Policeman punching a woman outside a nightclub..
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Originally Posted by Westy
I grew up in a detached (spl??) house.. so that wouldnt be strictly true either..
anyways.. thats my lot..
anyways.. thats my lot..
bet you trained the adams family
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Oh and another thing whilst on my soap box....if you think police are above and beyond the law then think again.....If we are under any sort of investigation we get treated a far lot worse than the what criminals do..any of the Coppers on here will relate to DPS proceedures.
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metpol your in the game,,,, i work at a parts place and i see dodgy people in my work,,,, im guesing you do aswell and there the ones who DO cause the problems,,, thats why theres issues
as for going the meets,,,, was nice to see you and your missus at southend last night,,,, though next time leave the company car at home as every time you went for a drive round the action stopped, nice mondeo btw
as for going the meets,,,, was nice to see you and your missus at southend last night,,,, though next time leave the company car at home as every time you went for a drive round the action stopped, nice mondeo btw
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
Originally Posted by Westy
I grew up in a detached (spl??) house.. so that wouldnt be strictly true either..
anyways.. thats my lot..
anyways.. thats my lot..
bet you trained the adams family
I got lucky
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Originally Posted by Metpol
Oh and another thing whilst on my soap box....if you think police are above and beyond the law then think again.....If we are under any sort of investigation we get treated a far lot worse than the what criminals do..any of the Coppers on here will relate to DPS proceedures.
im about to make a official complaint as my missus called me at work when it happened crying her eyes out scared and the police station have said she should have just asked who it was at the door
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Originally Posted by Westy
Originally Posted by Ginge !
Originally Posted by Westy
I grew up in a detached (spl??) house.. so that wouldnt be strictly true either..
anyways.. thats my lot..
anyways.. thats my lot..
bet you trained the adams family
I got lucky
or was it the success of your films that payed for the house
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Ocourse there will be good and bad in every job mate, but would u like to be branded a cunt just bacause of some twat at your work place. people who work in parts places dont make headline news when someone gets twatted...Police do as apparently thats what we like doing and we are these clean cut people who have never had run ins with police ever in our lives.
and as for southend, well i can take being called a cunt and whatever but never relate me to essex police..thats where i draw the line.
sorry guys who are county mounties
and as for southend, well i can take being called a cunt and whatever but never relate me to essex police..thats where i draw the line.
sorry guys who are county mounties
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when restrainment is needed the police have the right to use it
ffs they are the law
ffs they are the law
Restraining and giving someone a dig are two completely different things
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you have never taken coke before have you
it does make you a angry fooker,,,,, it dont turn you into bionic man,,,, the guy was a strong bloke who happened to like a toot
i got bottled a few years ago twice at once on both sides of the head,,,, EVERYONE tells me im talking shite cause i would be knocked out cold,,,,, but i wasnt,,,, maybe that was the coke too
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She was being a cunt and got slapped like one....
More cops should give out kickings make the crims scared of them again and i bet by bollox to a barn dance shit would quiet down...
She was being a cunt and got slapped like one....
More cops should give out kickings make the crims scared of them again and i bet by bollox to a barn dance shit would quiet down...
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Lee I agree with you, I know quite a few knob heads in the job and to be honest they are the last person I would want to see at any incident..but like I said you get that in every job. I wouldnt hate all postal workers because the bloke who delivers my post is a bell end
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they was here for a genuine reason to be fair,,,, was a court warrant cause they never got in contact to be a whitness in court the night before ( which leads me on to another question) why dont they tell us when we are needed like they CLAIM the do rather than get a court warrant when we dont arrive
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[quote="Ginge !"]
but is that correct mate,,,,was we there,,,, does PUNCHING actally subdue a person,,, is that part of his EXPENSIVE training to restrain people
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Err the short answer to the above is YES.
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Serves the chavvy bitch right IMHO
its bit like this which people will miss when spitting their dummy about it:
If I was a copper and some chavvy pissed up bird who has just committed criminal damage started grabbing my bollocks when I was trying to arrest her I would punch her too.
its bit like this which people will miss when spitting their dummy about it:
In a statement, Pc Mulhall said Ms Comer had tried to grab his genitals and knee, and that he had punched her to subdue her and then to "deaden her arm"
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Err the short answer to the above is YES.
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Lee I agree with you, I know quite a few knob heads in the job and to be honest they are the last person I would want to see at any incident..but like I said you get that in every job. I wouldnt hate all postal workers because the bloke who delivers my post is a bell end
oh and the post office peeps drink in the screws club on the back of pentonville prison,,,,, maybe they are the same as the police
btw the reason i know this is i used to be a reserve in the darts team as a old mate was a screw in "the vile" ( see RC4,,,, i HAVE got a story for everything
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Originally Posted by Metpol
sorry guys who are county mounties
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I wont try and defend why the Police kicked your door as your right its not professional and if it was my door and my missus inside I would have been p right off also.
The thing with court warrants is that they can be issued right at the end of court when the magistrate or judge whatever decides that a person is required. Unfortunately this then get passed to the relevent CJU at your local police station who have generally have gone home at 5pm. Its then left with some poor sod to create a cad message after receiving a telephone call from the CPS who only has a persons name and address and no other contact dets because the CJU which has all the paperwork has closed for the day.
Its not down to Police mate when people need warning..its down to courts. Generally they make a hash of things.
Personally mate I would blame the criminal justice departments
The thing with court warrants is that they can be issued right at the end of court when the magistrate or judge whatever decides that a person is required. Unfortunately this then get passed to the relevent CJU at your local police station who have generally have gone home at 5pm. Its then left with some poor sod to create a cad message after receiving a telephone call from the CPS who only has a persons name and address and no other contact dets because the CJU which has all the paperwork has closed for the day.
Its not down to Police mate when people need warning..its down to courts. Generally they make a hash of things.
Personally mate I would blame the criminal justice departments
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Stevetoon you know we love u county mounties...It always makes us laugh when we get an essex or county bod come to the met..its the look of disbelief over the way we deal with things.... its a case of where do we park the horses yehaw!! lol
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Originally Posted by Metpol
Stevetoon you know we love u county mounties...It always makes us laugh when we get an essex or county bod come to the met..its the look of disbelief over the way we deal with things.... its a case of where do we park the horses yehaw!! lol
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metpol cant i just blame all police as a whole unit as its no fun blaming a telephone number,,,,, and for the record im complaining cause i was VERY freeked out at the though of someone scaring my missus in that way and i felt helpless at work and feel they should AT FUCKING LEAST shouted they was police at the door ( though to be fair i would ALSO moan that they done that as i dont want my neighbours hearing that,,,, so they was kind of screwed what ever they done)
IF they would have used the fucking intercom system we pay within our 30 quid a month service fucking charge rather than use ANOTHER persons one to get them IN then none of this would have happened,,,, but i guess its natural to no trust people just like the people dont trust the police due to bad experiences
as i said i dont have a issue with the police,,,, when i got nicked doing 90ish whilst using a mobile you didnt hear me crying about it,,,, i accepted my fine and drove on,but then again the copper seen me answer rhe phone, hang up, read a text message, look for a number in my phone book then make another call so you could say i was bang to rights,,,,, though i didnt like the " your lucky its no tuesday mate as you would have got another 3 points,,,,, hes version of luck and mine aint the same as mine would have been he seen me then his cambelt snapped before he could ask me to pull over,,,,,, but everyone has different opinions,,,,, actually im just glad he didnt first clock me doing 130 cause i slowed down to 90 to use my phone
IF they would have used the fucking intercom system we pay within our 30 quid a month service fucking charge rather than use ANOTHER persons one to get them IN then none of this would have happened,,,, but i guess its natural to no trust people just like the people dont trust the police due to bad experiences
as i said i dont have a issue with the police,,,, when i got nicked doing 90ish whilst using a mobile you didnt hear me crying about it,,,, i accepted my fine and drove on,but then again the copper seen me answer rhe phone, hang up, read a text message, look for a number in my phone book then make another call so you could say i was bang to rights,,,,, though i didnt like the " your lucky its no tuesday mate as you would have got another 3 points,,,,, hes version of luck and mine aint the same as mine would have been he seen me then his cambelt snapped before he could ask me to pull over,,,,,, but everyone has different opinions,,,,, actually im just glad he didnt first clock me doing 130 cause i slowed down to 90 to use my phone
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Old bill are cunts and can kill you and get away with it, they do what they like when they like, Where I come from they are and will always been seen as the enemy,
A necessary evil though you might say, I just don't agree with some of their behaviour and tactics.
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A necessary evil though you might say, I just don't agree with some of their behaviour and tactics.
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i just so wanted to chin that cunt it was unreal, i'm glad the paving slab broke his foot
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The funny thing in all 5 pages of The Ginge & Charlie show is....
No one has asked who had the Chavvy Slappers Troosers down and what were they looking for ?
And all you Police Haters you're just cocks because if anything happened to you or your family they would be the first people you call
Ok there are some awkward b'stards with no sense of humour, but most of them work in Traffic.
I bet the same people who are saying on here about the old bill are the same people who end up down A&E assaulting nurses, or attacking paramedics when they are trying to do there job.
No one has asked who had the Chavvy Slappers Troosers down and what were they looking for ?
And all you Police Haters you're just cocks because if anything happened to you or your family they would be the first people you call
Ok there are some awkward b'stards with no sense of humour, but most of them work in Traffic.
I bet the same people who are saying on here about the old bill are the same people who end up down A&E assaulting nurses, or attacking paramedics when they are trying to do there job.
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And all you Police Haters you're just cocks because if anything happened to you or your family they would be the first people you call
it's the times someone else calls them and they wade in mob handed that is the point of discussion here i think
no one is slaggin off all the police (other than me and charlie ) but you have to admit that there are some coppers out there, be they in the vast minority or the vast amjority, who are just cunts
and we seem to meet these coppers more times that we'd like to, so that would make them the majority wouldn't you say?
perhaps a poll of good vs bad coppering stops would be a better way to resolve this issue
the fact that she was pissed and stroppy and got a few thwacks from a severly pissed off copper who'd had his nuts yanked but hard doens't seem escessive force to me, she got her just deserts
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I aint read any of the other posts so i apologise if i repeat whats been said.
I saw the vid today on GMTV
TBH, (waits to be shot down) I cant understand why they kept saying "black girl" .. it wasnt because she was black it happened, it was because she did damage to a car and apprantly assaulted a copper.. they'd of done the same if it was a white, yellow. green or pink person.
Heard ppl today slagging of the police.. I must be a lucky person, because when ever i have needed the police they have been there.. and i dont have a bad word to say about them. I know its not like that everywhere. And yeah you will get the odd c**t there, but hey you do in every job
I saw the vid today on GMTV
TBH, (waits to be shot down) I cant understand why they kept saying "black girl" .. it wasnt because she was black it happened, it was because she did damage to a car and apprantly assaulted a copper.. they'd of done the same if it was a white, yellow. green or pink person.
Heard ppl today slagging of the police.. I must be a lucky person, because when ever i have needed the police they have been there.. and i dont have a bad word to say about them. I know its not like that everywhere. And yeah you will get the odd c**t there, but hey you do in every job
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Read this very carefully....
Bit harsh for just trying IMO
In a statement, Pc Mulhall said: "As her hands became free she tried to grab handfuls of my genitals and knee and kick me in the same place."
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Originally Posted by arkley
Read this very carefully....
Bit harsh for just trying IMO
In a statement, Pc Mulhall said: "As her hands became free she tried to grab handfuls of my genitals and knee and kick me in the same place."
Maybe he should have let her do it, had bruised bollocks, then wacked her........
Yeh right...
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Originally Posted by arkley
Read this very carefully....
Bit harsh for just trying IMO
In a statement, Pc Mulhall said: "As her hands became free she tried to grab handfuls of my genitals and knee and kick me in the same place."
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OMG i can't beleive i have only just found out about this,
I've only read the first page of this threat but are you all fucking MAD!!!
NO one deserves to get treated like that no matter man or woman, black or white, disabled or not, right or wrong, chav or not!
Thats just way out of line! I have a few friends that are police officers and thank god they are not like that!
There is no way a small girl would be able to do anything with 3 large police officers holding her down so what his saying is complete bollox. looking at the video i can't see her fighting at all just his fist pounding up and down far too many times!
Police have a image to uphold and if people see this what fucking respect can you give police officers who are meant to be protecting us!
Rant over!
I've only read the first page of this threat but are you all fucking MAD!!!
NO one deserves to get treated like that no matter man or woman, black or white, disabled or not, right or wrong, chav or not!
Thats just way out of line! I have a few friends that are police officers and thank god they are not like that!
There is no way a small girl would be able to do anything with 3 large police officers holding her down so what his saying is complete bollox. looking at the video i can't see her fighting at all just his fist pounding up and down far too many times!
Police have a image to uphold and if people see this what fucking respect can you give police officers who are meant to be protecting us!
Rant over!
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Isnt it funny that the majority of people that have a problem with the police procedures seem to be involved in some sort of criminal activity.
And its right what someone said earlier. If you CHOSE to be involved in criminal activity in whatever way, then you deserve everything you get and MORE, in my opinion. How can someone moan that theyve been treated badly by the police when 99% of them are in the WRONG in the first place.
Some people really do amaze me.
And its right what someone said earlier. If you CHOSE to be involved in criminal activity in whatever way, then you deserve everything you get and MORE, in my opinion. How can someone moan that theyve been treated badly by the police when 99% of them are in the WRONG in the first place.
Some people really do amaze me.
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Originally Posted by Hay xr
OMG i can't beleive i have only just found out about this,
I've only read the first page of this threat but are you all fucking MAD!!!
NO one deserves to get treated like that no matter man or woman, black or white, disabled or not, right or wrong, chav or not!
Thats just way out of line! I have a few friends that are police officers and thank god they are not like that!
There is no way a small girl would be able to do anything with 3 large police officers holding her down so what his saying is complete bollox. looking at the video i can't see her fighting at all just his fist pounding up and down far too many times!
Police have a image to uphold and if people see this what fucking respect can you give police officers who are meant to be protecting us!
Rant over!
I've only read the first page of this threat but are you all fucking MAD!!!
NO one deserves to get treated like that no matter man or woman, black or white, disabled or not, right or wrong, chav or not!
Thats just way out of line! I have a few friends that are police officers and thank god they are not like that!
There is no way a small girl would be able to do anything with 3 large police officers holding her down so what his saying is complete bollox. looking at the video i can't see her fighting at all just his fist pounding up and down far too many times!
Police have a image to uphold and if people see this what fucking respect can you give police officers who are meant to be protecting us!
Rant over!
Im not saying its right to hit somoeone on the floor at all, and we cant actually comment on this case properly as none of us were there, but so what if she copped for a dead arm or whatever (whether she grabbed his plums or not). Its the least she deserves. Most other countries do this as a matter of procedure. Again im not saying its right or wrong, but the police abroad are respected more because if this in my opinion.
As an example, has anyone seen costa del street crime on bravo? the cops are allowed to give anyone a clip or slap, and 99% of the time, the issue is resolved there and then.
And out of interest, what would you have done if you caught someone smashing your car up, and assuming they did have hold of your plums, how would you make them let go?
Its seems pretty obvious to me that he didnt hit her in the face and if he did, i feel that is out of order, especially on a woman, but if that was the case she would have had pretty serious damage to her face as they were pretty hard hits. And is there any damage to her face? It hasnt said there is.
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Originally Posted by Hay xr
OMG i can't beleive i have only just found out about this,
I've only read the first page of this threat but are you all fucking MAD!!!
NO one deserves to get treated like that no matter man or woman, black or white, disabled or not, right or wrong, chav or not!
I've only read the first page of this threat but are you all fucking MAD!!!
NO one deserves to get treated like that no matter man or woman, black or white, disabled or not, right or wrong, chav or not!
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Originally Posted by S1rst
And out of interest, what would you have done if you caught someone smashing your car up, and assuming they did have hold of your plums, how would you make them let go?
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Originally Posted by S1rst
And out of interest, what would you have done if you caught someone smashing your car up, and assuming they did have hold of your plums, how would you make them let go?
He didnt beat her for the offence
Its because she resisted arrest he acted insisde the law. It's not his fault the law allows him to use reasonable force on the drunken lying criminal chav bitch is it?
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Originally Posted by Dannn
Originally Posted by S1rst
And out of interest, what would you have done if you caught someone smashing your car up, and assuming they did have hold of your plums, how would you make them let go?
ok what would you have done in my origianl question above?
Always going to have mixed opinions this and thats fair enough. None of us can really comment on this specific case as none of us were there. The copper may have been out of order according to the law, he may not have been.
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by Dannn
Originally Posted by S1rst
And out of interest, what would you have done if you caught someone smashing your car up, and assuming they did have hold of your plums, how would you make them let go?
But what what you have done in my origianl question above?
Always going to have mixed opinions this and thats fair enough. None of us can really comment on this specific case as none of us were there. The copper may have been out of order according to the law, he may not have been.
They accept that when they take the job and my opinion nor yours actually counts for fuck all!
We including the police have to live within the bounds of the LAW else risk being prosecuted and pay a consequence dished out by either magistrates, judge or jury.
No matter what the offence is the police have NO right to dish out punishment or use more than reasonable force during arrest. They actually have a duty of care when they arrest you and while your in their custody.
......Anyway I find it amusing that people get wound up over a bird causing damage to a car which is bad etc etc etc but no ones going to die over it. However many people speed in their cars, brekaing the law and sometimes risking killing or hurting innocent people. Now someone could consider that worse, would anyone here think it was OK for a copper to 'slap' them if they got pulled doing say 120mph on the motorway????
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by Dannn
Originally Posted by S1rst
And out of interest, what would you have done if you caught someone smashing your car up, and assuming they did have hold of your plums, how would you make them let go?
But what what you have done in my origianl question above?
Always going to have mixed opinions this and thats fair enough. None of us can really comment on this specific case as none of us were there. The copper may have been out of order according to the law, he may not have been.
They accept that when they take the job and my opinion nor yours actually counts for fuck all!
We including the police have to live within the bounds of the LAW else risk being prosecuted and pay a consequence dished out by either magistrates, judge or jury.
No matter what the offence is the police have NO right to dish out punishment or use more than reasonable force during arrest. They actually have a duty of care when they arrest you and while your in their custody.
......Anyway I find it amusing that people get wound up over a bird causing damage to a car which is bad etc etc etc but no ones going to die over it. However many people speed in their cars, brekaing the law and sometimes risking killing or hurting innocent people. Now someone could consider that worse, would anyone here think it was OK for a copper to 'slap' them if they got pulled doing say 120mph on the motorway????
She had a slap for resisting arrest, not for the offence committed.
Christ almighty DUR
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Dannn, but they dont get a dead arm for the actual offence, they get the dead arm/leg for resisting arrest, which is perfectly accetable according to the law as its seen as reasonable force. Whereas a punch to the face would not be acceptable according to the law, as that is seen as unreasonable force, unless of course the officer/s is in great threat and/or being assaulted themselves, or maybe even having their plums squeezed.
Again what would you do?
Again what would you do?