ZVH cossie management conversion??
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My brothers mate is after a bit of info on how to put cossie management onto his 2.1 ZVH turbo.The Engine is going into an xr3i, so he is using the EFI manifold off that
So far, and I don't really know much about RS turbos
, the bits we have come up with that he will need are:
1) L6/ 8 / P8 ECU.
2) Cossie engine loom
3) Cossie throttle body
4) Cossie sensors- Water temp, Aircharge temp, ISCV, TPS, AMAL valve.
5) Crank sensor+ trigger wheel- whats the best way to do this?
6) Phase sensor + trigger- Best way to do this? If he gets a hybrid dizzy then I assume it is covered in this, but If he were to run MSD's wasted spark driver, where would the feed come from? Cam trigger ?
Do you need a cossie fan swich, can't remember if they are ECU controlled or not
Can an L6 ECU run Closed loop or is it only L8?
Do you need to fit a cossie rev counter or will a 3i one take a cossie management signal?
Lots of questions, sorry, thanks for any info
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So far, and I don't really know much about RS turbos
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1) L6/ 8 / P8 ECU.
2) Cossie engine loom
3) Cossie throttle body
4) Cossie sensors- Water temp, Aircharge temp, ISCV, TPS, AMAL valve.
5) Crank sensor+ trigger wheel- whats the best way to do this?
6) Phase sensor + trigger- Best way to do this? If he gets a hybrid dizzy then I assume it is covered in this, but If he were to run MSD's wasted spark driver, where would the feed come from? Cam trigger ?
Do you need a cossie fan swich, can't remember if they are ECU controlled or not
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Can an L6 ECU run Closed loop or is it only L8?
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Do you need to fit a cossie rev counter or will a 3i one take a cossie management signal?
Lots of questions, sorry, thanks for any info
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doesn't matter if you have dizzy or wasted spark coilpack ignition, the ecu still needs the phase sensor just the same. all the phase sensor does is run at half the crank speed so that the ecu knows which stroke it is on. the ecu needs to know that for the sequential fuel injection. so it can run of anything that runs at half crankshaft speed, such as a camshaft.
i would not piss about with dizzys at all. go wasted spark and run the phase sensor off a cam. if you have a zetec engine as a donor for the block, don't they come with a phase sensor already that you can adapt?
and fans are not ecu controlled - on a cossie there is a switch in the rad that switches a relay in the fusebox
i would not piss about with dizzys at all. go wasted spark and run the phase sensor off a cam. if you have a zetec engine as a donor for the block, don't they come with a phase sensor already that you can adapt?
and fans are not ecu controlled - on a cossie there is a switch in the rad that switches a relay in the fusebox
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
i would not piss about with dizzys at all. go wasted spark and run the phase sensor off a cam. if you have a zetec engine as a donor for the block, don't they come with a phase sensor already that you can adapt?
You should fit an adjustable trigger setup that is available for any engine setup including the YB.
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Originally Posted by Versus_Creations
As above the best way is using a coil pack and a phase setup that can control the system to its exact requirements via the ECU. The Zetec cam sensor will not do this using a weber ECU in std form.
You should fit an adjustable trigger setup that is available for any engine setup including the YB.![Smokin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smokin.gif)
You should fit an adjustable trigger setup that is available for any engine setup including the YB.
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all the phase sensor needs to do is tell the ecu what phase the engine is in, i.e if piston 1 is going up, is it on the compression stroke or the exhaust stroke
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by Versus_Creations
As above the best way is using a coil pack and a phase setup that can control the system to its exact requirements via the ECU. The Zetec cam sensor will not do this using a weber ECU in std form.
You should fit an adjustable trigger setup that is available for any engine setup including the YB.![Smokin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smokin.gif)
You should fit an adjustable trigger setup that is available for any engine setup including the YB.
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all the phase sensor needs to do is tell the ecu what phase the engine is in, i.e if piston 1 is going up, is it on the compression stroke or the exhaust stroke
The reason my system is adjustable is so that you can set it 100% for what ever engine setup you have. The system i offer is not fixed and requires adjustment untill the correct position is set!
Hope that helps you understand what i am talking about.
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Jano
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right, i sort of understand it now
sounds good, hopefully it can be well locked in position and won't slip?
it's only a phase sensor though, doesn't need to be very accurate
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sounds good, hopefully it can be well locked in position and won't slip?
it's only a phase sensor though, doesn't need to be very accurate
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