Best handling FWD car?
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Integra easily... Dont see any problems using it every day either. I had a turbocharged Civic with B16A2 engine and 300bhp, used it every day from April to October. So standard or near standart Integra wont be a problem. And if you decide to modify there is much more stuff available for the Integra than Clio. Get a JDM one though, the EDM front looks shit
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my missues has the 172 and it hndles like a treat, i dont know why people bang on about build quality it dosnt rattle or squeak at all inside infact in feels and looks like new, the seats are lovely just get rid of the shite bus steering wheel
and your fine, i reakon her 172 would easily out handle my m3, there pretty nippy as well she has had i little bit of work done, but id say forget the crap that they are bad build quality coz there not,
but id also recommend the itr my mate has one and its a great fun car to own
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but id also recommend the itr my mate has one and its a great fun car to own
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Here is an excerpt from the "Car" mag Best Handling Day 97.
ITR is highly praised but a really honourable mention must go to the 106Gti for value for money and only with 120bhp - only 0.7 seconds behind the ITR - great handling little fwd car as well
Click here for article
I'll scan up the Autocar Best Handling Car 1998 one later with the ITR in if anyone is interested?
ITR is highly praised but a really honourable mention must go to the 106Gti for value for money and only with 120bhp - only 0.7 seconds behind the ITR - great handling little fwd car as well
Click here for article
I'll scan up the Autocar Best Handling Car 1998 one later with the ITR in if anyone is interested?
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Here you go - couldn't get on here at times last night but these
are the links to an article that might interest you on the ITR
It was from an article re the Best Handling Car of 98
Click Here for the Integra Type-R appraisal
Corner Speeds and overall lap times
David Leslie the BTCC driver set all the lap times.
are the links to an article that might interest you on the ITR
It was from an article re the Best Handling Car of 98
Click Here for the Integra Type-R appraisal
Corner Speeds and overall lap times
David Leslie the BTCC driver set all the lap times.
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Racing Puma?
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
I find the clio terribly uncomfortable. Minging driving position and horrible pedals
Totally spoils what looks a fab car ( quality aside ) if only i could fit comfortably in it
Totally spoils what looks a fab car ( quality aside ) if only i could fit comfortably in it
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Gotta be:
Focus RS
Integra Type R
Clio 172/182/cup etc.
106 Gti
Racing puma
I don't really know of any others that are in the same class.
Focus RS
Integra Type R
Clio 172/182/cup etc.
106 Gti
Racing puma
I don't really know of any others that are in the same class.
I think he ruled out the Focus RS initially because of the cost to buy
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some bloke at work keeps telling how much better his old integra r is compared to my FRS
mine would be in a ditch at the first corner according to him
I keep telling thats not cos it doesnt handle its cos the diff has a mind of its own
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
some bloke at work keeps telling how much better his old integra r is compared to my FRS
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Tbh i dont think the itr is that much better in the hands of an average driver thn say a frs BUT its the way the car makes you feel there just SOOOOOOO exciting to drive its untrue. That said it depends what your idea of fun is some like loads of low down power that a turbo gives some find it more fun to rev the cunt out of a car and rev it to 8k on down changes etc
Ye h to k reg (the only shape crx
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Tbh i dont think the itr is that much better in the hands of an average driver thn say a frs BUT its the way the car makes you feel there just SOOOOOOO exciting to drive its untrue. That said it depends what your idea of fun is some like loads of low down power that a turbo gives some find it more fun to rev the cunt out of a car and rev it to 8k on down changes etc
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Tbh i dont think the itr is that much better in the hands of an average driver thn say a frs BUT its the way the car makes you feel there just SOOOOOOO exciting to drive its untrue.
Interesting to see how fast the 106 Gti was considering it's only 120bhp as well
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Thanks Mike for your efforts, I have a basic 106 now so I can understand how good the GTI is, I've had loads of fun undertaking things round islands in the little 1.1 106, I bet the GTI it a right laugh. only thing that puts me off is reliabilty again as its french.
Good call Alps with the CRX, trouble is these days finding a good un, they all have rust and stellar mileage, and anything thats half decent goes up in price by about Ł1500 over a snotter
Cheers again, I'll keep looking..........
Good call Alps with the CRX, trouble is these days finding a good un, they all have rust and stellar mileage, and anything thats half decent goes up in price by about Ł1500 over a snotter
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Cheers again, I'll keep looking..........
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Tbh though the only car i have came up against that could match me in the bends was a old shape impreza which looked to have had some work done, You should have seen his face when i went round the outside of him on a roundabout
And as i've said it would demolish my escort cossie in nearly every situation except straight line pace to 120mph even top speed its quicker. Its 1 of those cars that just keeps you smiling
Tbh though the only car i have came up against that could match me in the bends was a old shape impreza which looked to have had some work done, You should have seen his face when i went round the outside of him on a roundabout
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And as i've said it would demolish my escort cossie in nearly every situation except straight line pace to 120mph even top speed its quicker. Its 1 of those cars that just keeps you smiling
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My mat has a high miler that needs a lick of paint, its got about 175bhp and is rot free and straight but just tatty. He wont be after a fortune for it but as said its not a minter just a cheap fun little car
My mat has a high miler that needs a lick of paint, its got about 175bhp and is rot free and straight but just tatty. He wont be after a fortune for it but as said its not a minter just a cheap fun little car
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Mike1
Tbh though the only car i have came up against that could match me in the bends was a old shape impreza which looked to have had some work done, You should have seen his face when i went round the outside of him on a roundabout
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Tbh though the only car i have came up against that could match me in the bends was a old shape impreza which looked to have had some work done, You should have seen his face when i went round the outside of him on a roundabout
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And as i've said it would demolish my escort cossie in nearly every situation except straight line pace to 120mph even top speed its quicker. Its 1 of those cars that just keeps you smiling
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Mike1
I've demolished a mate in his tme evo 6 kept with sti scoobies etc but like you say its probably just down to me driving like a tit
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I've demolished a mate in his tme evo 6 kept with sti scoobies etc but like you say its probably just down to me driving like a tit
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David Leslie, the BTCC driver, put the lap times in.
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You should get one of these...
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Toyota Corolla Levin AE111 BZ-R or BZ-G, not many in the UK forsale but loads in Ireland. Can get a nice one for 6k.
They are very similar cars to the Integra Type-R's. If you get a superstrut model, it has Toyota's version on double wishbone and they handle great. (i've got an older model and it's fantastic)
They are 165bhp out of a 1.6, have throttle bodies as standard and some come with 6 speed gearboxes and some also come with LSD's.
Cracking car for the money.
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Toyota Corolla Levin AE111 BZ-R or BZ-G, not many in the UK forsale but loads in Ireland. Can get a nice one for 6k.
They are very similar cars to the Integra Type-R's. If you get a superstrut model, it has Toyota's version on double wishbone and they handle great. (i've got an older model and it's fantastic)
They are 165bhp out of a 1.6, have throttle bodies as standard and some come with 6 speed gearboxes and some also come with LSD's.
Cracking car for the money.
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Originally Posted by Escy
Toyota Corolla Levin AE111 BZ-R or BZ-G, not many in the UK forsale but loads in Ireland. Can get a nice one for 6k.
They are very similar cars to the Integra Type-R's. If you get a superstrut model, it has Toyota's version on double wishbone and they handle great. (i've got an older model and it's fantastic)
They are 165bhp out of a 1.6, have throttle bodies as standard and some come with 6 speed gearboxes and some also come with LSD's.
They are very similar cars to the Integra Type-R's. If you get a superstrut model, it has Toyota's version on double wishbone and they handle great. (i've got an older model and it's fantastic)
They are 165bhp out of a 1.6, have throttle bodies as standard and some come with 6 speed gearboxes and some also come with LSD's.
6-speed box
200bhp
LSD
lightened, stiffened shell
Similar character of engine to the ITR
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/115096.htm
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If the VTS/GTI is getting mentioned, the I think it's only right the Zetec-S get's a mention!
Although I think this is over shadowed by the Racing Puma.
Although I think this is over shadowed by the Racing Puma.
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Originally Posted by Mike1
Originally Posted by Escy
Toyota Corolla Levin AE111 BZ-R or BZ-G, not many in the UK forsale but loads in Ireland. Can get a nice one for 6k.
They are very similar cars to the Integra Type-R's. If you get a superstrut model, it has Toyota's version on double wishbone and they handle great. (i've got an older model and it's fantastic)
They are 165bhp out of a 1.6, have throttle bodies as standard and some come with 6 speed gearboxes and some also come with LSD's.
They are very similar cars to the Integra Type-R's. If you get a superstrut model, it has Toyota's version on double wishbone and they handle great. (i've got an older model and it's fantastic)
They are 165bhp out of a 1.6, have throttle bodies as standard and some come with 6 speed gearboxes and some also come with LSD's.
6-speed box
200bhp
LSD
lightened, stiffened shell
Similar character of engine to the ITR
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/115096.htm
Mike, I've had that engine and gearbox in the corrolla and it was terrible.
The box is quite honestly the worst I've ever used, which is shocking considering it was brand spanking new when I had it, the ratios are all wrong and it drops off vvti between changes, 6th is also useless, its too low geared so that 70 is 4k!!! in 6th!! thats rediculous, I did a week of not going above 65 and only managed 29mpg
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I wont ever own another Toyota, and thats coming from an employee!!!!!!
its between the Integra and 106 I think and the Integra is winning at the minute, if I could find a mint CRX for sensible money I might consider one of them also.
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Fair enough on the Toyota - was going on the review in the link where it said gave better feedback than an ITR DC5 and was one of the best handling fwd cars they had driven.
To be honest, don't think you'll go wrong with either the ITR or 106GTi/Saxo VTS - all great handling cars
To be honest, don't think you'll go wrong with either the ITR or 106GTi/Saxo VTS - all great handling cars
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