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that is true they may not be able to buy , but they will need to rent wich will surly be a massive rise in the buy to let market that will not ever crash unless the they all go home???
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
No......You won't get a house price crash. NEVER.
Annual Percentage Profits may not be what they have been, and the price rise will slow down a little, but they'll never crash.
REASON : Not enough houses for people as it is, so demand will keep them on the rise (Maybe not as much rise as previously, but they won't go down in price)....plus lots of Europeans moving to the UK, will keep the prices going up all the time.
Demand causes house prices to rise or fall, and at the moment the demand is for more houses than we currently have.
Get on the housing ladder as soon as you can.
In ten years I've made over 100k........that's 10k profit every year, and the best investment you can ever make.....Forget Stocks & Shares, get into the property market, at whatever price you can afford.
Annual Percentage Profits may not be what they have been, and the price rise will slow down a little, but they'll never crash.
REASON : Not enough houses for people as it is, so demand will keep them on the rise (Maybe not as much rise as previously, but they won't go down in price)....plus lots of Europeans moving to the UK, will keep the prices going up all the time.
Demand causes house prices to rise or fall, and at the moment the demand is for more houses than we currently have.
Get on the housing ladder as soon as you can.
In ten years I've made over 100k........that's 10k profit every year, and the best investment you can ever make.....Forget Stocks & Shares, get into the property market, at whatever price you can afford.
If they were to crash the economy would be completely ruined. Loads of people would be made bankrupt! Let’s face it since the crash in the 80's house prices have just reached what they should have been by now anyway!
So if people are waiting for a crash to get on the property ladder, you'll be waiting a long time I would have thought.
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I think most of the probs stem from it been way to easy to borrow money
When i bought my first house 10 years back the mortgage companys where well strict( 5 percent deposit and only 3 times your annual wage)
I got turned down by plenty of lenders
Now you can get 100% mortgage at 5 times your annual wage
I think if mortgage companys had still been strict then house prices wouldnt be as high( Because if peeps cant afford them, house prices would of stopped rising ages ago)
It would also help if Southern Investors stop coming up to our little northern towns and buying every property that comes on the market as investments
When i bought my first house 10 years back the mortgage companys where well strict( 5 percent deposit and only 3 times your annual wage)
I got turned down by plenty of lenders
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Now you can get 100% mortgage at 5 times your annual wage
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I think if mortgage companys had still been strict then house prices wouldnt be as high( Because if peeps cant afford them, house prices would of stopped rising ages ago)
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It would also help if Southern Investors stop coming up to our little northern towns and buying every property that comes on the market as investments
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that is true they may not be able to buy , but they will need to rent wich will surly be a massive rise in the buy to let market that will not ever crash unless the they all go home???
what you seem to forget is that most asylum seekers end up in the council system, thus meaning that a lot of British people who would normally be living in a council house can't get one or wait years, therefore they end up having to private rent or buy, this puts a lot of people right on the breadline.
what everway the population has always increased, the fact that 1500 odd imigrants a day (thats over 10,000 people a week
) come to this country dosn't help, how many homes are built a week!!
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what everway the population has always increased, the fact that 1500 odd imigrants a day (thats over 10,000 people a week
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House prices wont come down like!
We bought ours just over 2 years ago and although the market has settled down over last 2-3 years ours has still incresed by at least 10%
We bought ours just over 2 years ago and although the market has settled down over last 2-3 years ours has still incresed by at least 10%
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that is true they may not be able to buy , but they will need to rent wich will surly be a massive rise in the buy to let market that will not ever crash unless the they all go home???
what you seem to forget is that most asylum seekers end up in the council system, thus meaning that a lot of British people who would normally be living in a council house can't get one or wait years, therefore they end up having to private rent or buy, this puts a lot of people right on the breadline.
what everway the population has always increased, the fact that 1500 odd imigrants a day (thats over 10,000 people a week
) come to this country dosn't help, how many homes are built a week!!
this maybe very harsh and i feel sorry if this does put people on the bredline , i have no house and still live wit me parents cos i cant afford to buy , maybe i didt say what i mean - either way you look at it whoever is renting privately or coucil there is still abigger demand for propety than ever before and imiggrants and people from poland ,lithiania and the rest that can get work permits are gonna have an effect on the propety up or down , so i guess if its them or us who cant get a council house one or the other will have to rent . this is why i thought the may be a a lot of people who would still buy to let
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what everway the population has always increased, the fact that 1500 odd imigrants a day (thats over 10,000 people a week
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Originally Posted by st3v3
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the only way is up,Historicly speaking of coarse.
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The fact we have a load of immigrants will not stop the bubble from bursting.
£199,000 is the average figure at exhange - Feb, 2007.
Someone said the London market was deteriorating which is far from true. The Central London market grew by around 25% last year, due to wealthy foreigners investing and City bonuses.
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Originally Posted by Ex-Finesse
Someone said the London market was deteriorating which is far from true. The Central London market grew by around 25% last year, due to wealthy foreigners investing and City bonuses.
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unless the country goes into crisis i cant see it crashing, would take alot for it to crash
a war, a epedemic of disease etc!!
theres always a demand, and the people who cant afford to buy
HAVE TO LIVE
so they rent, so keeps people in that bussiness making money
a war, a epedemic of disease etc!!
theres always a demand, and the people who cant afford to buy
HAVE TO LIVE
so they rent, so keeps people in that bussiness making money
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Cant see it up here in Aberdeen really! Prices have EXPLODED since i bought my place 18months ago. If i sold today i'd probably make £90k profit! Not bad in only sucha short time
BUT, i cant stand people getting a hard on about what they have "made" when they try to sell and buy somewhere bigger thats gone up by same %
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BUT, i cant stand people getting a hard on about what they have "made" when they try to sell and buy somewhere bigger thats gone up by same %
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BUT, i cant stand people getting a hard on about what they have "made" when they try to sell and buy somewhere bigger thats gone up by same %
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Guy at work, his parents just sold up to move to Spain - bought their house 20yrs ago for something daft like £50k, just sold it for £350k, and bought a MASSIVE fuck off house in Spain for about £200k.....
I;ve been trying to convince my mum to sell her place and downsize. It's just her and my youngest sister now since my bro moved out 2yrs ago, I just moved out and my other sister has moved out. It's a 4 bed fully detatched, big garden, and currently stands at about £350-£360k - if she puts about £18-£20k into getting the roof redone and finishing the decorating, it's potentially worth £400k - not bad considering my parents bought it for £40k 26yrs ago!!!!! I reckon she should sort it, sell it and buy a place half the size with half the running costs!
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Someone said the London market was deteriorating which is far from true. The Central London market grew by around 25% last year, due to wealthy foreigners investing and City bonuses.
what a load of total and utter bollox !!!
houses OUT of london have risen over the las 4 years higher than london
i LIVE in london !!!
i OWN a property in london and i KNOW what they are worth
my property was worth 185k last year,,,,, i know its not worth 250K and my old mans house aint now worth 420k either
they have leveled and the only housing in london that are selling either need no work on em or are under 250k, the ones MORE than this aint going up
smaller places are going up like studios and 1 bedrooms ect,, there worth a few k short of mine cause there NO WHERE for same for my amount,,,, people either aint selling or when they are theres a list of 15 names waiting for em
the places in the estate agents windows are NOT selling in london
house buying is a little shite in london due to this,, you cant find a place worth buying if im honest or the place is over valued and needs more money spending on it ect
they aint gone up 25% ina year though EVER !!!!
its all bollox though cause NOBODY benifits from it aaprt from estate agents.banks and the government
i tried to sell my hosue as ive made a few quid out of it,, cant buy anything that wont cost twice as much as what i pay and give me LESS of a good location if im honest so im stuck here
if i buy a house i wanna own on my street then im gonna have to find 2 million
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Someone said the London market was deteriorating which is far from true. The Central London market grew by around 25% last year, due to wealthy foreigners investing and City bonuses.
houses OUT of london have risen over the las 4 years higher than london
i LIVE in london !!!
i OWN a property in london and i KNOW what they are worth
my property was worth 185k last year,,,,, i know its not worth 250K and my old mans house aint now worth 420k either
they have leveled and the only housing in london that are selling either need no work on em or are under 250k, the ones MORE than this aint going up
smaller places are going up like studios and 1 bedrooms ect,, there worth a few k short of mine cause there NO WHERE for same for my amount,,,, people either aint selling or when they are theres a list of 15 names waiting for em
the places in the estate agents windows are NOT selling in london
house buying is a little shite in london due to this,, you cant find a place worth buying if im honest or the place is over valued and needs more money spending on it ect
they aint gone up 25% ina year though EVER !!!!
its all bollox though cause NOBODY benifits from it aaprt from estate agents.banks and the government
i tried to sell my hosue as ive made a few quid out of it,, cant buy anything that wont cost twice as much as what i pay and give me LESS of a good location if im honest so im stuck here
if i buy a house i wanna own on my street then im gonna have to find 2 million
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Originally Posted by Thrush
Guy at work, his parents just sold up to move to Spain - bought their house 20yrs ago for something daft like £50k, just sold it for £350k, and bought a MASSIVE fuck off house in Spain for about £200k.....
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the old man bought a house in W4 way back in 75 for £10k
double fronted and all that sort of shit
2 weeks later he was offered £12k for it so he took it
but then again, the old man and both his brothers have always worked like cunts to pay cash money for all the houses they bought
in the years between 67 and 80 they bought one house in greenford, one hosue in hanwell, one hosue in west easling, another house in west ealing, another haouse in west ealing, the house in chiswik
2 of theses houses they sold to fund buying the others but when you think that the house they bought in 1980 for £20k in now worth closer to £700k thats a big increase
the house they bought where i grew up was £12k and it's now worth £350k
what people don't realise is that unless you bought 2 houses back in the day you cna't really flog one off and have loads of cash now because you'll have to buy soemthing for the same sort of money
my mate bought a house 3 months are having his £173k offer refused, and he ended up paying £200k for the same house
and just recently (after 4 years) he's bought the house next dorr and he had to pay £350k for it, plus another £50k to bring it up to normal living standards because it was owned and lived in by a single old granny who had pets
so prices on his road (west london) have doubled in 4 years
i've payed £280 for my house 2 years ago and the house just a few doors down has sold for £325k, so prices are still going up
the bubble won't burst but there are soo mnay peole who HAVE money from proerpty tha they are the only ones who will make a profit from this, everyone else is fucked
double fronted and all that sort of shit
2 weeks later he was offered £12k for it so he took it
but then again, the old man and both his brothers have always worked like cunts to pay cash money for all the houses they bought
in the years between 67 and 80 they bought one house in greenford, one hosue in hanwell, one hosue in west easling, another house in west ealing, another haouse in west ealing, the house in chiswik
2 of theses houses they sold to fund buying the others but when you think that the house they bought in 1980 for £20k in now worth closer to £700k thats a big increase
the house they bought where i grew up was £12k and it's now worth £350k
what people don't realise is that unless you bought 2 houses back in the day you cna't really flog one off and have loads of cash now because you'll have to buy soemthing for the same sort of money
my mate bought a house 3 months are having his £173k offer refused, and he ended up paying £200k for the same house
and just recently (after 4 years) he's bought the house next dorr and he had to pay £350k for it, plus another £50k to bring it up to normal living standards because it was owned and lived in by a single old granny who had pets
so prices on his road (west london) have doubled in 4 years
i've payed £280 for my house 2 years ago and the house just a few doors down has sold for £325k, so prices are still going up
the bubble won't burst but there are soo mnay peole who HAVE money from proerpty tha they are the only ones who will make a profit from this, everyone else is fucked
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what people don't realise is that unless you bought 2 houses back in the day you cna't really flog one off and have loads of cash now because you'll have to buy soemthing for the same sort of money
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my mam got 10 houses from my familys property business in her divorce settlement, way back in 1994.
now they have all rocketed in price so she has a good retirement fund and will be able to spoil her future grandchildren!
not that i get anything given
but ive always been very proud that i have worked for every penny i have and it will stay that way!!
now they have all rocketed in price so she has a good retirement fund and will be able to spoil her future grandchildren!
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not that i get anything given
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What has the 80s crash got to do with the current housing market?
Interest rates where sky high then, the economy was crashing etc etc.
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here?
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Interest rates where sky high then, the economy was crashing etc etc.
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here?
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My view is that although prices at the moment seem to be completely stupid, I dont think there will be a crash like the 80s.
The reason being I know so many people who want a house at the moment but dont have one, in the 80s that wasnt the case, anyone who wanted a house had 1, or 2 or 3, there were people buying houses and not even bothering to rent them out because they were going up in value so fast you could buy one, leave it empty for a year, do nothing with it, and then sell it on for a profit.
So the way I see it, there are no "unwanted" houses at the moment like there were back then, and there are people desperate to buy if the market dips a little, so I think if prices do come down they will relatively quickly stabilise again.
But ultimately, the truth is that no fucker really knows!
The reason being I know so many people who want a house at the moment but dont have one, in the 80s that wasnt the case, anyone who wanted a house had 1, or 2 or 3, there were people buying houses and not even bothering to rent them out because they were going up in value so fast you could buy one, leave it empty for a year, do nothing with it, and then sell it on for a profit.
So the way I see it, there are no "unwanted" houses at the moment like there were back then, and there are people desperate to buy if the market dips a little, so I think if prices do come down they will relatively quickly stabilise again.
But ultimately, the truth is that no fucker really knows!
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
thing is people are still buying and demand is still greater than supply escpically for certain types of houses in certain areas
I remember not so long ago that you often had to pay way over the asking price due to high demand. It now seems that people have to accept offers below the asking and many having to reduce them recently.
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
thing is people are still buying and demand is still greater than supply escpically for certain types of houses in certain areas
I remember not so long ago that you often had to pay way over the asking price due to high demand. It now seems that people have to accept offers below the asking and many having to reduce them recently.
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by Kev.H
thing is people are still buying and demand is still greater than supply escpically for certain types of houses in certain areas
I remember not so long ago that you often had to pay way over the asking price due to high demand. It now seems that people have to accept offers below the asking and many having to reduce them recently.
Its probably you and your mates with noisey old fords putting them all off
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
thing is people are still buying and demand is still greater than supply escpically for certain types of houses in certain areas
I remember not so long ago that you often had to pay way over the asking price due to high demand. It now seems that people have to accept offers below the asking and many having to reduce them recently.
Its probably you and your mates with noisey old fords putting them all off
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
Originally Posted by Ex-Finesse
Someone said the London market was deteriorating which is far from true. The Central London market grew by around 25% last year, due to wealthy foreigners investing and City bonuses.
houses OUT of london have risen over the las 4 years higher than london
i LIVE in london !!!
i OWN a property in london and i KNOW what they are worth
Prices in 2006 did rise substantially due to the afforementionned reasons. These increases were felt to a lesser extent in many of the areas surrounding Central London, where less wealthy people were priced out.
You may live in "London", whichever part that is, but I wouldn't profress to know everything purely on that basis.
One of clients I work closely with handled 24% of all exchanges in Mayfair last year... and Savills are currently trying to buy them out...
Let me assure you... places ARE selling
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I fooking hope not, me and the missus are now under going the process of buying are first place.
She's a mortgate advisor and no-one within the industry suspects there will be a crash but then who knows. I spent the last five yrs saying/thinking there will be one and have been seriously putting the whole subject off over the last two years but now I'm just glad I've hopped on the ladder as imo the prices will just keep rising, saying there will be one is just a good excuse for not getting on the ladder!
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Cant see it up here in Aberdeen really! Prices have EXPLODED since i bought my place 18months ago. If i sold today i'd probably make £90k profit! Not bad in only sucha short time
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People who buy second homes or property developers should pay 30% tax on houses.
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