A question to Ford CVH and Cosworth Owners with L8 ECU's...
10-05-2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Davey C
How much and when can I get it 
10-05-2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Kelv
Also, can you buy the softwear or have it fitted by yourself to run the anti lag / launch control / coilpacks etc and then still have it mapped by your own engine builder to there requirements?
ALS and Launch control software will be contained within the calibration Eprom of the Level 8 ECU, thus it will only be available with my own maps on it. It MAY be possible at a later date to incorporate other peoples maps into this software for a price, but i am not currently very happy with the prospect of being the last person to touch a map, so to speak, just in case its garbage and was about to kill something... if you follow?
Wasted spark of course can still be fitted to any ecu regardless of mapper. Just as it always was.
My main point was, with Martoon currently building my engine, and then arranging the mapping side of things for my car all on L8, would there have been the possibility of having the added feature of your software, namely 'Launch Control' added to it!?
Cheers
10-05-2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Roosie
i maybe interested but how much hard work to convert to anti lag apart from stronger turbo?
ALS valve.
ALS throttle body
Those are minimum requirements.
However we will also be able to run perfectly normal idle control valve strategies too if you wish to fit bigger and better bypass valves elsewhere. Unlike the shonky pectel P8 version.
10-05-2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by S2martin
Do you now wish you kept your cossie Stu? what with all these new and exciting developments?? 
I just yearned for a normal, newer smelling, quiet and comfortable car to drive home in. I am still enjoying that after 15 hard years of Cosworth daily driver...
10-05-2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Kelv
Also, can you buy the softwear or have it fitted by yourself to run the anti lag / launch control / coilpacks etc and then still have it mapped by your own engine builder to there requirements?
ALS and Launch control software will be contained within the calibration Eprom of the Level 8 ECU, thus it will only be available with my own maps on it. It MAY be possible at a later date to incorporate other peoples maps into this software for a price, but i am not currently very happy with the prospect of being the last person to touch a map, so to speak, just in case its garbage and was about to kill something... if you follow?
Wasted spark of course can still be fitted to any ecu regardless of mapper. Just as it always was.
My main point was, with Martoon currently building my engine, and then arranging the mapping side of things for my car all on L8, would there have been the possibility of having the added feature of your software, namely 'Launch Control' added to it!?
Cheers
10-05-2007 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by boosthappy1
Could all this be happening
to a lovely white 3 door you have up there mate.
to a lovely white 3 door you have up there mate.
Thanks to Steve Whittaker and his beautifull 500Bhp 3door, i have a test mule for a week or 2 to complete the project with Nikola and also Simon, as he is helping us with some spark drive related issues.
and thanks to Nikola and Simon for there help in getting my car sorted 
Sounds like your turning my car into something a bit special
We will have to get a few beers sorted soon and lets keep the lap dancers in a job Cheers Steve
10-05-2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
now come on Stu, you know how ive been running all this on P8 with no issues whatsoever, i dont even suffer this so called 'high revs' on cold start, dont put kenny down, he is a bit good with P8
10-05-2007 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by boosthappy1
Could all this be happening
to a lovely white 3 door you have up there mate.
to a lovely white 3 door you have up there mate.
Thanks to Steve Whittaker and his beautifull 500Bhp 3door, i have a test mule for a week or 2 to complete the project with Nikola and also Simon, as he is helping us with some spark drive related issues.
and thanks to Nikola and Simon for there help in getting my car sorted Sounds like your turning my car into something a bit special
We will have to get a few beers sorted soon and lets keep the lap dancers in a job Cheers Steve
We will arrange a meal and a few beers for when you pick her up mate. Thanks again for your very kind help.
11-05-2007 | 10:58 AM
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Re: A question to Ford CVH and Cosworth Owners with L8 ECU's
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Can you imagine having your Level 8 with:
Wasted spark.
&
Closed loop fuelling control.
&
Pectel compatible serial datastream output for diagnostics.
Wasted spark.
&
Closed loop fuelling control.
&
Pectel compatible serial datastream output for diagnostics.
)Is the datastream documented so that someone who understands computers and RS-232 can do something with it ?
And as Tabetha said - how about L6 ???
11-05-2007 | 09:28 PM
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CAN buses Rock!
How would u do it? Multiplex?
CAN buses Rock!
How would u do it? Multiplex?
CAN in the right enviroment does rock.
All thats needed is extra inputs added to the existing CPU bus.
2 chips, a few resistors job done.
12-05-2007 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
any ideas when this new stuff will be available?
12-05-2007 | 07:20 PM
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I should know a LOT more on Tuesday, as i will be hopefully spending most of tomorrow playing with it all on Steve's car.... if all goes to plan at Nikola's end.
mmm I really should get a life
Steve
12-05-2007 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
Originally Posted by slowpoke
what ecu is in a 4x4 saph ?
thats l6 yes ?
thats l6 yes ?
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12-05-2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
any ideas when this new stuff will be available?
as i will be ordering coilpack conversion and new chip soon so may aswell wait until your all sorted and get it all together
would the engine loomneed modifying for the extras or is it all in the ecu
13-05-2007 | 04:48 PM
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I already have a L8 with a MSD Evo chip on my Stg3 2wd, looking to plumb in my ALS T34 turbo and go coil pack/wasted spark anytime now so this is excellent news, would like to get all the parts for the conversion from yourself including any bypass valve etc Cant wait for the coil on plug set up too, is this aimed more at high powererd/motorsport applications or recommended at Stg 3 power? Good news . Mark.
Cant wait for the coil on plug set up too, is this aimed more at high powererd/motorsport applications or recommended at Stg 3 power? Good news . Mark.
13-05-2007 | 04:52 PM
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No loom mods needed unless you opt to have ALS in its own bypass housing and retain teh full ISCV strategies.
Coil On Plug doenst really benefit you a great deal over wastyed spark until at very high BHP indeed. (600+) or you are running NOS.
(Nos and WS dont really work well together due to a small inherent risk)
Coil On Plug doenst really benefit you a great deal over wastyed spark until at very high BHP indeed. (600+) or you are running NOS.
(Nos and WS dont really work well together due to a small inherent risk)
13-05-2007 | 05:03 PM
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if i was to have anti lag it would just be a mild one tbh
as i dont really want ti fork out for a maram shafted turbo just yet
but thats good know theres no mod to the loom
but what about turning it on and off will just be a switch
as i dont really want ti fork out for a maram shafted turbo just yet
but thats good know theres no mod to the loom
but what about turning it on and off will just be a switch
13-05-2007 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
if i was to have anti lag it would just be a mild one tbh
as i dont really want ti fork out for a maram shafted turbo just yet
but thats good know theres no mod to the loom
but what about turning it on and off will just be a switch
as i dont really want ti fork out for a maram shafted turbo just yet
but thats good know theres no mod to the loom
but what about turning it on and off will just be a switch
Or 2 if you opt to have launch control as well.
13-05-2007 | 05:11 PM
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Sounds pretty good, Stu!
I wasnt aware that ALS could be switched off so as to speak - so when off, it runs like a normal car then? (well as normal as my cosworth ever manages anyway ROFL!)
JJ
I wasnt aware that ALS could be switched off so as to speak - so when off, it runs like a normal car then? (well as normal as my cosworth ever manages anyway ROFL!)
JJ
13-05-2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Sounds pretty good, Stu!
I wasnt aware that ALS could be switched off so as to speak - so when off, it runs like a normal car then? (well as normal as my cosworth ever manages anyway ROFL!)
JJ
I wasnt aware that ALS could be switched off so as to speak - so when off, it runs like a normal car then? (well as normal as my cosworth ever manages anyway ROFL!)
JJ
13-05-2007 | 10:35 PM
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A clip of Nikola and friend doing some initial testing the first ALS on an old 8v Delta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO6I1...elated&search=
As you can hear, it just pops, this is due to the standard twin silencer system, which eventually gave way....
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...haust1_197.jpg
Another one, this time on a 16v Evo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmbhl...elated&search=
Make sure you have a good exhaust as well as a strong turbo!
Personally I think it's great what Nikola can do to a standard ECU and am looking forward to getting the results of his work through MSD over here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO6I1...elated&search=
As you can hear, it just pops, this is due to the standard twin silencer system, which eventually gave way....
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...haust1_197.jpg
Another one, this time on a 16v Evo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmbhl...elated&search=
Make sure you have a good exhaust as well as a strong turbo!
Personally I think it's great what Nikola can do to a standard ECU and am looking forward to getting the results of his work through MSD over here.
14-05-2007 | 07:43 AM
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Dare I ask how the traction control works ?
The ECU doesn't see any speed reading does it ? The only thing I can see being related to traction control the ECU would see is RPM
Just being curious
The ECU doesn't see any speed reading does it ? The only thing I can see being related to traction control the ECU would see is RPM
Just being curious