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Old 28-02-2007, 09:29 PM
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My car was in the garage having some bodywork, And when it came back all was fine and the work was excellent. But the next day I pulled down my sun visor to look in the mirror (Inside the sunvisor) and it's all smashed. Any panel beaters on here ever broke one while putting a side on a car?

P.S It was fine when it went in nobody had been in the car other than me.

I've never known one of these to break or get broken. You ever had one break?
Old 28-02-2007, 10:21 PM
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Sunny day...... sun visor down..... test drive, sharp application of the brakes to avoid damaging customer's car......
Old 28-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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ive never come accross one broken

have you contacted them mate
Old 28-02-2007, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Sunny day...... sun visor down..... test drive, sharp application of the brakes to avoid damaging customer's car......
Hope not!
Old 01-03-2007, 12:21 AM
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In all seriousness, I would hope not too.
Old 01-03-2007, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Benni
My car was in the garage having some bodywork, And when it came back all was fine and the work was excellent. But the next day I pulled down my sun visor to look in the mirror (Inside the sunvisor) and it's all smashed. Any panel beaters on here ever broke one while putting a side on a car?

P.S It was fine when it went in nobody had been in the car other than me.

I've never known one of these to break or get broken. You ever had one break?
Stilletto heels can do massive damage these days!!
Old 01-03-2007, 05:08 AM
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That was probly one of the parts not to get smashed in my mk3 escort that i rolled years ago

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Old 01-03-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Sunny day...... sun visor down..... test drive, sharp application of the brakes to avoid damaging customer's car......
How would that work? Surely the sun visor itself would bend back before the glass smashed? And what would smash it his head? Or am I missing something. It's really bugging me as to how this has happend. Do you think you lot would get any clues if I took a photo? Not phoned them yet but will be doing shortly.
Old 01-03-2007, 12:33 PM
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seven years bad karma than Benni.....
maybe the plug ugly member of staff looked in the mirror
and their minging mush broke it .
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
seven years bad karma than Benni.....
maybe the plug ugly member of staff looked in the mirror
and their minging mush broke it .
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:44 PM
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Depends, if it has been baked too long in the oven and the mirror was slightly dodgy, it has been known to crack.

Can you see a central point, or is the crack from side to side?

It happens in our place sometimes with windscreens, a small stone-chip in the windscreen can spread dramatically when in the oven @ 60-80 degrees. Can't see why it would be different with a sunvisor mirror.
Old 01-03-2007, 12:45 PM
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Perhaps, like most garages I know, they leave the keys above the sun visor at night, someone could have thrown the keys up behind the sunvisor and let the visor smack back up and broke the glass
Old 01-03-2007, 12:46 PM
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iansoutham Will go and get a photo mate and see what you think if you dont mind?

richj I'm suprised they leave the keys there.
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Originally Posted by Benni
iansoutham Will go and get a photo mate and see what you think if you dont mind?

richj I'm suprised they leave the keys there.
Yeh, but i live in the back arse of ireland, I have gone to bed with my keys & wallet in the car, left if unlocked and woke up with nothing touched !!!
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The bubble to the top right isn't water, I know it looks like water but it's a a lump. Hope this helps.
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Random!

How you meant to do your makeup in that?!
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Originally Posted by Benni


The bubble to the top right isn't water, I know it looks like water but it's a a lump. Hope this helps.
did jaycos look into it?
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that looks broken mate
i'd be asking what they were up to when it broke
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Benni


The bubble to the top right isn't water, I know it looks like water but it's a a lump. Hope this helps.
did jaycos look into it?

take it he's an ugly cooont!

dojj Would you go up firm or ask nicely? It's still weird how it happend because they repaired the passenger side of the car.
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yeah i'd deffo agree, thats broken!




just phone up the company and tell them, they'll eaither say yeah it's quite common on them when we bake them, or they'll say really? must have happened when me and the office girl took it to test the suspension...
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go back and ask them how it's been broken as it was fine when you left the car with them

don't ask for names and addreses, just ask for it to be repaired as it's not safe having a face full of glass potentially awaitng spearing into your face

have you signed the disclaimer to say everythng was fine?
if so i'm sure you can go back and unsign this
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Originally Posted by dojj
go back and ask them how it's been broken as it was fine when you left the car with them

don't ask for names and addreses, just ask for it to be repaired as it's not safe having a face full of glass potentially awaitng spearing into your face

have you signed the disclaimer to say everythng was fine?
if so i'm sure you can go back and unsign this
I said I wouldn't sign to say everything was OK until my brother had checked the work over. He's a very good well known panel beater where we live and I wanted him to check it over. All I signed for was to say the 'Customer service' was friendly and to my expectations. Will go in tomorrow first thing and see what they have to say.

as it's not safe having a face full of glass potentially awaitng spearing into your face


Think I will remove it for now...
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Benni


The bubble to the top right isn't water, I know it looks like water but it's a a lump. Hope this helps.
did jaycos look into it?
Think your self lucky that Jay has been doing angre management other wise it would have been worse

Cant wait to hear the real reason behind it
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looks like someone has closed the visor with the keys behind it to me seen it happen when i used to work in a bodyshop
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Benni


The bubble to the top right isn't water, I know it looks like water but it's a a lump. Hope this helps.
did jaycos look into it?


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Old 01-03-2007, 08:33 PM
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I would have to agree with the others, that has been damaged. A single crack plus maybe that bump would have been down to heat, but there is a definite impact point.

My suspicion would be that when they have stripped the car out, they have put the parts in the car and something has been smacked into it when they have shut the door or something similar.

We used to get that a lot in my place with interiors, sideskirts and sometimes bumpers until I had some racks made when I joined and had everything moved to storage "units".

Do not take the unit out, if you do, you are nulifying their responsibility because you cannot then prove that it was them or that it is from your car (even with it missing) as you were the last person to fiddle with it. They could argue that you have damaged it removing it and are trying to claim from them. Are there any marks on the rooflining in that location (or near it)? I would place some sellotape over the glass, shut the lid and place the visor to the rooflining until you can get back there. And remember, go in shouting and screaming and you have already lost. Go in nice and polite, ASKING them to see, not TELLING them it is their fault and they will probably be more helpful.

Then, if it fails, contact the insurance company and inform them, and they will withold the appropriate payment until it is sorted out to THEIR (the insurance company) satisfaction.
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iansoutham Fantastic advice mate, I'm just on my way now polite as ever....

Cheers everyone, Benni.
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If its a hatchback then my money is on it getting smashed by the seats headrest when theyve tilted it, and letting it slam forward. We used to have loads of these smash and many windscreens too, especially in the new corsas with the hard plastic headrest backs.
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The garage have refused to pay and said 'It's not possible it could of been done in here as we only moved the car from the carpark to the workshop and back out again. and we never went in the car once while working on it'. Which according to my brother is not possible when putting a full side on a car and I could tell he was talking through his arse before his mouth opened. So I did as people said and phoned my insurance company and explained I was 100% Sure it was done while in the bodyshop and they said 'We will phone the garage and ring you back'. They rang me back and said 'The garage said it was not done there so they are not liable'.

Anyway, the my 'Quest' to find out how it happend has come to a stop, and I'm off to fords tomorow to hopefully buy another one.
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I bet he's bent that. I'm no mirror expert, but he's obviously done something where something's pressed against it and broke it.

Or he's really, really, intensely ugly.
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Originally Posted by StationMiek
I bet he's bent that. I'm no mirror expert, but he's obviously done something where something's pressed against it and broke it.

Or he's really, really, intensely ugly.
When he said 'Well it wasn't me that's for sure' I said' Your not exactly Brad Pitt are you'. He could of bent it but I dont understand why he would need to touch it. Either way I'm buying a new one. Hope there not pricey or I will take my ''Quest' Alot further.
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What car is it from? I'm a scrapyard whore, I'll see if I can accidentally drop one in my tool box.
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Buy one from a dealer and keep the receipt. Do not throw the old one away either.

They must have gone inside the car to put a 1/4 on as you need to strip the inside cards to remove any padding and to gain access for sound-deadening pads, interior rust prevention treatment, cleaning of joints, removal of old materials, sealing of joints with sealer, and to prevent air tools from going through.

Trust me, my bodyshop do quarter panels and whole bodysides every day. If a car needs a 1/4 panel, the interior 1/4 cards and boot lining comeout, all wiring is held up out of danger, rear seat is removed (bench and back on working side) and rooflining either removed if close to repair or covered with flame-proof cover if not removed.

Did you have a whole bodyside or just a 1/4, because a whole bodyside would definitely need visors to be removed, along with a lot more besides.

The only way that they would have needed to not go inside the car for a 1/4 was if they had repaired it with filler, in which case, I would take the panels off inside myself and check, with photographic evidence.

If it has been repaired, go back to the insurance company and state that the repair is not to your satisfaction as the car was not originally repaired with filling materials, and that you would like a 1/4 panel to be fitted. And cause a storm over it.

BTW, you can also state if / when the insurance company back down (which they always do when a customer complains hard enough) that you want it taken elsewhere due to damage caused by the original repairer.

Curiously, can you post a pic or two up of the original damage, I can probably tell you what should and has been done.
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Ive been in the trade 12 years,and ive done it a 1000 times..thats keys under the sun visor,i 99.9% guarente it!!!

Pete...
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How can t be keys under the sun visorwen the mirror has a protective cover???????
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Originally Posted by Damo V
How can t be keys under the sun visorwen the mirror has a protective cover???????
Key under the cover? To make sure they stay where they're put?
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Who said the cover was over the lens???

Do you REALLY think we look whn we have times/hours/bonus to earn???

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