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Old 19-04-2007 | 06:02 PM
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you CANNOT beat the sound of Twin Carbs/TB's.
but you can beat its power/torque/powerband
Fuck that! just drive around at 9k everywhere.
Old 19-04-2007 | 06:36 PM
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This must be fake....
Old 19-04-2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ian sibbert
Gareth,

Cos a turb car don't sound like one of these....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPGFs7Ml34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC9sCw6hY4w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYwclByOVo

And the 2 red escorts are a little less BHP than the Greek ones...both on slide injection though..
Been seeing those two drivers(Darren Atkinson-Phil Burton) for years on rallies,always the best to watch and hear.Top cars and drivers
Heres another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j55RjT2KsIU
ANY turbo car will never beat that noise
Old 19-04-2007 | 07:13 PM
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proper motor that,love it.i bet that sounds the tits on the limit,that must be fooking mental on a short track,would piss on a lot of the turbo cars surely on more twisty stuff
Old 19-04-2007 | 07:22 PM
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Thats hot!!!
I love the updated look of the car.
For what is it made rallying/hillclimbing??
Old 19-04-2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Charlie Chalk jesseT already answered

Originally Posted by JesseT
The coating is standard anti-friction coating as in all quality pistons, like the ones in my Zetec turbo
pic here

Missed that Cheers Nick
Old 19-04-2007 | 11:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsknM6cyYnQ
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I would love to see that in real life
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While searching about the red Escort i found this also!

One of our best hillclimbers EVER and definitely one of our most impressive!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajlZ...elated&search=
Old 19-04-2007 | 11:26 PM
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Very nice,i think on most race tracks an aspirated car will always win on the twisty bits,just look at my mates orange mk2 escort rs2000 with 2.2 HT racing pinto that does national day every year,very few people get past him with big power cossies,only a few pass on the long straights but then the bends come up again and they cant get past
Some people should recognize the car in the pic next to mine
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fukin awesome
Old 20-04-2007 | 06:36 AM
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When he's got 200 hp he's still got 6000 RPM still to rev with rising power. Gareth, does your engine do that?
Old 20-04-2007 | 09:27 AM
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When he's got 200 hp he's still got 6000 RPM still to rev with rising power. Gareth, does your engine do that?
no, unless he has got the longest gearign in the world he wont be making any use of those revs aswell
Old 20-04-2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
While searching about the red Escort i found this also!

One of our best hillclimbers EVER and definitely one of our most impressive!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajlZ...elated&search=
How long is that hillclimb circuit?
Old 20-04-2007 | 11:17 AM
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ace machine! sounds the bollocks

can someone explain why you de stroke an engine? rod ratio? does it make for a revvy fucker?

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Going to shorter stroke reduces the reciprocating mass (the weight the engine has to spin around) combined with an increase in bore diameter which in conjunction with a decent head gives better breathing, more revs and lots more power.....

If you hear people talking about 'over square' engines this is what they mean....
Old 20-04-2007 | 01:00 PM
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i just can't get my head around how much power this is making
Old 20-04-2007 | 01:13 PM
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loving the whine on the gearbox...proper rally slag.
Old 21-04-2007 | 06:15 PM
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I stand to be corrected but Ducati GP use

Shell Racing V-Power (Not the standard 97 stuff you buy in your local) Super Premium as Shell call it

Which is 5% ethanol and 100 Octane. Its like in F1. The fuels arent massively different to regular super unleaded. Well not in comparison to the stuff Dragsters and the like run.

Im dubious, but thats because a lot of Greek modified cars seem to have a different understanding as to how much 1HP actualy is... Theres a "Turbo 1000BHP E36 M3" there. But having seen a vid of it racing a Ferrari 360. Its probably less than 600BHP.
Old 21-04-2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
Awesome car, but 211lb/ft of torque is a HELL of a lot for a 1.9 litre N/A engine.... is that even feasible?
I'm not questioning that there's clearly loads of development work gone into it, and it's a very impressive lump, but I've always been under the impression that even on a normally aspriated full race engine with ŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁs of development work, over 100lb/ft per litre is simply not going to happen.
My dads road engine makes 106hp/litre and thats a 20year old design so it's very easily possible
Old 21-04-2007 | 07:34 PM
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"your dads" car only has 199 lb foot out of a 2.5* so when you learn to read the quote Marks made. Maybe you'll understand.

*Presumably thats not when he fills it up with Diesel by mistake!
Old 21-04-2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
While searching about the red Escort i found this also!

One of our best hillclimbers EVER and definitely one of our most impressive!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajlZ...elated&search=
BIG version

http://www.raceinfo.no/tempftp/Ford_...llclimbing.mpg

Superb car control and super sexy car

Mark
Old 21-04-2007 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
Awesome car, but 211lb/ft of torque is a HELL of a lot for a 1.9 litre N/A engine.... is that even feasible?
I'm not questioning that there's clearly loads of development work gone into it, and it's a very impressive lump, but I've always been under the impression that even on a normally aspriated full race engine with ŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁs of development work, over 100lb/ft per litre is simply not going to happen.
I had an Astra 1.4 Merit running a C20XE engine producing 209 lb/ft torque on the rollers. Used to pull like a train!!!
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Quick question, If he has made such a powerful engine N/A will adding a turbo make it even better? Or will it be a totally different setup?

Cheers, Benni.
Old 22-04-2007 | 07:13 AM
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thats abit fucking tasty
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cheers

does over-square relate to the bore/stroke ratio?

awseome machine!
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Originally Posted by turbo terry
cheers

does over-square relate to the bore/stroke ratio?

awseome machine!
If the bore is bigger than the stroke then the engine is oversquare
The engine going in my EsCos is oversquare having a 4 inch bore and 3 inch stroke.
It is not all about weight, a short stroke 2 litre will have a lower piston speed than a long stroke 2 litre so you can rev higher without excessive piston speeds. You also get a bigger combustion chamber relative to capacity meaning that there is more room for big valves.

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Originally Posted by Rallyesport
When he's got 200 hp he's still got 6000 RPM still to rev with rising power. Gareth, does your engine do that?
Useless to think in plain rpm units, try in octaves or dB instead.
So when he makes 200hp he can just about still double the revs in the same gear. Almost any well specced turbo car can do that.
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Originally Posted by RS2300 4x4
Originally Posted by turbo terry
cheers

does over-square relate to the bore/stroke ratio?

awseome machine!
If the bore is bigger than the stroke then the engine is oversquare
The engine going in my EsCos is oversquare having a 4 inch bore and 3 inch stroke.
It is not all about weight, a short stroke 2 litre will have a lower piston speed than a long stroke 2 litre so you can rev higher without excessive piston speeds. You also get a bigger combustion chamber relative to capacity meaning that there is more room for big valves.

Mark
What engine are you putting your car? I thought 94mm was about the limit of the standard cossie block.....
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i think its a V8 ian
Old 22-04-2007 | 10:21 AM
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Cheers Gareth

Ah hence the siggy....good shout....will be a decent motor at those sort of dimensions....
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It's a 5 litre Ford V8 or 302 cubic inches
Even the 351 Cubic inch version (5.75 litres) is oversquare with a 4 inch bore and 3.5 inch stroke. Too heavy for me because of taller block and much more likely to grenade my MT75

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