Which gearbox for Escort cossie running 500BHP
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Which gearbox for Escort cossie running 500BHP
Took Dads Escort up to MAD to be mapped on Saturday its running a GT30 and autronics etc but at the mo its on the standard box 
Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long 
Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long
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01-05-2007, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by NIL 7717
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
The Mullet/Marco one seems like a good option
that seems good for a box that will put up with that much grunt.i may have to look into one for mine when she's back.
01-05-2007, 07:54 AM
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Ł3k for the "Mullet" box is just for the internals, you then have the additional costs of fitting into your casing, which is around Ł700. Also if you wish to go launching, you need to uprate the first gear and main shaft (which like the Fixit kit, uses the OE items), this then ups the price by another Ł1500ish. THEN you have a bullet-proof set up that you can go launching with .
If you're not bothered about this aspect, then no need to change these items. My own car uses standard first gear and main shaft
. Also the Mullet box is fully straight cut, so can be a little noisy, but adds to the "motorsport" feel .
To show how good this kit is, we use the Mullet first gear and main shaft in the Fixit kits for people that want the reduced noise of the semi-straight cut gears these use, but still want the strength and ability to go launching.
.If you're not bothered about this aspect, then no need to change these items. My own car uses standard first gear and main shaft
. Also the Mullet box is fully straight cut, so can be a little noisy, but adds to the "motorsport" feel .To show how good this kit is, we use the Mullet first gear and main shaft in the Fixit kits for people that want the reduced noise of the semi-straight cut gears these use, but still want the strength and ability to go launching.
01-05-2007, 07:59 AM
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Mike Rainbird
ah so its not that cheap then!i take it the oe 1st ans 2nd wont put up with many launches then?
most of my driving is motorway but i do like a trip to the pod every now and then too.
but saying that i dont really want over 450 bhp due to engine life expense.
450 is a fast car i think.
ah so its not that cheap then!i take it the oe 1st ans 2nd wont put up with many launches then?
most of my driving is motorway but i do like a trip to the pod every now and then too.
but saying that i dont really want over 450 bhp due to engine life expense.
450 is a fast car i think.
01-05-2007, 08:52 AM
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Second gear is replaced, it's only the first gear that remains OE 
.
In Sweden before the availability of the uprated first gear, they would "life" the OE first gear (as in change it after so many launches - if it didn't fail by then ). However, Ford discontinued the part (like they do ) and now you either have to use your existing first or buy the uprated version.
.In Sweden before the availability of the uprated first gear, they would "life" the OE first gear (as in change it after so many launches - if it didn't fail by then
). However, Ford discontinued the part (like they do ) and now you either have to use your existing first or buy the uprated version.
i may have to do some more thinking then.i dont want to have to replace it for a long while after its done.
01-05-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
You need a box that's bullet proof and I woudn't go winding the car up until you have one fitted unless of course you have breakdown cover
Luciano
and I woudn't go winding the car up until you have one fitted unless of course you have breakdown cover Luciano
had her 4 years and three of them at 350bhp and she's a bit on the low side too.
01-05-2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
If budget isnt an issue at all, starting looking at xtrack stuff.
01-05-2007, 10:33 AM
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Personally I'd go for a 6spd FFd. Double H pattern will set you about 8k twice that if you want sequential. Get it maintained by Baramotorsport and its happy days
01-05-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: Which gearbox for Escort cossie running 500BHP
Originally Posted by cos47
Took Dads Escort up to MAD to be mapped on Saturday its running a GT30 and autronics etc but at the mo its on the standard box Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long
Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long 
01-05-2007, 10:43 AM
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Re: Which gearbox for Escort cossie running 500BHP
Originally Posted by dangerous - reyland
Originally Posted by cos47
Took Dads Escort up to MAD to be mapped on Saturday its running a GT30 and autronics etc but at the mo its on the standard box Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long
Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long
01-05-2007, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Ł3k for the "Mullet" box is just for the internals, you then have the additional costs of fitting into your casing, which is around Ł700. Also if you wish to go launching, you need to uprate the first gear and main shaft (which like the Fixit kit, uses the OE items), this then ups the price by another Ł1500ish. THEN you have a bullet-proof set up that you can go launching with .
If you're not bothered about this aspect, then no need to change these items. My own car uses standard first gear and main shaft. Also the Mullet box is fully straight cut, so can be a little noisy, but adds to the "motorsport" feel .
To show how good this kit is, we use the Mullet first gear and main shaft in the Fixit kits for people that want the reduced noise of the semi-straight cut gears these use, but still want the strength and ability to go launching.
.If you're not bothered about this aspect, then no need to change these items. My own car uses standard first gear and main shaft
. Also the Mullet box is fully straight cut, so can be a little noisy, but adds to the "motorsport" feel .To show how good this kit is, we use the Mullet first gear and main shaft in the Fixit kits for people that want the reduced noise of the semi-straight cut gears these use, but still want the strength and ability to go launching.
Mike,
i think the 'mullet' box is all built ready isn't it.
thought they were on an exchange basis......forgive me if i'm wrong.
01-05-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: Which gearbox for Escort cossie running 500BHP
Originally Posted by dangerous - reyland
Originally Posted by cos47
Took Dads Escort up to MAD to be mapped on Saturday its running a GT30 and autronics etc but at the mo its on the standard box Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long
Can anyone give me their thoughts on which box to go for as i dont think the standard one is gunna last very long You're wrong
01-05-2007, 04:12 PM
#31
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Mike Rainbird
ok then. 
how much is the 'fix it' kit then,as i thought this was similarly priced but you had the benifit of the 'mullet' being all built up.
ok then. how much is the 'fix it' kit then,as i thought this was similarly priced but you had the benifit of the 'mullet' being all built up.
01-05-2007, 04:16 PM
#33
Chip,
That is 100% true about the supply issue, but this is soon to be resolved, as Bjorn has invested huge money in a machine that does the finishing of the gear kits (due to the guy who used to do it for him dieing ). The first "new" batch should be ready imminently .
Dave,
You know what "thought" did .
That is 100% true about the supply issue, but this is soon to be resolved, as Bjorn has invested huge money in a machine that does the finishing of the gear kits (due to the guy who used to do it for him dieing
). The first "new" batch should be ready imminently .Dave,
You know what "thought" did
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01-05-2007, 04:25 PM
#34
I had heard the rumours that they were unable to find anyone else who could replicate some old boy who had died's work on the finish too.
Sounds like he was a properly skilled old guy, I love stuff like that
Is the new equipment going to raise the price due to the investment cost, or lower it due to larger scale production, or leave it unaltered?
Sounds like he was a properly skilled old guy, I love stuff like that
Is the new equipment going to raise the price due to the investment cost, or lower it due to larger scale production, or leave it unaltered?
01-05-2007, 04:28 PM
#36
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I had heard the rumours that they were unable to find anyone else who could replicate some old boy who had died's work on the finish too.
Sounds like he was a properly skilled old guy, I love stuff like that
Is the new equipment going to raise the price due to the investment cost, or lower it due to larger scale production, or leave it unaltered?
Sounds like he was a properly skilled old guy, I love stuff like that
Is the new equipment going to raise the price due to the investment cost, or lower it due to larger scale production, or leave it unaltered?
Put it this way, I have not been asked for any more money for the kit I have on order so far
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