)

I think the KEY thing here is to get your head round the fact that round track a 330bhp saph with the right suspension will wipe the floor with a 500bhp saph that doesnt have, and more importantly, it wont break doing it!

Mr Whippy

Nah, keep the saph for the road and buy this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/175957.htm

As if you try to use the same car to do everything, there will be too many compramises.

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

Sounds the best idea

Steve.

Mr Whippy

Or this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/142771.htm

89xr2

Speak to Mike Rainbird about what a saph needs to make it handle well. Then you'll know exactly how much that will all cost. It's all been posted before with all the costs etc. Best place to start IMO.

lukeytheduke

they just dont appeal to me, i want to keep to a saph