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Old 09-03-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Equal length drive shafts on FWD fords

What are the benefit's and what FWD fords have them?
Old 09-03-2007, 05:36 PM
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Is FWD ,, Front wheel drive , or Four wheel drive ???
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usually FWD is front wheel drive, i thought 4wd fords had equal length shafts straight out of the box.

equal length drive shafts help to reduce torque steer allegedly
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FWD=Front wheel drive
4WD=4 Wheel drive

I was wanting to know about it in front wheel drive ford cars?
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Jano @ Oddkid Creations does an equal length shaft kit if memory serves me right, drop him a pm
Old 09-03-2007, 06:13 PM
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does he really???




hmmmmmmm



hope he sees this then, i woul dlike to know some more


i knew he done uprated ones (thicker i think) but then i would rather do a shaft then a box
Old 09-03-2007, 06:23 PM
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i believe so, think you need an MTX75 box tho.

someone on pf has an equal length set up on their escort... ive seen it but cant remember 100% who.

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mtx damm it
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Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
FWD=Front wheel drive
4WD=4 Wheel drive

I was wanting to know about it in front wheel drive ford cars?
Sorry i asked
Old 09-03-2007, 06:50 PM
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Mk5 Fiesta does. Well, the Zetec-S at least.
Old 09-03-2007, 07:00 PM
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friend of mine has just fitted a MTX-75 box to his S1

equal length drive shafts help reduce wheelspin and torque steer
Old 09-03-2007, 07:12 PM
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I swear some ome MK1 Fiestas do
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Default Re: Equel length drive shafts on FWD fords

Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
What are the benefit's and what FWD fords have them?
how can anyone have equel lenth drive shafts on a fwd car when the gearbox is offset to the passenger side ???????
Old 09-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Equel length drive shafts on FWD fords

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Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
What are the benefit's and what FWD fords have them?
how can anyone have equel lenth drive shafts on a fwd car when the gearbox is offset to the passenger side ???????
they use 3 shafts, its a strange set up, all will come clear when jano spots this thread i assume
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Default Re: Equel length drive shafts on FWD fords

Originally Posted by Red16
Originally Posted by crazycage
Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
What are the benefit's and what FWD fords have them?
how can anyone have equel lenth drive shafts on a fwd car when the gearbox is offset to the passenger side ???????
they use 3 shafts, its a strange set up, all will come clear when jano spots this thread i assume
i wouldnt mind seeing a pic of this ?
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quaife use to do them



just not been arsed to chase them up about in the past
Old 09-03-2007, 08:10 PM
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mk1 xr2's had this set up
the off side shaft was solidly mounted from the box to a mount on the engine then uses a shaft the same length as the near side
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The system can work very well, my mate had a Calibra turbo lump in a Vectra with equal lengh shafts and that had good traction and little torque steer
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cool thanks guy
Old 10-03-2007, 12:19 AM
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mk4/5/6 fiesta's use this also some focus's.
Old 10-03-2007, 07:11 AM
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all the info is out there. Just not on public forums where all my ideas get raped.
Old 10-03-2007, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
all the info is out there. Just not on public forums where all my ideas get raped.
Ford thought of these 1st
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Actually they didnt think of them first, they copied another well know design.
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Indeed, i believe it was chrysler who first thought and used the idea.

1.3/1.6 mk1 fiestas had it as did mk2 1.3&1.4 i think!

Not sure if it will cure torque steer or not though? anyone who's driven a high spec mk1 xr2 in the wet will tell you theres plenty of torque steer!
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
all the info is out there.
Where is it please?
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on my site the info is...

ALSO EQUAL LENGTH WILL HELP IN SO MANY WAYS!!!!
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your site please?
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The job would basically consist of a custom offside 2 piece shaft but when I looked into them it was from a Zetec bottom end point of view as they have the rear mount bracket for the two piece shaft. Not sure what you would do about CVH as I've no idea whether the CVH bottom ends had the same brackets

I recon that prob shaft company in luton could make you one if you had the measurements
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Originally Posted by James
Not sure if it will cure torque steer or not though? anyone who's driven a high spec mk1 xr2 in the wet will tell you theres plenty of torque steer!
you not thinking of wheelspin instead of torque steer?

you would need the tyres to grip for it to be torque steering
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Dean at Shepherds converted his XR2 to run equal length driveshafts with the centre bearing design as per the later Fiesta's and for sure the Fiesta ST.

Give him a ring as I know for a fact it was constructed from existing O/E Ford parts that for relatively little cost can be converted to most CVH / ZVH / Zetec / BC / IB5 combo's AFAIK.

Shepherds, 01245 477999
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good work dave


they open now
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Originally Posted by PF Dave
Dean at Shepherds converted his XR2 to run equal length driveshafts with the centre bearing design as per the later Fiesta's and for sure the Fiesta ST.

Give him a ring as I know for a fact it was constructed from existing O/E Ford parts that for relatively little cost can be converted to most CVH / ZVH / Zetec / BC / IB5 combo's AFAIK.

Shepherds, 01245 477999
wonder if he can fit me 1 before the grudge match or use it to his advantage and say he's out of parts
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i run a equal drive shaft setup on my TT.


They come std on 1.4s mk2 fiesta's.
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Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
i run a equal drive shaft setup on my TT.


They come std on 1.4s mk2 fiesta's.
well i didnt know that
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just finished putting mtx7 box in my motor,i have used 3 piece driveshaft setup,it is easier to do when you have zetec block as the mounting point for the bracket to hold shaft on is already there,it does need modified though,as does everything else,nothing is a straight bolt on when doin this conversion,just hope its worth it!!!
but both my outer shafts are exactly the same size,therefore keeping torquesteer to a minimum.
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Dan - why only on the 1.4's? What box is it?

I'd want it on an MTX75 - prob the most desired thing for me.
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
i run a equal drive shaft setup on my TT.


They come std on 1.4s mk2 fiesta's.
well i didnt know that

the first fiesta i turbo'd was a 1.4s.


But i have done back to back tests with equal and std drive shafts, and to be honest their wasn't much difference on my 190 bhp mk2.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Dan - why only on the 1.4's? What box is it?

I'd want it on an MTX75 - prob the most desired thing for me.

it runs a std 5 speed bc box, the only reason i can think of, is the 1.4s was brought out in 1987/8, and was a newer design compared to the xr2.
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
The job would basically consist of a custom offside 2 piece shaft but when I looked into them it was from a Zetec bottom end point of view as they have the rear mount bracket for the two piece shaft. Not sure what you would do about CVH as I've no idea whether the CVH bottom ends had the same brackets

I recon that prob shaft company in luton could make you one if you had the measurements
If i remember correctly mk1 fez supersports and xr2s had this setup as well as mk2 1.4cvhs. mk4/5 fiesta have it and i believe some escorts. by using a combination of fiesta/escort parts it wouldnt be hard to make suitable shafts for a mk3/4 escort as ive mix/matched escort/fiesta shafts when putting xflows into mk1 fiestas and an original xr2 shaft is unavailable. Give a company called shaftec a ring or look through their application guide and it will give dimensions of every shaft they do. its also useful for the V******L boys when putting redtops in their N**As and arstras


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