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Smoking whilst driving.........
Looks like its made it into the new highway code as an an advisory for smokers to take care whilst driving.
How long till you think it'll actually be banned altogether then!?!?!
If it causes one less accident or even one near miss than it cant be a bad idea in my opinion.
I wonder how many accidents have been caused by smoking in cars?
How long till you think it'll actually be banned altogether then!?!?!
If it causes one less accident or even one near miss than it cant be a bad idea in my opinion.
I wonder how many accidents have been caused by smoking in cars?
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i would guess lots... they take their eyes off the road whilst lighting it! if its with matches then you have to use 2 hands! then if you drop it... it goes straight into your lap... how distracting is that?
the problem is then how much would road rage rise? its an un-known quantity...
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
the problem is then how much would road rage rise? its an un-known quantity...
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
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Originally Posted by nilrem
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
I must say though its going to be strange going into a pub that smells normal, and especially coming home to find your clothes smelling as fresh as a daisy!!!!
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Better ban radio's, sat nav, kids, passengers and anything else that causes distractions then
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
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Originally Posted by S1rst
I must say though its going to be strange going into a pub that smells normal, and especially coming home to find your clothes smelling of puke, curry and piss!!!!
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well its illegal eat and drive so whats the fooking difference of puting a white smokey stick in your mouth and with the smoke getting in your eyes
smoking should also be band while driving also imo
smoking should also be band while driving also imo
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Originally Posted by nilrem
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
I must say though its going to be strange going into a pub that smells normal, and especially coming home to find your clothes smelling as fresh as a daisy!!!!
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Originally Posted by DRE1983
Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by nilrem
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
I must say though its going to be strange going into a pub that smells normal, and especially coming home to find your clothes smelling as fresh as a daisy!!!!
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Better ban radio's, sat nav, kids, passengers and anything else that causes distractions then
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
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Originally Posted by Graham S1
Originally Posted by Ratty
Better ban radio's, sat nav, kids, passengers and anything else that causes distractions then
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
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Smoking IS banned in company owned vehicles when the national ban applies.
However the fine for not having a No Smoking sticker in the Van / car is greater than being caught smoking
Smoking in van / car Ł50 to Ł1000 fine
Not displaying sticker Ł200 to Ł1500 fine
NOT PREVENTING SMOKING IN A SMOKE FREE ENVIROMENT (i.e workplace or Vehicle ) Ł2500 fine
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However the fine for not having a No Smoking sticker in the Van / car is greater than being caught smoking
Smoking in van / car Ł50 to Ł1000 fine
Not displaying sticker Ł200 to Ł1500 fine
NOT PREVENTING SMOKING IN A SMOKE FREE ENVIROMENT (i.e workplace or Vehicle ) Ł2500 fine
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Some insurance companies even offer lower premiums to non-smokers.
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Some insurance companies even offer lower premiums to non-smokers.
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IMHO smoking a cigarette disables your hands more than chatting on a handheld mobile phone, as if I have a mobile in my hand and I need to get my hand back on the wheel I can drop it into my lap no problem, but with a cigarette you cant.
Its a mockery that chatting to someone in the car whilst you smoke a fag is legal, but that chatting on a handheld mobile isnt.
Its a mockery that chatting to someone in the car whilst you smoke a fag is legal, but that chatting on a handheld mobile isnt.
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Im not fussed if its banned in cars or not really. Only complaint i have is that the previous owner(s) of my escort smoked, and its stained the roof lining, and sunroof glass, murder to clean up! but thats obviously their own preference, which they are entitled to in my opinion.
As for the smoking ban, it has been in force here in scotland for a while now, and I LOVE it. Pubs are fresher, cleaner and a better atmosphere in general. Best thing to have happend for a long time i rekon!
As for the smoking ban, it has been in force here in scotland for a while now, and I LOVE it. Pubs are fresher, cleaner and a better atmosphere in general. Best thing to have happend for a long time i rekon!
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Fag back in gob - hand on wheel
Fag in hand - hand on wheel
Fag out window into bikers face - hand on wheel
Not a real problem
Fag in hand - hand on wheel
Fag out window into bikers face - hand on wheel
Not a real problem
It takes longer to do any of those things than to just "drop" a mobile.
So its a nonsense that least dangerous of the two is banned IMHO
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Originally Posted by RS500/364
The new law makes it ileagal to smoke in company cars
One thing that really annoys me is people who flick them out the window when your behind them. One hit me the other day when i was on the bike!!!
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Originally Posted by Coldo
As for the smoking ban, it has been in force here in scotland for a while now, and I LOVE it. Pubs are fresher, cleaner and a better atmosphere in general. Best thing to have happend for a long time i rekon!
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Better ban radio's, sat nav, kids, passengers and anything else that causes distractions then
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
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here a spanner in the works for them, your not allowed to smoke at work right.
But what about people who visit people at home in their job, it's no the home owners place of work, they can smoke?
Smoking in cars can be dangerous, lighting it, trying to get it out of the window at high speed
hot ash in the eye, but the best is the attempted flick out of the window, that hits the window and falls onto your lap or into the back of the car
I smoke in my car, wouldn't car if I couldn't unless it was a long journey
But what about people who visit people at home in their job, it's no the home owners place of work, they can smoke?
Smoking in cars can be dangerous, lighting it, trying to get it out of the window at high speed
hot ash in the eye, but the best is the attempted flick out of the window, that hits the window and falls onto your lap or into the back of the car
I smoke in my car, wouldn't car if I couldn't unless it was a long journey
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Originally Posted by matts1
here a spanner in the works for them, your not allowed to smoke at work right.
But what about people who visit people at home in their job, it's no the home owners place of work, they can smoke?
Smoking in cars can be dangerous, lighting it, trying to get it out of the window at high speed
hot ash in the eye, but the best is the attempted flick out of the window, that hits the window and falls onto your lap or into the back of the car
I smoke in my car, wouldn't car if I couldn't unless it was a long journey
But what about people who visit people at home in their job, it's no the home owners place of work, they can smoke?
Smoking in cars can be dangerous, lighting it, trying to get it out of the window at high speed
hot ash in the eye, but the best is the attempted flick out of the window, that hits the window and falls onto your lap or into the back of the car
I smoke in my car, wouldn't car if I couldn't unless it was a long journey
plus with the company car, you are allowed to smoke in the car driving to, from work and during the weekends, but as soon as you arrive at work, or 'start' work at what ever time you do, then you cannot... but who is gonna pull you over for smoking on the motorway... you could say you were on a break... too many loop holes...
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Originally Posted by matts1
here a spanner in the works for them, your not allowed to smoke at work right.
But what about people who visit people at home in their job, it's no the home owners place of work, they can smoke?
Smoking in cars can be dangerous, lighting it, trying to get it out of the window at high speed
hot ash in the eye, but the best is the attempted flick out of the window, that hits the window and falls onto your lap or into the back of the car
I smoke in my car, wouldn't car if I couldn't unless it was a long journey
But what about people who visit people at home in their job, it's no the home owners place of work, they can smoke?
Smoking in cars can be dangerous, lighting it, trying to get it out of the window at high speed
hot ash in the eye, but the best is the attempted flick out of the window, that hits the window and falls onto your lap or into the back of the car
I smoke in my car, wouldn't car if I couldn't unless it was a long journey
plus with the company car, you are allowed to smoke in the car driving to, from work and during the weekends, but as soon as you arrive at work, or 'start' work at what ever time you do, then you cannot... but who is gonna pull you over for smoking on the motorway... you could say you were on a break... too many loop holes...
Try stopping me, it's my house, if I wanna smoke I will.
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no... if its an arranged visit, so say a doctor or social worker or a nurse... a random cold caller can go lick their own balls before they can stop you...
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by Ratty
Better ban radio's, sat nav, kids, passengers and anything else that causes distractions then
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
I know lets all follow a man with a red flag
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Ratty
Fag back in gob - hand on wheel
Fag in hand - hand on wheel
Fag out window into bikers face - hand on wheel
Not a real problem
Fag in hand - hand on wheel
Fag out window into bikers face - hand on wheel
Not a real problem
It takes longer to do any of those things than to just "drop" a mobile.
So its a nonsense that least dangerous of the two is banned IMHO
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Originally Posted by KregRS
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Ratty
Fag back in gob - hand on wheel
Fag in hand - hand on wheel
Fag out window into bikers face - hand on wheel
Not a real problem
Fag in hand - hand on wheel
Fag out window into bikers face - hand on wheel
Not a real problem
It takes longer to do any of those things than to just "drop" a mobile.
So its a nonsense that least dangerous of the two is banned IMHO
Whats bollocks?
That it takes more time to put a fag out of the window than to just let go of a phone?
The ONLY reason they havent banned smoking while driving is they are worried it will lose them votes and they are all FAR more worried about getting re-elected than they are about saving lives.
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Originally Posted by nilrem
i would guess lots... they take their eyes off the road whilst lighting it! if its with matches then you have to use 2 hands! then if you drop it... it goes straight into your lap... how distracting is that?
the problem is then how much would road rage rise? its an un-known quantity...
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
the problem is then how much would road rage rise? its an un-known quantity...
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
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Originally Posted by allbluepete
Originally Posted by nilrem
i would guess lots... they take their eyes off the road whilst lighting it! if its with matches then you have to use 2 hands! then if you drop it... it goes straight into your lap... how distracting is that?
the problem is then how much would road rage rise? its an un-known quantity...
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
the problem is then how much would road rage rise? its an un-known quantity...
btw.. i dont hate smokers... i just prefer to be smoke free and i cant wait until july the 1st!!!
Thats just a short term thing, in the long run its definately for the best IMHO
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Originally Posted by Coldo
Im not fussed if its banned in cars or not really. Only complaint i have is that the previous owner(s) of my escort smoked, and its stained the roof lining, and sunroof glass, murder to clean up! but thats obviously their own preference, which they are entitled to in my opinion.
As for the smoking ban, it has been in force here in scotland for a while now, and I LOVE it. Pubs are fresher, cleaner and a better atmosphere in general. Best thing to have happend for a long time i rekon!
As for the smoking ban, it has been in force here in scotland for a while now, and I LOVE it. Pubs are fresher, cleaner and a better atmosphere in general. Best thing to have happend for a long time i rekon!
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It ain't the smoking, putting the butt out or lighting thats a problem, its rolling the buggers whilst going around roundabouts with me phone under my ear that I find hard
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Have you guys ever driven with a cigarette?
You cannot argue this if you haven't. You're being like this shit government by condemming it unsafe etc. etc.
How many of you drive with one hand on the wheel? I do, I know almost 90% of road users do. Who drives with the window down a bit, who picks their nose? who bites their nails, who looks around whilst driving?
Having a cigarette lit whilst driving is easy, lets face it, I only smoke and the majority only smoke on long journeys or smoke whilst on a motorway or A road. Thus making your empty hand useful.
Chatting on a mobile is in a different league. For starters you have to hide it from the law because if you get caught you get your pants pulled down. Second of all you cannot talk whilst turning a wheel with a big object in your hand. Thirdly you're put off by trying to concentrate on what the other person is saying.
None of these facts apply whilst smoking. I can turn a wheel with a cig in my hand anyday, any car, any situation. Failing that, it goes in my mouth and believe it or not your eyes and nose can get used to the sensation of smoke. The chances of dropping a fag are slim also. I have only once, due to me being a prat. But then accidents do happen don't they, or I suppose they weren't paying attention and the smoke and ash was in their eyes and lap.
Its not a problem for me, just like speeding isn't.
You cannot argue this if you haven't. You're being like this shit government by condemming it unsafe etc. etc.
How many of you drive with one hand on the wheel? I do, I know almost 90% of road users do. Who drives with the window down a bit, who picks their nose? who bites their nails, who looks around whilst driving?
Having a cigarette lit whilst driving is easy, lets face it, I only smoke and the majority only smoke on long journeys or smoke whilst on a motorway or A road. Thus making your empty hand useful.
Chatting on a mobile is in a different league. For starters you have to hide it from the law because if you get caught you get your pants pulled down. Second of all you cannot talk whilst turning a wheel with a big object in your hand. Thirdly you're put off by trying to concentrate on what the other person is saying.
None of these facts apply whilst smoking. I can turn a wheel with a cig in my hand anyday, any car, any situation. Failing that, it goes in my mouth and believe it or not your eyes and nose can get used to the sensation of smoke. The chances of dropping a fag are slim also. I have only once, due to me being a prat. But then accidents do happen don't they, or I suppose they weren't paying attention and the smoke and ash was in their eyes and lap.
Its not a problem for me, just like speeding isn't.
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
The chances of dropping a fag are slim also. I have only once
a) be bad for your health due to the fact you are smoking
b) in situations such as yours be potentially dangerous while you try and concentrate on removing the lit fag you just dropped from your bollocks
Thats a reasonabley sound argument against smoking while driving.
Is there a counter argument that anyone wants to put forward as to why its a positive thing?
If not, then I fail to see why its even up for discussion TBH