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Old 19-01-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default a lot of old pf names on the mlr nowadays

after getting the evo 6,i have spent a bit more time now on the mlr and there are a lot of converts over there nowadays.
i must admitt i cant see me ever buying another cossie for myself after owning the evo-although i still love the rs marque/scene,and will still be around it for years to come.
i like using the cars i own so could never justify putting a mint 3 door away under a cover or something like that-but using it would affect its value.and would to be honest sooner have an evo than an escos.

its not as friendly over there though as it is on here.

how the fuck am i going to get my evo onto the stands at the rs shows????

my evo


but the cars in my garage are still ford(mainly)
Old 19-01-2007, 12:25 PM
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i nearly made that mistake,they aren't as much fun as cossies though
Old 19-01-2007, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
i nearly made that mistake,they aren't as much fun as cossies though
oh i dont know.....

my rs500 was blisteringly quick in a straight line,but it was always a lottery wether it would stay together!the evo is more fun in an all round package type way.nowhere near as quick as the rs500 but a lot of fun in the bends.
Old 19-01-2007, 12:36 PM
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but do you get the urge to tinker with an Evo like you do with a Cossie? or do you just put it away til you drive it next?

agreed the Evo's are great in the bends,but it's all to easy....i like a fight when i'm driving
Old 19-01-2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
my rs500 was blisteringly quick in a straight line
you had an RS500

This joke will never get old
Old 19-01-2007, 12:48 PM
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Nice Evo there Jay,

When are you going to start tinkering with it ??


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Old 19-01-2007, 12:48 PM
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imho all three of the fords look better than the evo tho
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
imho all three of the fords look better than the evo tho
trust me i have worn ford blinkers for many years so know where you are coming from.once i removed them and saw what else was out there you cant help but appreciate them.

there isnt much tinkering to do on the evo compared to the amount of time i spent"tinkering"under the bonnet of cossies-maybe its just a pleasant change for me at the mo.
Old 19-01-2007, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
imho all three of the fords look better than the evo tho
trust me i have worn ford blinkers for many years so know where you are coming from.once i removed them and saw what else was out there you cant help but appreciate them.

there isnt much tinkering to do on the evo compared to the amount of time i spent"tinkering"under the bonnet of cossies-maybe its just a pleasant change for me at the mo.
Thats exactly it Jay, you don't have to tinker much because the Evo is a ready made package which is years ahead of the Fords. 400bhp is easily got without having to fit uprated clutches or uprated gearboxes etc.

I shan't buy another cossie after mine goes this weekend.
Old 19-01-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
imho all three of the fords look better than the evo tho
trust me i have worn ford blinkers for many years so know where you are coming from.once i removed them and saw what else was out there you cant help but appreciate them.

there isnt much tinkering to do on the evo compared to the amount of time i spent"tinkering"under the bonnet of cossies-maybe its just a pleasant change for me at the mo.
Thats exactly it Jay, you don't have to tinker much because the Evo is a ready made package which is years ahead of the Fords.
What do you expect from cars that were MADE years after the Forsd!

I'm not defending Cossie's either before anyone jumps on the bandwagon, I like some Evo's to!

Yours looks nice Jay!
Old 19-01-2007, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
imho all three of the fords look better than the evo tho
trust me i have worn ford blinkers for many years so know where you are coming from.once i removed them and saw what else was out there you cant help but appreciate them.

there isnt much tinkering to do on the evo compared to the amount of time i spent"tinkering"under the bonnet of cossies-maybe its just a pleasant change for me at the mo.
Thats exactly it Jay, you don't have to tinker much because the Evo is a ready made package which is years ahead of the Fords.
What do you expect from cars that were MADE years after the Forsd!

I'm not defending Cossie's either before anyone jumps on the bandwagon, I like some Evo's to!

Yours looks nice Jay!
No need to roll your eyes!!!!
Old 19-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Sorry Lynne, lol bit i've got a point, can I poke my tounge out
Old 19-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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that evo looks stunning im swaying towards and evo next
Old 19-01-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by StickerPaul
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
my rs500 was blisteringly quick in a straight line
you had an RS500

This joke will never get old
wait till next months fast ford comes out-the secret will be out then
Old 19-01-2007, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by essex_jamie
that evo looks stunning im swaying towards and evo next
i was trying to think of anything else i would have instead for similar money-cant really think of anything-there are some german offerings but dont think they would be as exciting(e46 m3,rs4).

i dont think i would be happier in a r33 gtr skyline(although i still havent driven one yet!)

so looks like the evo may be here to stay for a while
Old 19-01-2007, 02:29 PM
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looks like a nice one fordsportjay

is it standard? if so, sort it out with the obligatory exhaust, fuel pump and ecutek remap
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Originally Posted by Dan
Sorry Lynne, lol bit i've got a point, can I poke my tounge out
This is what owning a Ford does......

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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Dan
Sorry Lynne, lol bit i've got a point, can I poke my tounge out
This is what owning a Ford does......



never a truer word said


my car has got the ecutek done,has a magnex exhaust with decat and downpipe,blitz filter.not sure on fuel pump.its running 20 psi and goes very well.would that be about 340 bhp?
Old 19-01-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
my car has got the ecutek done,has a magnex exhaust with decat and downpipe,blitz filter.not sure on fuel pump.its running 20 psi and goes very well.would that be about 340 bhp?
if youre running that amount of boost you must already have an uprated fuel pump, because just over standard boost (14-16psi) you get fuel cuts as the standard pump cant deliver the goods

my Evo5 made 365bhp/345lbft at 19.5psi

and from what ive read on the MLR you should be making 340bhp at the bottom end of the figures, more likely to be 350-370 bhp with around 320-350lbft not bad for a 5psi boost rise
Old 19-01-2007, 02:47 PM
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im a jap owner at the moment and nothing else jap really tickes my fancy so i think im goin to save up an get an escort cossie when i turn 21 next year!

then if i get bored of that, i might go for an evo or somethin
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Looks nice bud.

Drove couple EVO' 4 and a 6 and must admit i did like them very nice cars, probably be one of the old cars i would get instead of a Cossie tbh.

Drove a lad i knows R33 GTR and tbh wasn't that impressed tbh.
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sapphs looking nice nash
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best check my afr on it!

it seems really happy at that boost though.toying with fitting an apexi avc-r boost controller on it
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
best check my afr on it!

it seems really happy at that boost though.toying with fitting an apexi avc-r boost controller on it
you would know if you had fuel cuts, so must be fine.

i would say theres no need for a boost controller unless youre planing on constantly changing the boost setting low-high etc... but im open to persuasion if anyone knows better
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
best check my afr on it!

it seems really happy at that boost though.toying with fitting an apexi avc-r boost controller on it
A lot of tuners recommend you have a boost controller if it's EcuTEK'd.

I was going down the EcuTEK route but now decided to have Autronic.
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
best check my afr on it!

it seems really happy at that boost though.toying with fitting an apexi avc-r boost controller on it
A lot of tuners recommend you have a boost controller if it's EcuTEK'd.

I was going down the EcuTEK route but now decided to have Autronic.
yeah ive heard that, but my tuner reckon'd it wasnt needed. and to be fair i dont see why it is, only a slight boost raise, same turbo/engine spec etc, and im never going to alter the boost setting once its been set up.

be nice to have the spare cash to go for a trick aftermarket set up
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autronics - mmmmm nice

mine already had the ecutec fitted so i may as well stick with it for now.was wondering wether i needed a boost controller-some say yes,some say no.
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a geeza at work is havin a re-build on his evo 6, it hasnt blown up, just he wants 500bhp
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Originally Posted by Red16
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
best check my afr on it!

it seems really happy at that boost though.toying with fitting an apexi avc-r boost controller on it
A lot of tuners recommend you have a boost controller if it's EcuTEK'd.

I was going down the EcuTEK route but now decided to have Autronic.
yeah ive heard that, but my tuner reckon'd it wasnt needed. and to be fair i dont see why it is, only a slight boost raise, same turbo/engine spec etc, and im never going to alter the boost setting once its been set up.

be nice to have the spare cash to go for a trick aftermarket set up
Just sold my Escos - so I gotta treat the Evo to something
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I presume the car uses the standard boost solenoid then? You can get a better boost solenoid from the states for about Ł20. It'd need remapping though as it's a 3 port style and the duty cycles would be different.

If it holds it's target boost well though you may well be wasting money buying an aftermarket controller.
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your evo looks great jay ,but as for keeping it we shall see
Old 19-01-2007, 04:43 PM
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A mate's got the ECUTEK - taking his '260' up to 322 and a nice increase in torque (can't remember the figure). Personally, I think I'd go the Autronic route like Lynne, but obviously it's a bit more expensive and depends what you want from the car. His is fine without a boost controller at that level of tune.

If you can find somewhere safe to play with the EVO and get used to it's AYC, they're absolutely amazing in what they can do - a lot of my mate's long term EVO owning friends were truly gobsmacked at what they can do after seeing him drive his - they obviously hadn't explored the full scope of what they can do (but thought they had!). He bought his after being taken out for a demo with the dealer (who's a rally driver), who really took the term 'demo drive' to a whole new level.

Norfolk Group are usually happy to have an Evo or non-ford on their stands if you ask Mike nicely
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al these people on here saying that cossies are shit and unreliable etc..


if they are that bad why are you all still here?
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well im cheshire chairman so im sure i can swing it
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Doh, didn't notice that

LOL @ Euan, I'll be sticking with my EsCos for a good while. As much as the EVO is a superb performance car, I wouldn't sell my EsCos to get one. But then I refuse to test drive one, just in case....
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
al these people on here saying that cossies are shit and unreliable etc..


if they are that bad why are you all still here?
who is saying they are shit and unreliable?
i had a 510 bhp rs500 last year which was great fun as im sure you know.but they are now old cars which cannot realistically be used every day like the evo.its common knowledge you half expect something to break every time you go out in a cossie-be it a small electrical gremlin or an engine letting go.or there is the paranoia of crashing it!
im not slating cossies-i deal in them ffs,and have had more of them than most.but as a good reliable useable package-the evo is a great car.would i sooner have an Ł12k escos or a Ł12k evo-evo evry time im afraid.

the rs cars are great and the ford scene is excellent,and its something ill be a part of for many years to come.but the fact is the evo is an excellent car.
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Doh, didn't notice that

LOL @ Euan, I'll be sticking with my EsCos for a good while. As much as the EVO is a superb performance car, I wouldn't sell my EsCos to get one. But then I refuse to test drive one, just in case....

i never thought i would end up in an evo after having the rs500,but here i am.i took my mate out in my 500 before i sold it and he returned the favour in his evo 6 makinnen.same route.
cossie was much quicker,but when it came to keeping the speed up in the bends-the evo was unbelievable.
i was planning on building a 400 bhp 2wd sapph,but cant see it happening now as the evo is so much fun in virtually out of the box spec
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i love evos and would have one in a flash but all my cash has been sunk into my cossie and i am very happy with it.
cant really compare a cossie and a Evo tho , can you?



one is ten years newer.

would never swap an escort for any evo.
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Evo is looking good Jay
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I whould get an evo, probley a fq 340 but i whouldnt sell my escort to get it, might sell the focus for it but i dont like the way the evo`s lose money and that they bring a new model out every 6 months, as i dont get alot of time to drive a car allways in the van i dont want a car that is costing loads to sit on the drive, but can still put a smile on your face when you drive it


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