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Old 16-06-2007 | 06:18 PM
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Had mine 4 years and for 3 of those it was stage 3 and now running 400s and up to 29psi. Have driven it every weekend ( often very hard ) including running it up the strip on several occasions. the engine runs as sweet as the day it was built ( 25,000 miles ago ) Its even been used as my daily hack when my daily car broke! 2 diffs and 1 clutch and general sevicing is all ive done. Tired of people slating them as if they are built well and driven properly they are as reliable as the best out there.

This is just my opinion as every day i read one post or another about how unreliable they are.

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that wrecks me too i've had 2 my saff hade 130k on the clock and never had a rebuild i put it to stage 1 running 18psi for a year and not one problem i bet its still going strong h620gej where are you and my ecos now is still like new 47k and still makes 257.5 bhp 265 lb ft @ 14psi there as good as you treat them at the end of the day
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Thing is, if they are left standard then they would probably be perfectly fine! lol

had mine about a year and a half, all it ever wanted was a new battery one day... that and oil of course
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Sinc i done a top end rebuild on mine around 4 mnths ago , its not missed a beat and used most days , i honestly hardy go under the bonnet any more other than a quick oil check and a clean tbh its going great at the moment
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Had mine 4 years and for 3 of those it was stage 3 and now running 400s and up to 29psi. Have driven it every weekend ( often very hard ) including running it up the strip on several occasions. the engine runs as sweet as the day it was built ( 25,000 miles ago ) Its even been used as my daily hack when my daily car broke! 2 diffs and 1 clutch and general sevicing is all ive done. Tired of people slating them as if they are built well and driven properly they are as reliable as the best out there.

This is just my opinion as every day i read one post or another about how unreliable they are.

Stacey
most that are unreliable are due to the chav owner not being able to afford to run it properly
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well done on bringing this up, i started to think i was the only one that had a good one.
used every day for the last year, never let me down!!!
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Buy a decent car to start with and maintain it regular and it will last, buy a nail and continually spend on fixing it, i imagine its the difference between a Ł3k car and a Ł6k car
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I've been very lucky with my car, its got excellent history and has been looked after. I think half the problem is people doing DIY rebuilds and also not getting them setup.
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I've been very lucky with my car, its got excellent history and has been looked after.
Me too m8.
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used mine everyday for three years and never ever let me down.
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Had mine 4 years and for 3 of those it was stage 3 and now running 400s and up to 29psi. Have driven it every weekend ( often very hard ) including running it up the strip on several occasions. the engine runs as sweet as the day it was built ( 25,000 miles ago ) Its even been used as my daily hack when my daily car broke! 2 diffs and 1 clutch and general sevicing is all ive done. Tired of people slating them as if they are built well and driven properly they are as reliable as the best out there.

This is just my opinion as every day i read one post or another about how unreliable they are.

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most that are unreliable are due to the chav owner not being able to afford to run it properly
Absolutely correct. Same with all the RS Turbo whingers who buy a snotter, rag the arse out of it and then complain it's unreliable.

If you can't afford to either buy a good one in the first place or buy a snotter and rebuild, then maintain it properly then you can't afford the car. It really is that simple.
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Good post.

Had mine for 14 years without major problem (7 of them with stage 3).

Its how you drive and treat them that matters.
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Had mine 4 years and for 3 of those it was stage 3 and now running 400s and up to 29psi. Have driven it every weekend ( often very hard ) including running it up the strip on several occasions. the engine runs as sweet as the day it was built ( 25,000 miles ago ) Its even been used as my daily hack when my daily car broke! 2 diffs and 1 clutch and general sevicing is all ive done. Tired of people slating them as if they are built well and driven properly they are as reliable as the best out there.

This is just my opinion as every day i read one post or another about how unreliable they are.

Stacey
most that are unreliable are due to the chav owner not being able to afford to run it properly

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Like any car, you get good ones and bad ones. If you abuse and neglect any car its going to cost you. If you look after it and maintain it propery, then the car will be kinder to your pocket in the long run.
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also depends on how good the garage is that re-builds it
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And, i can't stress this enough - the daily driven ones are the most reliable by far. I think it's because we pay attention to the more mundane things. and not shiny strut braces..
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Most cheap Cossie's are nail's, some people think their getting a bargain buying one for Ł3500 4k or so which just needs a few bits doing to it it normally works out cheaper in the long run to buy a well looked after one with has been properly maintained with all the reciepts for proof, you might lay out 6 or 7k for a Sapphire but it works out cheaper in the long run.

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I paid 2.5k for my 2wd saph because it was all i could afford but it has been reliable its a little scruffy but never been welded 125k miles never had the head off{it does use a bit of water though}and i love it and i do my best to buy whatever it needs it was cheap but not a bad car
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ok so you say that there are reliable cars


now if thats true why do so many get advertised as being rebuilt ????


they are OLD cars now,,,, most are nailed everyday from the moment they get started and so many owners claim to look after them but talk shite and bodge them or use them when theres a issue

they are NOT reliable cars as say a 1.25 fiesta though and if you think they are your just full of shite

no performance cars are reliable as the owners drive them generally harder than most car drivers and that affects the life time of them

the main thing with cossies though is when they do fail they cost ALOT of money to repair and so people nail them back to working,, rad weld or change the head gasket them selves and dont skim them as they dont know a machine shop local ect

my cossie never missed a beat if im honest then what happened was it did gain problem that nobody knew what it was,,,, so i took it apart and changed everything so i wouldnt ahve issues again

they aint reliable though in the sence that if you used it everyday that you wouldnt need to spend any money on it over a year due to something needing doing wheres my bmw ive done a water pump for 30 quid and ive done 15k miles in it, 11 laps of the ring and nailed the arse off is every day and its got 150k miles on it on the original engine./clutch/rad/gearbox/diff/head gasket

thats a reliable engine,,, soon nas you replace a part of the car the word "reliable" goes out the window
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Had mine 4 years and for 3 of those it was stage 3 and now running 400s and up to 29psi. Have driven it every weekend ( often very hard ) including running it up the strip on several occasions. the engine runs as sweet as the day it was built ( 25,000 miles ago ) Its even been used as my daily hack when my daily car broke! 2 diffs and 1 clutch and general sevicing is all ive done. Tired of people slating them as if they are built well and driven properly they are as reliable as the best out there.

This is just my opinion as every day i read one post or another about how unreliable they are.

Stacey

how can it be reliable if the engine had to be rebuilt ???

it done 2 diffs,,,, sorry but my old man in all his driving experience aint ever done a diff,,, hes WORN a clutch out,,,, on a car with 80k miles,,,, how long did you have your clutch ?

you owned it 4 years and never changed a lower arm, wheel bearing, REA BRAKE CALIPER !!!, suspention, bushes, boost hose, rad ect

how many miles have you done in it over 4 years at 29psi

and how do you drive it,,, as if you hold 29psi yet are to scared to drive it then it wont be as unreliable,,, as its not running any boost


oh my i sugest to look at the fuel pumps wiring as its a old car and alot of melting is down to this area failing,,,being that its never been replaced i sugest you look at the 15 year old wiring
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
ok so you say that there are reliable cars


now if thats true why do so many get advertised as being rebuilt ????


they are OLD cars now,,,, most are nailed everyday from the moment they get started and so many owners claim to look after them but talk shite and bodge them or use them when theres a issue

they are NOT reliable cars as say a 1.25 fiesta though and if you think they are your just full of shite

no performance cars are reliable as the owners drive them generally harder than most car drivers and that affects the life time of them

the main thing with cossies though is when they do fail they cost ALOT of money to repair and so people nail them back to working,, rad weld or change the head gasket them selves and dont skim them as they dont know a machine shop local ect

my cossie never missed a beat if im honest then what happened was it did gain problem that nobody knew what it was,,,, so i took it apart and changed everything so i wouldnt ahve issues again

they aint reliable though in the sence that if you used it everyday that you wouldnt need to spend any money on it over a year due to something needing doing wheres my bmw ive done a water pump for 30 quid and ive done 15k miles in it, 11 laps of the ring and nailed the arse off is every day and its got 150k miles on it on the original engine./clutch/rad/gearbox/diff/head gasket

thats a reliable engine,,, soon nas you replace a part of the car the word "reliable" goes out the window
Ginge - the latest Cossie is now 15 years old and will have well over 100k on it. It's a performance engine which as you say gets driven hard - so why wouldn't most have had a rebuild ? Don'tr mean the car was becoming unreliable or stopping, maybe people want more power and the old engine whilst being tred (but not unreliable) would benefit from it. If the cars been abused and neglected then it will be unreliable (as will ANY car).

So I fail to understand your arguement mate !
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Ginge, kind of disagree with you - but understand your point. I use the S2 partly because it is cheap motoring. I spend on it because i want to upgrade/improve really. The box is starting to go after 8 years, ive never knackered a clutch or engine. Done a head gasket becasue some monkey didnt connect the fan up and it boiled, and the rad burst years back cos it was old and knackered - but that can happen to anyone. Infact my Mum's Passat has let her down more times
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I understand Ginge's point too - but the BMW won't have had the life a Cosworth has..........might now as it's a nail but the BM wasn't built as a performance car whereas the Cosworth has. So 150k miles on a car that was driven normally for say 100k won't have the wear a 150k mile car that has been abused from probably 25k miles.
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my point was the cars are called unreliable as they are OLD,,, they fail cause when you mod stuff ( which makes that part new again,,, meaning it never had a chance to fail aswell) the old stuff on a 100k motor will fail

this makes the car unreliable,,,, but and this is the big thing !!!

normal engines can do 100k miles then require a head gasket,, cossies aint that lucky due to the nature of them,,, just like other performance cars as thats a weak point of a blow engine

they cost MORE when they go wrong though which is where people get confused when they slag them off for being reliable

steering U-J on a fiesta, 14 quid,,, cossie 90 quid,,,,,

the cossie like ALL fords do have design issue problems aswell,,, the rear brake calipers seize,,, its not a service item though

you way your ment to judge a reliable car is by the running costs x the time its in off the road to get repaired

rick whos cars cost more money over time ONTOP of the purchase cost,,, thats where they get the bad rep from

4k car that costs 3 times as much on fuel if used everyday, costs more for parts and then when it DOES fail the engine rebuild is more than half the amount to buy another one

when a 1000 quid car has a engine fail,, its scrapped and another bought or another car bought and " its a old car now" is allowed

cossies are no different, old cars but instead we throw money at them


bit like if a shop has a guy who keeps stealing,, you can either sack him and get another person or you can keep telling him " No, DONT DO THAT" and he keeps nicking anyway as hes bills cost more than he gets paied


ok not a good analagy but you get what i mean

when a car needs a 2k engine we should e scrapping them rather than rebuilding another one for a car thats still 15 years old unless we change all the other mechanicals aswell
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
I understand Ginge's point too - but the BMW won't have had the life a Cosworth has..........might now as it's a nail but the BM wasn't built as a performance car whereas the Cosworth has. So 150k miles on a car that was driven normally for say 100k won't have the wear a 150k mile car that has been abused from probably 25k miles.

not true mate, the bmw was designed to be driven at a higher speed and the car was speced to the power and the output matched to maintain it

when i boot the car its a relaxed acceleration,,, its not

fuck all fuck all fuck all,,,, BANG fuck me where off,,, argh,, better brake now,,,,, too much brake,,, fuck all fuck all fuck all,,,,,,, fuck em where off again


high spikes break things,,, driving it in second gear everwhere due to it being low comp and no power below boost will also have a effect on the car

saabs are a good example to compare them too imo,, they have turbos speced to the cars,, they have years of experience of fitting turbos and when they get too old and the turbos fail they get scrapped,, the owners dont fit a BIGGER turbo to the old engine and the add MORE strain on it then get pissed when that fails ,,, the owners also take them to a saab specialist rather than a bloke whos got a few mates with turbos and so calls himself a specialist

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Had mine 4 years and for 3 of those it was stage 3 and now running 400s and up to 29psi. Have driven it every weekend ( often very hard ) including running it up the strip on several occasions. the engine runs as sweet as the day it was built ( 25,000 miles ago ) Its even been used as my daily hack when my daily car broke! 2 diffs and 1 clutch and general sevicing is all ive done. Tired of people slating them as if they are built well and driven properly they are as reliable as the best out there.

This is just my opinion as every day i read one post or another about how unreliable they are.

Stacey

how can it be reliable if the engine had to be rebuilt ???

it done 2 diffs,,,, sorry but my old man in all his driving experience aint ever done a diff,,, hes WORN a clutch out,,,, on a car with 80k miles,,,, how long did you have your clutch ?

you owned it 4 years and never changed a lower arm, wheel bearing, REA BRAKE CALIPER !!!, suspention, bushes, boost hose, rad ect

how many miles have you done in it over 4 years at 29psi

and how do you drive it,,, as if you hold 29psi yet are to scared to drive it then it wont be as unreliable,,, as its not running any boost


oh my i sugest to look at the fuel pumps wiring as its a old car and alot of melting is down to this area failing,,,being that its never been replaced i sugest you look at the 15 year old wiring

Broke 1 diff on the line at the pod another just being silly by launching too hard on a hot dry day. Engine was rebuilt before i got the car and was fitted with 200 block. It has NEVER needed a lower arm , suspension bush , rear caliper , boost hose , wheel bearing etc the only reason it needed a clutch was because it was a 4 paddle and i sat on the line trying to slip it and 1 paddle welded to the flywheel so that was my fault also. this car gets a good seeing to at 29psi and is more reliable than my wifes bmw.
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4 years, driven hard and never had a caliper. wheel bearing or lower arm

?????


notice there was no mention of the milage this everyday car does each week ?


the average life of a wheel bearing is 3 years,,,,, so your is DEFFO a exception to the rule

rear calipers on the sierras/granadas where a MAJOR problem,, to not need one in 4 years,,,, well thats doing well too

oh and a engine rebuild,,, that makes it inreliable im afraid as my BMW aint ever had one,, bet the wifes bmw aint had one either nor did your dads car im sure when you was growing up

suspention is still standard too,,, and its 4 years old being used on stanta pod,, with original bushes,,,,, how well does it handle as for a 15 year old car it must handle like SHITE with all them OLD parts on it
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they are fooking unreliable!!
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what bills has the OTHER owner got on the car,, was he as lucky and had the car and just had a engine done to it ?


or did he change lots of stuff modding it to a high spec hence you dont ahve the problems
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what bills has the OTHER owner got on the car,, was he as lucky and had the car and just had a engine done to it ?


or did he change lots of stuff modding it to a high spec hence you dont ahve the problems
Think we have lost the plot a bit here . My car has had all the usual suspects changed/upgraded with folders full of reciepts ( all done by previous owner ) but my point was that since i have owned the car and done about 25,000 mile in 4 years it has been perfectly reliable.
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so its had shite loads of cash spent on it,, now its reliable


erm,,, im not missus the point as its cost the other owner money,,,, its not a reliable car is it

a reliable car dont cost money THROUGH OUT the life of the car,,,,, that how its called reliable

spending 4 times what its worth on NEW parts to make it reliable dont make the cossie reliable,,,,,, it needed all the parts changing to make it reliable

you seem to have triggers broom syndrome

and 25k miles is TWO YEARS milage over 4 years,,,, that also helps,,, considering cars are ment to last 60k miiles before you start to change parts,,,,,

belive it or not cossies where reliable when they was new too when look after,,,,, now 15 years and 100k miles on,, they seem to lack that
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had mine for around 4 years now and been running 350 and only had 1 or 2 gearbox but thats down to the way it is driven and has been the most reliable car i have had
most proplems is that the owner thinks they can just turn the boost up and go lol
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old car means unreliable

why dont people get this

preventative maintanace makes them reliable,,, but STILL makes em money pits !!!!

thats why they get the bad rep,, they cost alot of money to keep

i had a bloke complain that his mitsubishi needs 400 quids worth of parts alone to get through a MOT,,,, he said the price CANT be right as the car aint worth that

but the car was 35k new,,,, the parts he is buying is NEW,,, the value of the car aint worth fuck all cause the price of the parts are not cheep and with the age of the car its gonna be expected to spend money on the car


reliable cars can be done IF you are willing to spend the cash on them,, if you drive them till they fall apart then they WILL be unreliable

if you change parts on them BEFORE they fail it WILL be reliable but it will STILL cost you lots of money

thats where the bad reputation of the cossie comes from

either way the cars gonna cost you money,,, if you think you can buy a cossie and it NOT fail without you checking parts regular and buying new parts before it goes then you are a fool,,,, and you will be moaning that the cars are unreliable like everyone else
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My 3 door has had a few minor probs but people do forget there 20 plus years old now.

My gf's 4x4 saff is excellent, she has had it 2 1/2 years done 22k in it and all we have done is replaced the tappets and 3 oil changes


As said above ,its the people who bang the hell out of them everytime they drive it who moan they go wrong
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on a stage 3 they will last for yrs engine /box/diffs/shafts/ect

been there done that , when it was on the greens i never put a spanner on it for 5yrs untill i went more bhp

when i went 400 route i started breaking diff/gearbox /engines

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i wunt class old bmws as reliable either
engines cracked heads gasket problems
gearboxes and they need brake discs just bmw stuff is 10 a penny from euro car parts
and compare a cozzy in its day against a m3 cozzy was in a diffent league
sean spent a fortune on his m3 on 2 gearboxes and engine misfire problems but we sorted it in the end
all cars old and new need new parts fitting on service intervals
Old 16-06-2007 | 11:14 PM
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no its people who buy them NOT expecting to replace worn parts and wait for em to fail that moan there unreliable

just like criminals moan about the way there treated by the police and when people get caught cheated moan that they got no where to live as the missus kicked em out


its simple really though


cars cost money,, performace cars cost MORE money and OLD performance cars cost LOTS AND LOTS of money

dont buy a performance car if you wanna have cheep servicing

anyone can buy a ferrari,,,,, not main can maintain one for a long period of time and so sell them on before the big service !!!!
Old 16-06-2007 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
i wunt class old bmws as reliable either
engines cracked heads gasket problems
gearboxes and they need brake discs just bmw stuff is 10 a penny from euro car parts
and compare a cozzy in its day against a m3 cozzy was in a diffent league
sean spent a fortune on his m3 on 2 gearboxes and engine misfire problems but we sorted it in the end
all cars old and new need new parts fitting on service intervals

track use on cars causes alot of extra stress on a car though as you know

its like a drift car will need a clutch before my work van but do less miles

that wasnt the point though im sure
Old 16-06-2007 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
no its people who buy them NOT expecting to replace worn parts and wait for em to fail that moan there unreliable

just like criminals moan about the way there treated by the police and when people get caught cheated moan that they got no where to live as the missus kicked em out


its simple really though


cars cost money,, performace cars cost MORE money and OLD performance cars cost LOTS AND LOTS of money

dont buy a performance car if you wanna have cheep servicing

anyone can buy a ferrari,,,,, not main can maintain one for a long period of time and so sell them on before the big service !!!!
Well i wait for things to fail, im not going to replace something thats working!!! And whats a cossie got to do with criminals

Are you a stress head ??? Because you do rant alot



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