RS Turbos OR Cossies
02-04-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Originally Posted by Stu.H
Originally Posted by bud-weis
......i'll take you all on....ALL OF YOU!!!! MUHAHAHA 
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02-04-2007, 04:56 PM
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My old rst was fun in a straight line that was about it.Handling was SHOCKING!!!!. Tuned up by the Boys up Jamsport to 225bhp.I drove it everyday to work etc. I spent about 2.5k on it in the year I owned everything kept failing.Gearbox .Then picked up a gearboxman job that was 700 notes.Turbo went 500notes.List went on.then there was the rust.
Biggest pile of wank going Id never own another.
Picked up the rs2000 which ive owned for nearly 2 years and NOTHING has gone wrong with it. 175bhp on last r/r handles very well too.
Biggest pile of wank going Id never own another.
Picked up the rs2000 which ive owned for nearly 2 years and NOTHING has gone wrong with it. 175bhp on last r/r handles very well too.
02-04-2007, 05:09 PM
#45
Originally Posted by Stu.H
Originally Posted by cossie4i
Originally Posted by Stu.H
Originally Posted by bud-weis
......i'll take you all on....ALL OF YOU!!!! MUHAHAHA Steve.
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02-04-2007, 05:22 PM
#46
I did a calculation which is basically BHP at the wheels per tonne. If you do that, assuming Gary's Evo is 500bhp, they both come out to around 320bhp at the wheels per tonne. 
What does a Sapphire Cossie weigh just out of interest? 2wd/4wd.....
What does a Sapphire Cossie weigh just out of interest? 2wd/4wd.....
02-04-2007, 06:10 PM
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about 1275kg i think for 2wd...could be wrong though??
Stu.H
road or rollers.....there'd be absolutely no chance of an upset
even with my piss poor launching and lack of traction off the line i get 13.2@115mph 1/4mile times.....don't see many beantins better than that...plus my car is only just wound up then.....pulls hard all the way past 160mph
oh and don't think i'm going for more power now, gonna concentrate on more traction first
Stu.H
road or rollers.....there'd be absolutely no chance of an upset
even with my piss poor launching and lack of traction off the line i get 13.2@115mph 1/4mile times.....don't see many beantins better than that...plus my car is only just wound up then.....pulls hard all the way past 160mph
oh and don't think i'm going for more power now, gonna concentrate on more traction first
02-04-2007, 07:32 PM
#49
Originally Posted by Stu.H
I had 2 s2's, THEN a cossie...
Look what Ive gone back to
Mine and Christians would upset a fair few cossies as well
Look what Ive gone back to
Mine and Christians would upset a fair few cossies as well
Yeah but how much cash have you thrown at it, at the end of the day an escort is an escort an escort is an escort, boy racer chav mobile
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02-04-2007, 08:10 PM
#51
Originally Posted by gingeRS
loving the high powered RST dabates, i had much fun in my old S2 and that was only 190bhp
but you just get more respect in a cossie. out in the old bean tean, everyone looked at me like i was a c*nt, apart from fellow ford owners. But the cossie always gets good looks and respecting nods wherever it goes.
even from scooby and EVO owners, prob cos they are trying to guess how much power you have before they decide to race you
but you just get more respect in a cossie. out in the old bean tean, everyone looked at me like i was a c*nt, apart from fellow ford owners. But the cossie always gets good looks and respecting nods wherever it goes.
even from scooby and EVO owners, prob cos they are trying to guess how much power you have before they decide to race you
I feel the same mate.
had a 180bhp esc rst and a 250bhp one great fun but nothing like my cossie for driving.as for the evo comment.have to say that cracks me up when they are thinking "do i?dont i?" i just go for whatever is there and if it whoops me,then well done you have my respect(and envy
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02-04-2007, 08:25 PM
#52
While were on the subject of whether Cossie's are better than rs turbo's
I think the cossie owners ought to ask themselves how much a cossie was brand new and how much an rs turbo was brand new.
Hardly rocket science that they were pretty much double the price of an rs turbo
I think the cossie owners ought to ask themselves how much a cossie was brand new and how much an rs turbo was brand new.
Hardly rocket science that they were pretty much double the price of an rs turbo
02-04-2007, 08:33 PM
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So your saying double the car?
Dont think ill get another rs turbo. Would feel like going backwards.
Was just having (another) a bad day with the cossies when I posted this
Dont think ill get another rs turbo. Would feel like going backwards.
Was just having (another) a bad day with the cossies when I posted this
02-04-2007, 08:35 PM
#54
theres no other driving position better than a sierra,weather it be cossie or 2.0l gls the dashboard is great,it just feels right to drive
mk 4 escort feels tinny,low,plasticy,crap gearchange,fwd,no pas,even if it is an rs turbo,they look nice,but thats as far as it goes,the only 1 thing i liked about driving my s2 was the recaros
no offence to the rs turbo boys like thats just my prefrence as ive owned both
im not even going to mention the power
ps ...small things like the stereo pointing towrds you in a sierra so you can see it,i like....unlike other fords
mk 4 escort feels tinny,low,plasticy,crap gearchange,fwd,no pas,even if it is an rs turbo,they look nice,but thats as far as it goes,the only 1 thing i liked about driving my s2 was the recaros
no offence to the rs turbo boys like thats just my prefrence as ive owned both
im not even going to mention the power
ps ...small things like the stereo pointing towrds you in a sierra so you can see it,i like....unlike other fords
02-04-2007, 08:58 PM
#56
Originally Posted by NIL 7717
tbh i think the most part of it is the fact its a bigger car.makes the drive alot nicer
these are same size and not as good to drive i feel
not getting off the subject though ay?
02-04-2007, 09:12 PM
#59
[rant]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
02-04-2007, 09:21 PM
#61
Originally Posted by NIL 7717
Christian and Beccy
you cant tell me your car isnt expensive mate.youve gone so far with it that it has to be ,surely?
not arguing with you cos i see your point but yours must be a bit rich on bills too.
you cant tell me your car isnt expensive mate.youve gone so far with it that it has to be ,surely?
not arguing with you cos i see your point but yours must be a bit rich on bills too.
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02-04-2007, 09:28 PM
#62
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by NIL 7717
Christian and Beccy
you cant tell me your car isnt expensive mate.youve gone so far with it that it has to be ,surely?
not arguing with you cos i see your point but yours must be a bit rich on bills too.
you cant tell me your car isnt expensive mate.youve gone so far with it that it has to be ,surely?
not arguing with you cos i see your point but yours must be a bit rich on bills too.
) im suprised your car doesnt cost you much tbh,being that far up in the tuning steaks. my old bailey built 250bhp one used to be reliable mostly but ate boxes and driveshafts all the time
but that was built years ago and i spose technology has improved since.
02-04-2007, 09:31 PM
#63
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
[rant]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
even in basic form the sierra and the escort are totally diffrent cars,thats a pretty stupid thing to say
fiesta,escort,orion,mondeo--similar
sierra,capri,granada-similar
theres nothing similar about fwd and rwd sorry
02-04-2007, 09:34 PM
#64
Originally Posted by col cos1
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
[rant]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
even in basic form the sierra and the escort are totally diffrent cars,thats a pretty stupid thing to say
fiesta,escort,orion,mondeo--similar
sierra,capri,granada-similar
theres nothing similar about fwd and rwd sorry
sapphire,maverick,explorer similar
in my case 
02-04-2007, 09:37 PM
#65
Originally Posted by NIL 7717
Originally Posted by col cos1
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
[rant]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
AFPMSL. An Escort is an Escort? Well, what the fuck is a Sierra then? Some high-class thoroughbred machine then??!!
Take the RST and the Cossie back to their most basic form and how are they really any different?
Maybe the Sierra was originally pitched at someone slightly different as a basic car, but let's be honest, they really aren't that different.
Like the status difference between a Mondeo and a Focus. 2 different car's, one isn't really that much better than the other.
When it comes to how advanced they are, both just have the standard Chassis fundamentally, so neither is really leaps and bounds ahead of the other.
Today, the 1600CVH RST engine is being tuned to more than double its factory horsepower, as is the Cossie. So, both are around the same in those stakes. A few people have taken both Cossie and RST beyond that too. There are some 2.0 Cossie's which are beyond 500bhp and some 1.6 RST's which are beyond 300bhp.
So, does it just boil down to image?
If that's the case, can you seriously tell me that in 2007 you really feel any better driving a 17-18 year old Cossie than I do driving my 17-18 year old RST? If so, I have no idea why. A Cossie is just as much a Chav-wagon as an RST. It's in the eye of the beholder IMO and almost everyone except for those that actually own the Cossie's thinks that, just as they do about RST's.
The difference for me is that my RST doesn't cost alot to maintain. A Cossie however still suffers from the dreaded Cossie-tax. No thank you!!
[/rant over]
even in basic form the sierra and the escort are totally diffrent cars,thats a pretty stupid thing to say
fiesta,escort,orion,mondeo--similar
sierra,capri,granada-similar
theres nothing similar about fwd and rwd sorry
sapphire,maverick,explorer similar
in my case ha ha i wouldnt go that far the saph 4x4 and esco are still rwd mounted and 66 split to rear so basically same with extra help from the front
i liked that one though that was good mate
02-04-2007, 09:38 PM
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series one RST is one of fords best looking cars ever...
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
02-04-2007, 09:43 PM
#67
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you hit the nail on the head pal,its down to the hands that are putting it together imo too.you know you are safe with a good few. harvey,martin,karl.mark etc but there are people i just wouldnt trust,some with so called big names.
im a clown at heart and couldnt resist Lee Reynolds
you hit the nail on the head pal,its down to the hands that are putting it together imo too.you know you are safe with a good few. harvey,martin,karl.mark etc
but there are people i just wouldnt trust,some with so called big names.
03-04-2007, 04:07 PM
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There both as reliable as each other in my opinion. You get good and bad examples of both, just like any car.
I know any car can go wrong at any time, but generally speaking, a cars reliability depends on how its been maintained and how its been looked after by its previous owners in my opinion.
I know any car can go wrong at any time, but generally speaking, a cars reliability depends on how its been maintained and how its been looked after by its previous owners in my opinion.
04-04-2007, 08:31 PM
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I think another point worth mentioning is that cossies are a more expensive better spec'd car in the first place (engine wise)
But now the difference in actually buying them isnt that different, so if you can afford to run a cossie it would probably be your first choice????
If you can afford to run one..........
But now the difference in actually buying them isnt that different, so if you can afford to run a cossie it would probably be your first choice????
If you can afford to run one..........
05-04-2007, 08:22 AM
#71
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
series one RST is one of fords best looking cars ever...
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
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05-04-2007, 08:27 AM
#72
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
series one RST is one of fords best looking cars ever...
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
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do we have proof you still own yours cliff?its been so long lol.
05-04-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
series one RST is one of fords best looking cars ever...
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
Back to the top for the Series One owners
05-04-2007, 08:30 AM
#74
Originally Posted by NIL 7717
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
series one RST is one of fords best looking cars ever...
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
Reliablilty wise i think they are matched. Depends what you do to them, who does it and how well its done.
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do we have proof you still own yours cliff?its been so long lol. I mean come on; Southend chips aren't that tasty that even an animal would beg for them
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