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Old 15-05-2007, 10:23 AM
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Whooo can tell whats up with these pistons by looking at them?








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Old 15-05-2007, 10:47 AM
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surely your not all daft???
Old 15-05-2007, 10:54 AM
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Could do with a clean

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Old 15-05-2007, 10:57 AM
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There's only 3 of them?
Old 15-05-2007, 10:57 AM
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thanks for that

your both wrong
Old 15-05-2007, 10:59 AM
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Got it
























They should be in your engine

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Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Got it
























They should be in your engine

Bri.


so THATS why the fucker wont run
Old 15-05-2007, 11:00 AM
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*Bri.4.b.Cos*

No there is a good reason why there not
Old 15-05-2007, 11:00 AM
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Give us a clue fella or fellaress, im going to bed soon

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Old 15-05-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Give us a clue fella or fellaress, im going to bed soon

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the word EGG

Old 15-05-2007, 11:01 AM
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you can make omlettes with them
Old 15-05-2007, 11:02 AM
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So you bought a set of egg shaped pistons with out checking them??

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Old 15-05-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
So you bought a set of egg shaped pistons with out checking them??

Bri.

no theyre the old ones Bri

Alps- i prefer dippy
Old 15-05-2007, 11:04 AM
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theres a little bit of dirty on the end of the skirt
Old 15-05-2007, 11:05 AM
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Ok your going to have to REALLY spell it out for me i have just finished a 17hr nightshift and i'm slightly confused

Bri.

Old 15-05-2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
theres a little bit of dirty on the end of the skirt



the bit where gudgeon pin is egg shaped
Old 15-05-2007, 11:06 AM
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Where the pin goes through is fucked shaped like an egg
Old 15-05-2007, 11:08 AM
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beat ya
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Where the pin goes through is fucked shaped like an egg
Thats ya knock then

Tar for now.... good night ..... god bless

Bri.

Old 15-05-2007, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Where the pin goes through is fucked shaped like an egg
Thats ya knock then

Tar for now.... good night ..... god bless

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lol
Old 15-05-2007, 11:50 AM
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gudgeon pin clip isnt retainted properly, its probably been hammered out by sideways moment exerted on it by the littled end of the rod.
Old 15-05-2007, 11:53 AM
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There upside down!!!
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chip so whats that mean in terms i can understand lol

and all clips were in place when gudgeon pins removed
Old 15-05-2007, 12:06 PM
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What sort of knocking noise did you have? I've never seen little ends damaged like that
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
What sort of knocking noise did you have? I've never seen little ends damaged like that
it wasnt excessively knocking, just like constant piston slap

what i dont get is everyone says little ends NEVER go.... so why have mine and whats the likely cause????

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Is there any det marks on the crowns ?

Looks like it has been running hot as fook and softened the alloy..
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
Originally Posted by paulpalmer
What sort of knocking noise did you have? I've never seen little ends damaged like that
it wasnt excessively knocking, just like constant piston slap

what i dont get is everyone says little ends NEVER go.... so why have mine and whats the likely cause????

Little ends go regularly but it`s usually the bush in the rod...
Old 15-05-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
Originally Posted by paulpalmer
What sort of knocking noise did you have? I've never seen little ends damaged like that
it wasnt excessively knocking, just like constant piston slap

what i dont get is everyone says little ends NEVER go.... so why have mine and whats the likely cause????

Mine has a top end rattle when picking up the revs at the moment and I haven't been able to find out what is causing it. It's noisy from cold and nearly goes away when warm.
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Is there any det marks on the crowns ?

Looks like it has been running hot as fook and softened the alloy..

Well, its either that or the rod is bent and has driven it through, cant really tell from those pictures, I think you might be onto something though.
Old 15-05-2007, 12:49 PM
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the skirts look warn and are quite badly scored - caused by excessive bore wear...?
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Dave, Indeed, i would wager the whole engine is pretty much wankered
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no det marks at all on piston crown

well ive got some new little end bushes coming and ill get the machine shop to check conrods

cheers
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Dicko&Sarah

Just blame it on the Monkey............ And hang him again for screwing with your pistons!!



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Originally Posted by Franco
Dicko&Sarah

Just blame it on the Monkey............ And hang him again for screwing with your pistons!!



good thinking batman
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
no det marks at all on piston crown

well ive got some new little end bushes coming and ill get the machine shop to check conrods

cheers
check the piston to bore clearance too!
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