Uprated Actuator EsCos T25
28-03-2007, 10:28 AM
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Uprated Actuator EsCos T25
I was wondering what type of uprated actuator I can buy for my T25 EsCos???
And what type is the original black actuator?
Is it possible (for example) to fit an -31 actuator??
Car spec's:
- Group N gasket
- Magnex exhaust (without Cat)
- K&N panel filter
- Forge DV
- Superchip (on standard turbo pressure because I don't have an uprated fuelpump and pressure valve atm )
Thanks
And what type is the original black actuator?
Is it possible (for example) to fit an -31 actuator??
Car spec's:
- Group N gasket
- Magnex exhaust (without Cat)
- K&N panel filter
- Forge DV
- Superchip (on standard turbo pressure because I don't have an uprated fuelpump and pressure valve atm )
Thanks
28-03-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
For small turbos, I thought it was a -34. That's what I had fitted on mine by TurboSystems, before the big turbo conversion was done.
right,...and....
the question was, "Is it possible (for example) to fit an -31 actuator??"
and i replied yes....
in the same way that a -34 can be fitted,....
btw redkop,...was it a large amount of cash you handed over for the conversion??? just out of curiosity
28-03-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlsworth
Originally Posted by Redkop
For small turbos, I thought it was a -34. That's what I had fitted on mine by TurboSystems, before the big turbo conversion was done.
right,...and....
the question was, "Is it possible (for example) to fit an -31 actuator??"
and i replied yes....
in the same way that a -34 can be fitted,....
btw redkop,...was it a large amount of cash you handed over for the conversion??? just out of curiosity
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28-03-2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsworth
depends....
if its standard turbo then -31 will be good to hold stronger boost due to spring...
but if its stage 1 spec or higher, then -34
if its standard turbo then -31 will be good to hold stronger boost due to spring...
but if its stage 1 spec or higher, then -34
which brand is the best to buy?
28-03-2007, 10:59 PM
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If you fit a -31 to a Std T28 EEC Escos it will hit teh overboost limit every time you accelerate. its ok for chipped ones.
If you fit a 34 it will do the same, even if chipped as its far too strong. You may find you have to disable the boost solenoid even when chipped. Not the way to do it really, but some chips actually utilise this as a "Feature" lol.
The -31 and -34 are not officially available in T28 or 34 size, and as far as i am aware, i am the only person in teh world who supplies them in teh correct cannister and shaft format as i used to work at teh place that makes them for garrett and have them made specially for me.
Uprated actuators are not all the same. I have never seen a non garrett actuator fitted with a genuine garrett -31 or -34 spring. Ever. They normally come with an 8 or 14 instead, even when they call it a -X
Hope this helps.
If you fit a 34 it will do the same, even if chipped as its far too strong. You may find you have to disable the boost solenoid even when chipped. Not the way to do it really, but some chips actually utilise this as a "Feature" lol.
The -31 and -34 are not officially available in T28 or 34 size, and as far as i am aware, i am the only person in teh world who supplies them in teh correct cannister and shaft format as i used to work at teh place that makes them for garrett and have them made specially for me.
Uprated actuators are not all the same. I have never seen a non garrett actuator fitted with a genuine garrett -31 or -34 spring. Ever. They normally come with an 8 or 14 instead, even when they call it a -X
Hope this helps.
28-03-2007, 11:11 PM
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very interesting stu...
but think turbo technics may think differently...
i understand the reasons why you put what you did, and you probably have a better knowledge than tt about how useable the actuators are on st escos
however,...
whenever i have enquired regarding customers vehicles, they have said differently..
but think turbo technics may think differently...
i understand the reasons why you put what you did, and you probably have a better knowledge than tt about how useable the actuators are on st escos
however,...
whenever i have enquired regarding customers vehicles, they have said differently..
28-03-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsworth
very interesting Stu...
but think turbo technics may think differently...
i understand the reasons why you put what you did, and you probably have a better knowledge than tt about how useable the actuators are on st escos however,...
whenever i have enquired regarding customers vehicles, they have said differently..
but think turbo technics may think differently...
i understand the reasons why you put what you did, and you probably have a better knowledge than tt about how useable the actuators are on st escos however,...
whenever i have enquired regarding customers vehicles, they have said differently..
The simple fact of teh matter is this, Garrett have only ever actually produced one -31 and -34. Given that it IS teh part number, that is of course not surprising, as if they did a different one it would likely have a DIFFERENT part number.
Unless of course your talking about boost pressures and not fitment?
28-03-2007, 11:45 PM
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stu, my car has the usual stg 1 superchip fitted and is using a different actuator from standard, (well it's not black coloured like standard ones), the amal valve is electronicley disconnected and if connected causes it to hit the boost limit exactly as you describe, so what actuator could be fitted to mine?
difficult I know without seeing it lol
also I have a GG "305" capsule in my stash of parts whats involved in fitting this? A uprated fuel pump(don't know if it is already) and regulator or is the bin a good option? lol
steve
difficult I know without seeing it lol
also I have a GG "305" capsule in my stash of parts whats involved in fitting this? A uprated fuel pump(don't know if it is already) and regulator or is the bin a good option? lol
steve
29-03-2007, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
If you fit a -31 to a Std T28 EEC Escos it will hit the overboost limit every time you accelerate. its ok for chipped ones.
If you fit a 34 it will do the same, even if chipped as its far too strong. You may find you have to disable the boost solenoid even when chipped. Not the way to do it really, but some chips actually utilise this as a "Feature" lol.
The -31 and -34 are not officially available in T28 or 34 size, and as far as i am aware, i am the only person in the world who supplies them in the correct cannister and shaft format as i used to work at the place that makes them for garrett and have them made specially for me.
Uprated actuators are not all the same. I have never seen a non garrett actuator fitted with a genuine garrett -31 or -34 spring. Ever. They normally come with an 8 or 14 instead, even when they call it a -X
Hope this helps.
If you fit a 34 it will do the same, even if chipped as its far too strong. You may find you have to disable the boost solenoid even when chipped. Not the way to do it really, but some chips actually utilise this as a "Feature" lol.
The -31 and -34 are not officially available in T28 or 34 size, and as far as i am aware, i am the only person in the world who supplies them in the correct cannister and shaft format as i used to work at the place that makes them for garrett and have them made specially for me.
Uprated actuators are not all the same. I have never seen a non garrett actuator fitted with a genuine garrett -31 or -34 spring. Ever. They normally come with an 8 or 14 instead, even when they call it a -X
Hope this helps.
So if I understand it correct, you can't fit a -31 actuator from (for example) a Saff 4x4 cos??
I have one at home from Garret (used it for 4 weeks, since then it's never been used
)What is the price for a -31 if I buy one from you ??
29-03-2007, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by the youth
Stu, my car has the usual stg 1 superchip fitted and is using a different actuator from standard, (well it's not black coloured like standard ones), the amal valve is electronicley disconnected and if connected causes it to hit the boost limit exactly as you describe, so what actuator could be fitted to mine?
difficult I know without seeing it lol
also I have a GG "305" capsule in my stash of parts whats involved in fitting this? A uprated fuel pump(don't know if it is already) and regulator or is the bin a good option? lol
Steve
difficult I know without seeing it lol
also I have a GG "305" capsule in my stash of parts whats involved in fitting this? A uprated fuel pump(don't know if it is already) and regulator or is the bin a good option? lol
Steve
And can you disconnect the amal valve without any problems??
29-03-2007, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by T S M
youth the original superchips conversion used an 18 psi actuator with the lectron valve disconected
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
29-03-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Ford
Originally Posted by T S M
youth the original superchips conversion used an 18 psi actuator with the lectron valve disconected
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
Small turbo Escort uses a lectron valve rather than an amal valve
29-03-2007, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by Mr.Ford
Originally Posted by T S M
youth the original superchips conversion used an 18 psi actuator with the lectron valve disconected
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
Small turbo Escort uses a lectron valve rather than an amal valve
30-03-2007, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by Mr.Ford
Originally Posted by T S M
youth the original superchips conversion used an 18 psi actuator with the lectron valve disconected
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
Small turbo Escort uses a lectron valve rather than an amal valve
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30-03-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the youth
Originally Posted by Mr.Ford
Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by Mr.Ford
Originally Posted by T S M
youth the original superchips conversion used an 18 psi actuator with the lectron valve disconected
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
It is important to use the actuator that the chip programmer mapped for
Small turbo Escort uses a lectron valve rather than an amal valve
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