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Old 09-04-2007, 08:27 PM
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Hi

I am currenlty working through some tuning theories (to understand the engineering principals.

A Graham Bell has indicated that the VE of a 4 valve engine unmodified would be approximatley 90%.

Do we know what the Cossies VE is as stock?

I am trying to work out the CFM of the current setup. So far I have calculated based on my own car, with a peak boost of 28 psi (giving a pressure ratio of 2.9), a peak rpm of 7250.

This comes out with a CFM of 668 approx.(46.8 lb/min)

Does this sound realistic?

Thanks

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Work out the std VE by working backwards, using the facts that it is making 204hp at 9psi of boost.
Old 09-04-2007, 08:57 PM
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HI matey

Thanks for that - appreciated but - IF I am using the same formula, then I will need the CFM for the std car.

Doesnt the other equation need temperature details to assess VE?

Oh bugger, I may be getting confused again!

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Where are you getting your equations from mate?

Just be curious to have a look over them
Old 09-04-2007, 09:06 PM
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he's been reading this



Great book
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Think i've got that somewhere buried under tons of other similar stuff

Want to go dig it out now
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Absolutely correct!

It is a good book, though it doesnt necessarily order the information in the way that I would order it!

I have his other book on performance NA engines, which I was trying to cross reference, but this is leading to more confusion. As such, I am now sticking to this one.

The particular equation that I was using at the mo is


Air Flow (lb/ft) =

0.07 *

(L X RPM X VE X PR)
(----------------------)
5660

Where

L is engine capacity in litres
VE is volumetric efficiency
PR is pressure ratio

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sorry,, ive been watching tv,,,
Old 09-04-2007, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
sorry,, ive been watching tv,,,
anything good?
Old 09-04-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
sorry,, ive been watching tv,,,
anything good?
american chopper,, and the program about following the world rally team
Old 09-04-2007, 10:59 PM
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good book, far from flawless tho.

still best book ive ever read tho
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you should try the bible...if your into fiction that is

i have a 'tuning the cvh' book that isn't 'too' bad...maybe i should try that
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