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Old 24-01-2007 | 10:23 AM
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hope you dont need to stop sharp. cant get very big brakes under 13's
All the Mk1+2 Escorts do well with 13s, brake diameter isnt everything.

Esp as 340s weigh under a ton.
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Been looking into this for a while, got a bit of money together and might have a dabble with one I think especially as it's snowing now! Hmmmm, I'm thinking a R5 GT Turbo engine would fit then?!

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Elo mate.

Ive looked into this and I was planning it this way before I got the 360 instead.

If you listen to the UK Volvo 300 fanatics/geeks they make out its next to impossible, not to mentoin the fact GTT engines are shit/unreliable/etc etc.

But me n you both know they shithot engines

Its never been done before it seems, but it looks dead easy.

As long as you buy a 1.4 as your base car, the GTT engine bolts straight in and onto the volvo box, as does crank sensor, the lot.
Unless my eyes are decieving me, electrically it will all swap straight over, even the coil/ign ecu thingy looks the same, tho obv different inside.

Massive engine bay that the 1.4 looks totally lost in, so can fit as big a turbo/intercooler/chargecooler/rad as you can imagine.

Turbo looks like it WONT fit in the natural place over the gearbox, with the heater box removed it may, but its close, and the interior heater pipes will deffo need moving.

IMO the cheapest and easiest thing to do is run a short (nees to be 6in long, max) extension pipe from the stock manifold round to the other side of the enginebay and mount the turbo anywhere there, could fit twin T88s there if you wanted there so much room (once you binned off the spare wheel!).

Need to change the fuel system as stock its a gay mechanical pump, but thats no biggie.

Prob should change the alloy prop for an uprated one, but they only like 150notes or so.

And well, thas about the basics of it, theres more, but all pretty easy stuff.

Any more info, jus ask mate.

Idve been halfway thru it by now if i didnt get the 360 instead, and its even easier to fit a 740/940 turbo engine to a 360 than it is a GTT or Clio lump to a 340!
Hi mate, Wow wicked info there, cheers! Looks like I might have to call in a few favours from my old R5 days! I reckon just a mild 160bhp would me more than enough fun... and like you say other than a few minor issue I reckon it'd be a couple of weekends work.

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340 brakes are really good actually, i actually slammed the nose of mine into the tarmac once (the suspension is wallowy to say the least)

i've had three now, a mint condish 1.4 3-door with FVSH

a ratty graffitid up 1.7 3-door

and a v-good 1.7 gl 3-door

i still love them, and i will get another shortly to compete in the Lombard Rally
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Saw the volvos up there look like good fun, However suspect the night wont run again next month as the marshalls were asking people to behave and just got aload of abuse back....

Spoke to one of them and he thinks it will be shut down again as people cant behave.
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Neil - you know that mate!! That's it, I'm on the hunt for one (reckon I can get a better one than that beige on for the money )

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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Neil - you know that mate!! That's it, I'm on the hunt for one (reckon I can get a better one than that beige on for the money )

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Checkit, never seen a more ideal one if you going GTT power...
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www...00702103429324

I want it myself, but cant justify SIX cars (Tho it payday friday, so get it before i change my mind )

Then speak to Nev at DriftMoto for all the parts you need, anything right up to a 5link rear end if you wanted to go silly.

The car that started the legend, Nevs old one
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Stavros What can you get suspension wise to drop them on the deck?
Old 24-01-2007 | 12:16 PM
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Anything you want, from coilovers to simple stuff.

99% of people just go for lowering blocks for the rear and super low springs on the front. All from Nev. Thatd cost about 150quid for the lot.
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Do mini fitment wheels fit them? I'll be gutted if you say yes as my mates just sold a set of mint 13" Gold alleycats
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Stav it's gone mate, I called it this morning!!!

I'm deffo keeping my beady eyes peeled though!



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Do mini fitment wheels fit them? I'll be gutted if you say yes as my mates just sold a set of mint 13" Gold alleycats
Yes, 4x100, so Mini (well near enough, they 4x4inch, so fit), VW, etc etc fitment.

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Stav it's gone mate, I called it this morning!!!

I'm deffo keeping my beady eyes peeled though!



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Wounder! Thats the thing tho, they gettin snapped up now the the new bandwagon car, need to get one while you still can, theyl all be 500quid+ again soon, prob 1000quid+ if Sid and/or Nev get their EDC licences this year.
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Neil - you know that mate!! That's it, I'm on the hunt for one (reckon I can get a better one than that beige on for the money )

Ben
You will regret it...

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Ł225 mate..... how much cheaper do you want it

3 Door.. 80,000 miles and a full MOT
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Ł225 mate..... how much cheaper do you want it
I paid 100quid for my lovely beige/bronze 1989 2litre 360
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Stav it's gone mate, I called it this morning!!!

I'm deffo keeping my beady eyes peeled though!



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My mate has one that is lowered with the diff welded that he said he's going to sell if that's any use?
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wasnt there a 740 Turbo series that a certain number of them had LSD's installed from Volvo??

as much as i think it wud b weird, id take volvo for some trampdrifting likes? crails only bout 40 minutes away from me so can get the van n trailer organised n have some sideways fun easy!!
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Fuck LSDs, they for homos, no cars stock LSD is that good as new, never mind old cars.

Buy one with an open diff n weld it up.

And yeah, 740 and 940 turbos are fine, ive seen em at Crail before, never mind other places.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Fuck LSDs, they for homos, no cars stock LSD is that good as new, never mind old cars.

Buy one with an open diff n weld it up.

And yeah, 740 and 940 turbos are fine, ive seen em at Crail before, never mind other places.
welded diffs defo better just wondered if i was right about the 740's tho

remember going out in Jeeks car at crail with him and his mega welded diff!

think there was more smoke inside the car than outside it but top class guy, pity his car was self-inflammable that day! engine didnt like abuse and set the cabin protection stuff on fire, thank fuck for irn-bru to save the day!
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Originally Posted by neilm
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Neil - you know that mate!! That's it, I'm on the hunt for one (reckon I can get a better one than that beige on for the money )

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You will regret it...

Nothing more 'Stealth' or 'Q Car' than Hearing Aid Beige...


Ł225 mate..... how much cheaper do you want it

3 Door.. 80,000 miles and a full MOT
Don't want one cheaper than Ł225, I would actually pay Ł300 and a bit more for one... BUT... just been doing a bit of digging and I reckon for this kinda money I can get one better than the beige one (the ad says there's rusty bits etc!). Some of the guys on the Volvo owners club board have got MINT 40,000 milers for Ł200 and less! I'm bound to spot a mint old grannys car up for sale locally for peanuts, might as well wait!

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Stav - Nevs phone number looks like it's local - Brands Hatch way? Surely not?!

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Stav - Nevs phone number looks like it's local - Brands Hatch way? Surely not?!

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Yeah, Brands Hatch mate.

You know F1 Moto down there? Does motorbikes? Its the same unit, Drift Moto. Nev owns/runs em both.
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So which one is the best to look out for? A 1.4 gl or something? IF I can find one I might steal my mates 170bhp R5 engine when he's asleep
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If you want to try and fit a GTT engine, get a 1.4, whatever model.

If you want to try and fit a Clio engine, or want a car thats perfectly good at drifting anyhow, but a 1.7, whatever model.

If you want to try and fit a 740/940turbo engine or want a car that actually goes well, buy a 360, whatever model (tho 3drs are rare so better, 4doors are cool, 5drs are common, and there carb and injection, but either will do, with carb a bit better).

Later ones have PAS too.
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Hmm, well i'm not really too bothered about how fast it is to be honest. The one and only reason I want one is to learn to drift in. The car is cheap and insurance is about 100 quid so I won't be too bothered when I hit something trying to drift.

Are the 1.4 ok to learn to drift in with a standard engine if I do the suspension and drop it on it's arse?

To be honest i'd rather learn in something quite hard to get the basic skills as hopefully when I can afford something better they should transfer across?
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Why the fuck you want to drop in a GTT lump if you dont care about power

If you want to learn to drift, your right, you dont need power but 1.4 is too weedy once you doing anything even a little quick, get a 1.7 or ideally a 360, dont touch the engine, weld the diff, fit a drivers bucket seat, slice the handbrake rubber and pull the spring out, and go drive.

My 360 has about 90bhp tops and its more than enough for 2nd gear in the dry, prob 3rd TBH.
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I wouldnt worry about an R5 engine or whatever until i've learnt the basics. I imagine it will take me ages just to get used to any of it. The car might not last long enough to put a R5 engine in when I find out how shit I am at it
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IMO get a 1.7 or ideally a 360, learn in that, and get a 1.4 ready to do the swap when you feel you need it.

Learning with a 1.4 will piss you off as tho you dont need power, they just TOO underpowered to do anything fast.

Unless you at competition level a stock engined 1.7 or 360 is good enough anyhow IMO.

Dont get me wrong, a GTT engined one id love too, but its not a 5min project, and you say you not fussed on the power.
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Best start driving round all the areas where old bids live and try and hassle them into selling their volvos.
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I NEVER thought in a million years I would find a volvo attractive... but that, on those minilights... its the nuts !!!
Did you go to the Autosport show at the NEC the other week?
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I NEVER thought in a million years I would find a volvo attractive... but that, on those minilights... its the nuts !!!
Did you go to the Autosport show at the NEC the other week?

No mate.. stayed at home.... why ?
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I NEVER thought in a million years I would find a volvo attractive... but that, on those minilights... its the nuts !!!
Did you go to the Autosport show at the NEC the other week?

No mate.. stayed at home.... why ?
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I was up at the Autosport show from Wed - Monday working, I do a lot of freelance work for them & Max Power live etc.
The car was there all weekend......did you see it?
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I saw a dark coloured one on minilites just like that
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yep, was nevs white volvo above that started it all off, until the rear diff locked up at 80 and sent him across the road and into a tree backwards

thankfully he was ok

nev built my mk 1 (in the sig below) and his work is second to none!!!

pf ben, his jus past the main entrance to brands, opposite the petrol station!!!!

the battleship grey one is awesome, his really gone to town with it!!!!

i used to go out drifting with them all at dagenham, you can have soo much fun in them its unreal!!!!!

nevs a good mate of mine, if you want a phone number or anything then jus give em a pm
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so i take it Ace was no good then? was gunna go, but went OOOP north instead.
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whats the offset on the 340/360?
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-360-gls-...QQcmdZViewItem

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so i take it Ace was no good then? was gunna go, but went OOOP north instead.

If you like 'Croozes' and 'Chav-Fests' you would have been in heaven.

If reckless goon type driving floats your boat... you would have loved it.

If you have to be in bed by 10:00 like 70% of the people who were there, which is why they all left at 9:30

If none of the above appeals to you then it would have been a shit night.


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PMSL!! was it busy though?
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PMSL!! was it busy though?
Fookin Rammed until about 9:30 then everyone in the car park fooked off.

We left about 10:30 and the pavements were lined like there was a Royal funeral about to pass... and there was a hardcore of stunt drivers in action


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