since ive just had a considerable power increase, how long you recon my standard, high biting, light as fook clutch will last

i give it a week

 

id like to make bets on how long u wil keep this poor car in one peice

 

depends have you drive it, with a good few launches maybe a few days.

 

yeah how long till ya kill the poor thing

 

Mine bites high and is super light as well.... so does Efes. Does that mean ours are going to break as well

 

My Standard clutch did well, took my stage 1, then Stage 3 for over a year, then completely went when i tried racing a mate off the lights, forgot i was sat on shell grip

Al...

 

with its "considerable power increase" whats it pushing now jimbob???

or does it keep breaking down so you push it

 

You best not kill it before I've had a go Jimbo

 

Probably longer than your timing chain

 

steve, youre the next person booked in for "a go" tonight

fudgeass, its a secret (well, all you have to do is read other BBs actually... lol) but i think it would be acceptable to use the word "considerable" when discussing it. lets just say the nitrous jet has 3 digits on it

the best bit is that its not running nearly enough as it should be, and the bigger jets will be arriving with my nos bloke this week for me :P

 

what have you done now jim ? NOS ?

 

spadge, timing chain's all in hand, i have a cunning plan! but its a secret

 

Pleased to hear it Jim as i know these are a weak part of those Cossie V6's!
When i used to deal in motors i remeber letting someone go for a test drive on their own in a Granada Cosworth i was selling which had a slightly rattly chain. Ten minutes after he went out in it i got a call to say it had broken down on the A5! Turned out the chain had snapped destroying the engine

 

rattly chain? lol so it was fucked then basically coz they chains should not be noisy AT ALL... lol



lets just say that ive had my chain looked over, and theres nout wrong with it (and its certainly not the original one) and i have no intention of changing the chain on THIS ENGINE

 

I said slightly Jimbo!
The tensioner was probably a bit weak i guess but apparently they are a pig to replace?

 

fook me spadge there anything you aint sold

 

If the engine idling ok if not the tensioner is fooked, then thats end your engine in about 3 ,mins

 

I doubt it mate
I used to be an area manager for a window company and used to train reps to go and sit in peoples houses and not take no for answer Did that for 7 years but most of my working life i have been a motor trader

 

erm... just a bit

parts alone are about 200-300quid (inc. ford staff discount) and to change em you have to take the heads off (so budget about abother 200quid in gaskets, bolts etc. etc.

then theres the labour to dismantle the engine, fit the new chain+tensioners+guides etc. and then re-assemle

not forgetting the things that are likely to break when disturbed, maybe awaterpump or a thermostat housing or something more simple that'll need replacing.

so yes, its not a cheap job to get done

works out cheaper to replace the entire engine when i it breaks than it is to do the preventative manitenance in the 1st place :P

somebody who wanted to be extra extra sure would buy a 2nd engine, and rebuilt it properly and to a bigger spec inclusig all new bits that need to be new (like timing chains) and then fit this new engine when its all complete

 

Was it really a cost effective thing to buy that over a proper Cossie then Jim? It must owe you the price of a tidy 2wd Saff already

 

mmmmmm good point spadge

 

spadge, yes ive spent the same on the car (not inclusing buying it) as i could have got a cossie for. i even had enough money in my hand to buy a cossie

but i couldnt afford to insure one, and i couldnt afford to fix it if it broke, this one's more affordable to maintain (same to modify tho) and costs a SHITLOAD less to insure. and also my car is basically a cosworth, just with the different engine

in a few years perhaps i'll sell up and get a YB powered one, you never know... but if i did itd have to be about 350+ bhp and all the engine built up from new whilst i'd owned it

 

also spadge, with this rebuilt i'm not rushing into it and spending loadsa money... its gonna be done bit by bit whenever ive got a few quid knockin about... at the moments its just a spare engine sitting there complete incase its needed as i havent done ANYTHING to do... lol

 

is there anything he has sold that aint fuked

 

Jim it was only the early ones that were prone to chain failure, the later ones are ok

 

mine is an early single chain one... the twinchain ones were in the bugeyed scorpio

saying thats mine's the one with a double thickness chain in the later mk3s not the early really really thin chain jobbies

 

cool Jim, hope its all okay for you buddy, have some fun on the strip

 

Heads don't have to come off

Who told you that?

 

erm, the 3 workshop manuals i've look at...

how on earth can you get the chain out without taking them off?!

 

Dead easy. Have you got a scan of these manuals as I'm intrigued?

Before you think I'm taking the piss I've done the job on my own 24v without manuals. I'm not basing my info on something I read in Fast Ford.

 

If ur clutch cant handle the power wont it start sliping straight away?

 

guinless, how do you get the chain out/in with the heads in place? i cant see how you can physically pull the chain out towards you

 

Simple mate you just remove the sprockets and cams. There may be enough clearance to remove the cams with sprockets on but I didn't want to damage anything.

Done nearly 20k on mine since the job was done.

 

but then surely it then gets stuck on the bottom sprocket thingie (whatever its called) ?

im glad to hear its possible in situ tho but it'd be handy to know how

 

 

You need to drop the front crossmember[1] and remove the sump and timing cover. The the chain then just pulls through.

[1] The engine needs supporting properly during this stage with an engine support bar. No bits of wood please!