timrud

re: handling, never noticed a mega difference going to 17's, but there maybe some chassis differences from the Corsa to Nova which may aid me? I dunno!

JonnyBravo

Engine is dead standard mate, no matter what you hear, rebuilt yes but that didn't last long

He is just using the schrader (sp) valve on the fuel rail for his take off. It doesn't affect anything really although his YB pump is probably working to the max.

Future plans are probably steel rods, new turbo, manifold, management.

the hard work now begins for him tbh, lots of money just to gain those few 10ths. Not sure if I could be arsed myself but someone has to do it lol

Fiecos Dan

What power, wieght and tyres is he using?

JonnyBravo

I ran 16's on my white one and found it ok, 15's were fitted for 1/4 mile until I fitted the 305 brakes.

I just found the lower profile tire you went for the worse the ride became thus not making me feel as comfortable driving flat out.

JonnyBravo

Power - around 400hp

Weight - 800-850kg at a guess

888 tires

Fiecos Dan

What terminal speed? 60 ft?

or have you got a 1/4 slip to hand?

JonnyBravo

If there is one about it will be on Mig and its down at the mo.

I'll try and find one later for you

I know he hasn't done better than a 2sec flat 60ft yet.

Oh and watch the vid lol 121mph pass I think, he has done a 124mph pass before though

timrud

TBH I would not bother lobbing loads of money for a few 10th's.

Its like a mad competition round here. We all had our cars running in 2005. Chris S (comes on here) managed a 12.3. The Nova Van got a 12.5, I was low 13's.

Since then:

Chris is building a nice GT30 low comp LET.

Adz with the van, well hes just not wired up right. Built a Mk3 Astra with I think a T3 on it (could be a T34), reckon the van will be insane when done. He doesn't like loosing LOL

Danny has joined the mad club, done a Tigra with a T70 on it (yes thats right ), infact I have a pic of it next to a GT28 . |God knows how it will drive.



The Usher (and his dad) have an idea that is well out of the box. His dad showed me a load of technical data, and if he builds what he is thinking, everybody else need not bother

Me, well I've done nothing. But it'd be ace if I did the same spec as your mate, did a low 12, then took the NOS off and basked in my glory

JonnyBravo

Sounds like some interesting builds coming along !

Really though ALL these people should pay Danny B a visit as he would make the car faster on the 1/4 for a damn site less than some of the expensive tuning parts, just very few seem to appreciate that as they think that more power is the only way to quicker times

Would of had mine done but I had to accept it was a nova, I would always be wanting to upgrade this and that and at the end of the day I'd never be happy.

JonnyBravo

Anyway we have now totally hijacked this thread

So back to 0-60mph

Maybe we should do it like a PF shootout ?

Fastest FWD 0-60

1-
2-
3-

Fastest RWD 0-60

1-
2-
3-

Fastest 4WD 0-60

1-
2-
3-

PF users only though

timrud

Well I'm non Ford....

But if its PF users, I'm OK

Agreed about Danny, that man is the bees knees, just need to look at his own cars, let alone ones with his bits on!

JonnyBravo

Your 4.79 has to be in the top 3 fwd Tim ?

sbd16v

i bet if i drop the clutch in 3rd 2nd gear on the gte it will hit the limeter in a couple of seconds does that count for a 0-60 ???? wheels would be doing that lmao

timrud

Rob, wait for it to be Icy, and do it in sixth

I would be surprised if I was in the top three, but who knows!

Drunken Master

I get that a fast 0 - 60 means it's a fast car. But I think your better at looking what gets from 0 - 100 fastest that shows a real quick car.

I'm not personally into the whole fast in a straight line either. It's just boring. Which is what makes Norris's Evo and Fensports Celica etc amaze me!

JonnyBravo

Know where your coming from mate but this is just about whats quick 0-60

sbd16v

i have had spin in 5th in the dry

timrud

DangerousBryan

well mine did a 1/4 in 14.2 at 105 so guessing 14 dead to 100?
that was without the gas......
have got some yoko ao48's for free to try this year and have also gone up from phase 3 to 3.5.my problem is no traction till third gear i dont know how you do it tim.
think i will have to ask brom nicely for some bottom arms.
bryan

timrud

Or see Danny B!

Those tyres are mint, I wanted a set!

I managed a 5.38 without the LSD, then the 4.79 with. Think its luck mate!

I want to invest in some trick bits for mine after I've done the engine.

You notice a difference between phase 3 and 3.5?

xr2.0zetecturbo.

i'll av a go at the lil vauxhaull boys if you dont run with gas, ive got at least 115 at wheels,reckon i could beet this adz kid on the 1/4, wheres he from?

rs4steve

hi all

from memory

kaliber 4.3secs (510bhp)

escort 3.9secs (400bhp when a1 owned it)

sbd16v

my 12.6 was without a diff and that was at 121mph so really looking fwd to getting a timed 0-60 when the car is back in one piece


fiesta boy i will happly race you without gas

timrud

Were all from South Yorks all over mate. You are aware we all have at least 300bhp off gas, Adz probably more like 400?

I know hes run a 12 without the gas.

I've a video of him doing a 12.7 at Pod yonks ago. Though the car has no engine at the moment.

timrud

Rob... my thoughts exactally with the Fiesta lad

Whens yours back? Always had a keen eye on it

stevieturbo

From AX-22 GPS logs, circa 3.18secs.

Thats in 3rd gear though. If I was to hang onto 2nd it should be high 2's

Im losing about 0.2-0.3secs of acceleration time during the shift according to the log. It flatlines before accelerating towards 60 again.

That was on drag radials at Santa Pod.

TiB

iTrader: (1)

What 60ft's have you managed then mate??

stevieturbo

Best was 1.73 late on the Saturday night at the night drags in October....when I also missed 4th gear

I know where that run was going

Next best was 1.758, which was on my best time of 10.04, that was first thing Sunday morning, same event.

I managed 1 or 2 more 1.7x's I think, all on the MT DR's

I did a few 1.8x with the previous Nitto 555R's

Obviously Ive done a mix of slower 60fts too, but those would be the best.

When I get a stronger trans and prop, I'll try launching harder

I didnt want to take any silly risks and end up stranded, as my current prop isnt quite how I'd like it, nor is the output shaft of the box, which is a known weak link.
I dont mind stripping gears, 4th will always get me home if I had to. Break the other 2, and its a nightmare to try and get home.

big_wig_074

what transmission do you run steve?

stevieturbo

standard T56 for now, although I have an uprated one on the way.

TiB

iTrader: (1)

Cool stuff matey...

Can you answer this for me???


How much difference in ET times do you get from a 1.73 60ft to a 1.83 (or whichever time close to that you've got) but roughly 1 tenth on the 60ft????



Lee

stevieturbo

Ive heard dedicated racers say, that every 0.1s off your 60ft, can be worth 0.2secs of your ET.

I dont personally think its as much as that, but its probably not far off.

Not sure if that can take into account, if you are still spinning or lose traction after the 60ft again, and end up spinning at 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 ft etc

I have done times that would nearly back that theory, but then Ive done times that would show it isnt the case...

The 60ft is of ultra importance. But then, the ret of the run also matters too...
It may be valid for an almost perfect run everywhere else, which in a manual car, is much harder to acheive.
For an auto, I'd think its almost idiot proof.

TiB

iTrader: (1)

Cheers bud... it would appear its in the hands of the gods for my 10 sec run.... my combination of good 60ft's and my get every gear runs would mean it'll be damned close if i do them all together ha ha.


Good luck with the 9 though mate... i know thats not far off

stevieturbo

As an example, looking thru slips from Retro in July on Nittos and SP in Oct on the MT DR's

All runs at Santa Pod, diff dates for both tyres though, all 2006.

2nd July Retro Show Santa Pod

Nitto, 1.858s 60ft, 4.845 330ft, 7.085 1/8th ( 10.54 run )
Nitto, 1.827s 60ft, 4.877 330ft, 7.236 1/8th ( 10.76 run ) lost traction after 60ft
Nitto, 1.940s 60ft, 4.893 330ft, 7.145 1/8th (10.615 run )

Oct 14/15 Santa Pod.

MTDR 1.867s 60ft, 4.686 330ft, 6.884 1/8th ( 10.293 run )
MTDR 1.763s 60ft, 4.523 330ft, 6.701 1/8th ( 10.070 run )
MTDR 1.802s 60ft, 4.620 330ft, 6.827 1/8th ( 10.225 run )
MTDR 1.758s 60ft, 4.511 330ft, 6.689 1/8th ( 10.04 run )
MTDR 1.730s 60ft, 4.453 330ft, 6.637 1/8th ( 10.256 missed 4th gear run )
MTDR 2.150s 60ft, 5.092 330ft, 7.360 1/8th ( 10.84 run )

Car isnt quite same spec for both venues, but not a huge amount of difference.

Times are better, on the most part due to the better gearing of the taller MTDR's and better traction.

timrud

Interesting, I've always wondered that about 60ft's too!

JonnyBravo

Dan- spoke to my mate with the 11 sec nova tonight, he will dig out a time slip but he said he is just over 100mph on the 1/8 in 8 secs

Mental really as my mates Vette crosses the 1/8th @100mph... although in 6 secs lol

stevieturbo

a 6.0 sec 1/8th should be closer to 120mph.

JonnyBravo

He wishes it was mate.

His ET's are never anymore than 130 max

Think he is running mid 6's on the 1/8th 10.3 on the 1/4

And its more of a brick than yours

weight wise anyway !

JonnyBravo

http://www.turbo-nutters.co.uk/videopages/podcam4-6.htm

JonnyBravo

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