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Old 08-05-2007 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
No, you think its fixed, you will find out soon the way in which you are wrong, as it is in fact currently broken.
This as I see it is cosworth ownership to a T!

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1993 Cobra mustang with a turbo conversion(800bhpV8) and brake and chassis/suspension upgradeds
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1993 Cobra mustang with a turbo conversion(800bhpV8) and brake and chassis/suspension upgradeds
Different, I'll give you that!!!

But an american car around the Ring? A step too far methinks!!! ROFL

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1993 Cobra mustang with a turbo conversion(800bhpV8) and brake and chassis/suspension upgradeds
Different, I'll give you that!!!

But an american car around the Ring? A step too far methinks!!! ROFL

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This shape of Mustang is the smallest of them so is the same size as a 3dr and there is lots of chassis, suspension and brake mods available and im sure Danny B at adrenalin has had quite a bit to do with a few that go the pod regular !

Just depends wether you want a girls car with lots of computers keeping the car in a straight line or not !!
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Keep the saph and put an LS2 in it.

400bhp, more economical than currently, totally reliable, no lag, sounds nice, and would cost peanuts by the time you sold the YB stuff off.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Keep the saph and put an LS2 in it.

400bhp, more economical than currently, totally reliable, no lag, sounds nice, and would cost peanuts by the time you sold the YB stuff off.
LS2 being a vauxhall engine by chance?

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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Keep the saph and put an LS2 in it.

400bhp, more economical than currently, totally reliable, no lag, sounds nice, and would cost peanuts by the time you sold the YB stuff off.
LS2 being a vauxhall engine by chance?

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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Keep the saph and put an LS2 in it.

400bhp, more economical than currently, totally reliable, no lag, sounds nice, and would cost peanuts by the time you sold the YB stuff off.
LS2 being a vauxhall engine by chance?

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HAHA sort of !!!!

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Here you go mate:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/140034.htm

Possibly one of the best track cars ever...
Old 08-05-2007 | 12:36 PM
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Spec C Subaru with another Ł25k thrown at it.
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....maybe you did beat your mate...but i know what i'd rather be in...a different class....

AMG ROCKS


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Originally Posted by Bosch Dealer
....maybe you did beat your mate...but i know what i'd rather be in...a different class....

AMG ROCKS


A different, slower, more refined less hectic class altogether without the hurried rushing about of an M car
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Originally Posted by plynchy
Here you go mate:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/140034.htm

Possibly one of the best track cars ever...
I see that he is particularly pleased with his Digital Clock ROFL! Nice car though for its day!



Boschman - I have spent most of the day and night with my mate in his SL55 AMG - tuned mildly to about 570bhp. It goes very well indeed.

If you are serious about the new E class though, he urges you to consider the CL instead. Apparently the E class chassis isnt so great on the new one, and the handling reflects it. He reckons the CL and the SL are a good deal stiffer.

Having come back from the Nurgburgring trip with both him and the E55 AMG I would observe the the track performance more than reflected this .

The E class I must say was very nice inside - it reminded me of my old seven series more than the M5 though if I am honest.
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Originally Posted by NIL 7717
noble would be the ay for not too much cash.and so much peformance for the cash
???? Decent ones are Ł25k mate!!!

Very cool cars and very fast on a track...

But he wants to replace the Saff.... so surely a car of similar Cash. Not one worth FIVE times more!


The 968 is awesome car but may not satisfy your straight line needs. VERY VERY VERY good cars though.

Steve shout of an S14a is probably your best bet. All the pros of Saff but without the wank image and toss looks!
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Surely if it's a weekend toy for trackdays in this country, then a 7 replica would be a good shout. Obviously driving all the way to the Ring in a Caterham etc would be a royal pain in the arse.

Whilst cars like M5s etc are amazing road cars, for a weekend toy and track car? More than a bit heavy, and not as chuckable as plenty of other options.
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got to be E46 m3 or EVO 5 upwards.......
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YB engine out and into a DJ DAX RUSH track car
or maybe a Busa turbo DAX RUSH.
As a decent all round motor though an RX7 cant be beaten on looks but then an E36 M3 would be great aswell choices choices
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For your budget constraints, I would chose a 3 litre E36 M3, stripped to buggery, plastic windows etc. Spend the extra on decent tyres, APs all round, expensive suspension, polybushed, chipped, exhaust and Gruppe M style filter.

If Jim can do a 9.15 driving like a woman in his, then a properly sorted one with sufficient knowledge would EASILY knock 1 minute off that.

Doesn't matter too much if you bin it, as you could transfer everything to another, and they can be picked up for cheap 2wd Cossie money....

You could also sell the bits not wanted to help pay for the mods.

WEAPON.

Forget all this "Not fast enough bollocks", you have NO idea .
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rx7- its fast,tunable,looks good and you get to tell people its got a
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
For your budget constraints, I would chose a 3 litre E36 M3, stripped to buggery, plastic windows etc. Spend the extra on decent tyres, APs all round, expensive suspension, polybushed, chipped, exhaust and Gruppe M style filter.

If Jim can do a 9.15 driving like a woman in his, then a properly sorted one with sufficient knowledge would EASILY knock 1 minute off that.

Doesn't matter too much if you bin it, as you could transfer everything to another, and they can be picked up for cheap 2wd Cossie money....

You could also sell the bits not wanted to help pay for the mods.

WEAPON.

Forget all this "Not fast enough bollocks", you have NO idea .

I agree with part of this.

EVO mag did an article with an E36 3.0 M3 (the non EVO version) at the ring, trying to break the 8.00 lap. They didnt make it, but they got bloody close!

I myself dont question their pace on the ring - I have benefited from first hand experience with both the E36 and the E46 variety on the ring, of which there are on of each in my party that go to the ring with me twice a year average.

With the above said, it must be said that Race pace does not necessarily make a fast road car. My cos between breakdowns will cleanly beat an M3 quite simply because the M3 cannot exert its handling advantage over me (not safe and not enough room!). It is because of this that I suspect that people including myself refer to the car as being not quick enough.

The cos is unquestionably a poor handling car that can be tweaked to make reasonable. But one cannot question its ability to appear extremely fast on a road.

In addition to the above, I have an E39 M5 already, which is a little close to this car, which puts me off a little. Further - as two of me mates already have them - Id rather go a different route.

The Skyline GTR33 is the top of my list so far with a few choice mods! It has the benefit of being tuneable if I get bored! LOL

JJ
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Forget the R33, as 1. Steve is getting confused, it was a stripped out R32 that had been "played" with according to Dirk .
2. The R32 is the lightest and best looking (IMO) and could be made into a better track car (see GT Battle contenders for the Skyline model that gets chosen ).

Also, you have your M5 for M3 bashing, so think my idea is still best for a Ring car. Skyline's make Cossies look positively CHEAP to run .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Forget the R33, as 1. Steve is getting confused, it was a stripped out R32 that had been "played" with according to Dirk .
2. The R32 is the lightest and best looking (IMO) and could be made into a better track car (see GT Battle contenders for the Skyline model that gets chosen ).

Also, you have your M5 for M3 bashing, so think my idea is still best for a Ring car. Skyline's make Cossies look positively CHEAP to run .
All good points LOL

Not nearly enough between the M5 and the M3s for straight line pace though for my liking - they are like a rash - every time you think you lost it, it comes back!

Also, dont worry, I was already aware of Steves faux pas!

Ref the R32, I quite like them also - and am becoming to realise the costs relating to tuning them! Also wife hates the look of both the R32 and R33! She quite likes the R34 - which I cant afford!

Bugger!

PS - to all that suggest the Dax, westies etc etc - all good advice - until you consider my considerable frame! I am 6ft 5" and a little large - look proper fucking stupid in these coffin dodgems!

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e36 m3 gt
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Just remember i am ROAD car...my AMG is simply awesome but now lacks grunt ..i need more BHP although my missus will disagree..as she shits herself in the Merc due to me exploiting the TC to the point of it thinks i have crashed so shuts down whilst she throws up ..
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Audi S2, 4wd, fast, sounds awsome,

I had one as a winter car and loved it
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good post this
i'm in a simlar problem , the cossie might be going this weekend , but i have not got a clue what to replace it with
i'm thinking of an m3 e36 or evo 5 upwards
keep the ideas coming
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evo 3 or 5,

strip the fuck out of it, make sure you get an rs version,

will totally embarase the cossie in every manour with the same ish power.
and piece of piss to work on.

things to check for are, crank walk on early modle, and well, nothing in particular on evo 5 and above.
avoid the 4, its the only one you cant chip loool


seriously quick cars though
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
until you consider my considerable frame! I am 6ft 5" and a little large
JJ
You sure your that tall

I don't think you are

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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
until you consider my considerable frame! I am 6ft 5" and a little large
JJ
You sure your that tall

I don't think you are

Steve.
Not my fault you are even more unnaturally tall than I am

Originally Posted by Bosch Dealer
Just remember i am ROAD car...my AMG is simply awesome but now lacks grunt ..i need more BHP although my missus will disagree..as she shits herself in the Merc due to me exploiting the TC to the point of it thinks i have crashed so shuts down whilst she throws up ..
LMAO - I bet your missus loves driving with you then! LOL

Having now driven a non-supercharged E55, I am not surprised you are looking for more power . I know you are not strictly a fan of the M5, but honestly - they are a little quicker, and significantly better in the twisties.

So much so that EVO mag still picked it over the newer Supercharged version despite the fact that the E55 significantly outgunned it!!!! I kid you not!

Link if you dont believe me...

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg...rk_forces.html



Back on topic - I quite like the EVOs - they look the part - I was quite impressed by Dougs FQ 300, but I would want probably about 400bhp out of one (just because!)

So how much would that cost to achieve then?

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only one car fits the bill matey the mighty lotus carlton!!rare and shit hot power
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only one car fits the bill matey the mighty lotus carlton!!rare and shit hot power
I used to love those cars! Mind you - I imagine the bills would be spine chilling on failure!

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What do you want out of the car ?
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urm yes they r lol but as it a weekend car should not matter although i work for vauxhalls we r not allowed to work on them but i can tell u some prices!!r u sitting done!good here we go,
1)clutch Ł600
2)front pads Ł300 yes Ł300
3)front pads and discs Ł1100
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Originally Posted by G2RSR
What do you want out of the car ?
Not a lot really - capable of beating a std trim E46 M3 around the Nurgburgring, and also able to blitz down the main road at a speed that would make most people shudder!

All on a buget, and preferably with the possibility of future tuning for when I get bored (and I will!)

Not a lot really

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Audi RS2 estate.

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i had a stage 3 rwd saph and sold it for an evo 6, and now i pine for another cossie.
Each to their own though.
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Originally Posted by Evorich
i had a stage 3 rwd saph and sold it for an evo 6, and now i pine for another cossie.
Each to their own though.
This is useful feedback - why exactly? The EVO 6 is a good car, so where does it become lacking?

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100% i say a Mazda RX7 look at every review theres loads of them they put RX7 VS SKYLINE VS SCOOBY STI VS EVO 9 the RX7 came out top they out even out handle a EVO 9 easy

check out you tube mate theres loads of jap tests
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Originally Posted by Evorich
i had a stage 3 rwd saph and sold it for an evo 6, and now i pine for another cossie.
Each to their own though.
This is useful feedback - why exactly? The EVO 6 is a good car, so where does it become lacking?

JJ
in my opinion the evo does all the driving for you and is quite smooth performance wise(standard) where as the sierra was more bruttle and arse end happy and faster which is what i like.
the evo is a great car but i like fords. this is my opinion though.


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