Wasted spark problem SHE BLOODY RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!
13-04-2007, 06:43 AM
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I've put a monitor in the car to check it out when i can.
bit reluctant to try my ecu on the car when the ecu and amps are getting so hot
bit reluctant to try my ecu on the car when the ecu and amps are getting so hot
13-04-2007, 07:38 AM
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did you by any chance unplug the connector for the crank sensor & the knock sensor and by accident got these the wrong way round?
cause i'd just done tis when putting my engine back together and has same issues as you fuel pump running all the time varied spark no injector cycle
swapped connectors back over and up it started oh the connectors are white
I'm running a L8 with Coil-pack and stage 3 setup
cause i'd just done tis when putting my engine back together and has same issues as you fuel pump running all the time varied spark no injector cycle
swapped connectors back over and up it started oh the connectors are white
I'm running a L8 with Coil-pack and stage 3 setup
13-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by the original
I've put a monitor in the car to check it out when i can.
bit reluctant to try my ecu on the car when the ecu and amps are getting so hot
bit reluctant to try my ecu on the car when the ecu and amps are getting so hot
13-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by silky16v
did you by any chance unplug the connector for the crank sensor & the knock sensor and by accident got these the wrong way round?
cause i'd just done tis when putting my engine back together and has same issues as you fuel pump running all the time varied spark no injector cycle
swapped connectors back over and up it started oh the connectors are white
I'm running a L8 with Coil-pack and stage 3 setup
cause i'd just done tis when putting my engine back together and has same issues as you fuel pump running all the time varied spark no injector cycle
swapped connectors back over and up it started oh the connectors are white
I'm running a L8 with Coil-pack and stage 3 setup
nah never took them off mate they still sit there pluged
13-04-2007, 05:49 PM
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Definitely sounds like an odd, intermittent problem, which would make you think wiring or something like an ignition amp. Do I remember someone else saying their (perfectly functioning) car sparked the plugs when the ignition switch was only in position two as well? So that's not out of the ordinary? Can that person tell us if he gets the weak/strong/intermittent sparks that you're getting at switch position two (i.e. not position three, trying to start the engine)?
Have you tried different ignition amps yet?
Bloody nightmare, but it's great to see the effort everyone's putting in for you, good on you all!
Have you tried different ignition amps yet?
Bloody nightmare, but it's great to see the effort everyone's putting in for you, good on you all!
13-04-2007, 05:51 PM
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Roosie - As I sometimes ask people on fiestaturbo.com to do with bizarre issues like this, do you fancy taking some nice big clear pictures all around the engine bay? Show up potential error points, i.e. wiring, connectors and anything else. Gives people something to look at, and an obvious issue might jump out 
We're at that stage where anything's worth a shot hey? 
You are definitely getting fuel aren't you? And do we know that when cranking the spark plugs are all firing okay now? Sorry, it's a long thread to remember all the details from with MSN convo's interrupting thought paths!
We're at that stage where anything's worth a shot hey? You are definitely getting fuel aren't you? And do we know that when cranking the spark plugs are all firing okay now? Sorry, it's a long thread to remember all the details from with MSN convo's interrupting thought paths!
13-04-2007, 05:53 PM
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[quote="heeman10"]Do I remember someone else saying their (perfectly functioning) car sparked the plugs when the ignition switch was only in position two as well?[quote]
yes mine does this and is otherwise fine
yes mine does this and is otherwise fine
13-04-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by heeman10
Roosie - As I sometimes ask people on fiestaturbo.com to do with bizarre issues like this, do you fancy taking some nice big clear pictures all around the engine bay? Show up potential error points, i.e. wiring, connectors and anything else. Gives people something to look at, and an obvious issue might jump out We're at that stage where anything's worth a shot hey?
You are definitely getting fuel aren't you? And do we know that when cranking the spark plugs are all firing okay now? Sorry, it's a long thread to remember all the details from with MSN convo's interrupting thought paths!
We're at that stage where anything's worth a shot hey? You are definitely getting fuel aren't you? And do we know that when cranking the spark plugs are all firing okay now? Sorry, it's a long thread to remember all the details from with MSN convo's interrupting thought paths!
there deffo no spark on turnover but an absoulute animal of spark on ignition i mean it will ark across 50mmm easerly and the coil hums slightly but this has been tested and ok.
im going to see what "the original" IAW moniter says and hopefully will tell me something
13-04-2007, 06:36 PM
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Loads of fuel and 50mm sparks, great combo 
I hope the monitor shows something up, get back on here with the results when you've done it
I hope the monitor shows something up, get back on here with the results when you've done it
13-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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I cant help but think there is an ECU issue here still, but the odds of you having 2 faulty ecu drivers is incredibly slim, as is teh chance we installed both badly.
Youve allready tried another chip, so that rules that out. I am almost out of ideas here mate.
What i may do is assemble another L8 Ecu with a driver and send it to you. I am not sure if we have a spare though, so will check tomorrow.
Youve allready tried another chip, so that rules that out. I am almost out of ideas here mate.
What i may do is assemble another L8 Ecu with a driver and send it to you. I am not sure if we have a spare though, so will check tomorrow.
13-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2wd
Originally Posted by Daveesaunders
If your tacho reads as normal you wont need to fit the mod, I took my clocks apart and found they were different to the instructions so I put them back in the car without doing the mod and it is fine.
.. ok ..so did your tacho look like this ??
13-04-2007, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I cant help but think there is an ECU issue here still, but the odds of you having 2 faulty ecu drivers is incredibly slim, as is the chance we installed both badly.
Youve allready tried another chip, so that rules that out. I am almost out of ideas here mate.
What i may do is assemble another L8 Ecu with a driver and send it to you. I am not sure if we have a spare though, so will check tomorrow.
Youve allready tried another chip, so that rules that out. I am almost out of ideas here mate.
What i may do is assemble another L8 Ecu with a driver and send it to you. I am not sure if we have a spare though, so will check tomorrow.
i suppose these dont get checked when they leave yours stu?
are you at APT on sunday?
13-04-2007, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Roosie
i very much doubt i would have it done by apt rr day so ill have to run s1 instead
i suppose these dont get checked when they leave yours Stu?
are you at APT on sunday?
i suppose these dont get checked when they leave yours Stu?
are you at APT on sunday?
Cant you have teh car recovered here somehow?
13-04-2007, 09:36 PM
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i would love to get car there but too far lol
there are no proper cossie specialist around here either
nah i very much doubt its something u have done but i may have blown something in ecu or something im oing to see when "the original" can stick is iaw moniter on and see if he can see anything
there are no proper cossie specialist around here either
nah i very much doubt its something u have done but i may have blown something in ecu or something im oing to see when "the original" can stick is iaw moniter on and see if he can see anything
14-04-2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Daveesaunders
Originally Posted by 2wd
Originally Posted by Daveesaunders
If your tacho reads as normal you wont need to fit the mod, I took my clocks apart and found they were different to the instructions so I put them back in the car without doing the mod and it is fine.
.. ok ..so did your tacho look like this ?? ...but please send some pic's when you get the time to do it.. 
14-04-2007, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by silky16v
Just on the off chance rossie where about are you located?
As i have the same setup on my car and if you not a million miles away i might be able to help
As i have the same setup on my car and if you not a million miles away i might be able to help
He`s about 305 miles away from you,and 216 miles from me........I had thought of popping over to help him out but it`s just a little bit far...
14-04-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Originally Posted by silky16v
Just on the off chance rossie where about are you located?
As i have the same setup on my car and if you not a million miles away i might be able to help
As i have the same setup on my car and if you not a million miles away i might be able to help
He`s about 305 miles away from you,and 216 miles from me........I had thought of popping over to help him out but it`s just a little bit far...
Think i rang ya other day but you must still been in germany got problem sorted though you get saph fixed ok?
16-04-2007, 07:53 PM
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Excellent, that means i can charge you for an hours labour installing a new driver.
Only joking pal, feel sad for you having all this trouble with her.
Why not try recounting your steps and listing EVERYTHING that happened to your car since the moment you removed the ecu and sent it to me. In fact, everything thats happened since you last had her running...
Only joking pal, feel sad for you having all this trouble with her.
Why not try recounting your steps and listing EVERYTHING that happened to your car since the moment you removed the ecu and sent it to me. In fact, everything thats happened since you last had her running...
16-04-2007, 08:06 PM
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i have thats the problem all i done was
change map sensor
change injectors
and take the old coil,leads off and fit new amp,coilpack and ecu
really buggered what i can do
ive just bought another l8 ecu which im going to stick my old coil and dizzt cap ect on and try it back the old way.
that should be here thursday
change map sensor
change injectors
and take the old coil,leads off and fit new amp,coilpack and ecu
really buggered what i can do
ive just bought another l8 ecu which im going to stick my old coil and dizzt cap ect on and try it back the old way.
that should be here thursday