School boy

Why does every one swear by the 4 pots but doe : sn't take a blind bit of notice to the 6 pots? Surley they are stronger and more powerfull?
Is it due to the life of them or reliability, price or something else?

Cheers

rapidcossie

who swears by the 4 pots?

the majority of folks on here run 6 pots if they have AP's

bigad4x4

Would have thought the more pots the better but its all down to your

budget at the end of the day they arnt cheap

Big Will_

AP 6 pots are phenomenal and we use them on 800+bhp cars all day long

dave cos4x4

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AP 6 pots in mine and they are awesome,no problems with the brakes at all.

Andy_R

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I've recently reverted back to 4pot Brembos after having 6pot AP's on for the past while.......stopping distance is noticeably worse.

School boy

Appologises, I obviously got the wrong idea . It was in a Cosworth magazine special that they didnt mention 6-pots and instead praised the 4-pots.

Sorry guys.

rapidcossie

no probs at all mate but just wondered where you got that from?

is the mag an old one by any chance?

marco polo

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Hi

I have the AP 6pot calipers ( cp-5555 ) which take a min 355 disc these are brill too good infact i might go back to ap 4pot cp5200 x330mm on the front

reasons the 6 pots stop the car too quick and sometime cause it to skid lock up

i am not use to the 6 pots to be honest it's like i cant find an in between stoping and skiding without locking up the front i dont have too press the pedal just rest my foot on them and they stop (hard to explain)

anyway they do the other AP 6pots cp5570 which take min of 330mm to max 355mm discs

these ones are NO Better than the AP 4 pot calipers cp5200 with 330mm discs

I have the AP 4pots (Cp 5200) with 330mm x28mm discs on the rs2000 and these are the bizz i rate them highly


marco

School boy

It is more of a book than a mag, but its not hardback, it was done by Performance Ford for WHSmith, will find the date and post it.

Paul J

More pots arent always better. Seems most people seem to think this along with massive rotors.

Weight of the braking components is a big consideration. Dont go bigger than you need to.

Caliper design also takes into account things such as torsional flex, caliper deflection, piston area, leading edge characteristics..........

Big Will_

If thats on the evo in your sig - i'm not surprised fella...

Get the brembos warm enough and you can hear them flexing

dave cos4x4

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i'll swap you my brakes then Marco.

marco polo

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Hi Dave


im going to see what they are like on track first i haven't been on track with the 3dr for ages and i want to see what they are like i have the 4pot 330mm on the rear so it might make a bit of differance dont know yet

if i do you will be the first man ill contact


marco

Doug

No point in running mega big brakes i.e AP 6 pots 356X32mm if you dont have the tyres to support road use stick to 4 pots 330X28mm on track use 6 pots 356X32mm if ur running slicks else as already pointed out the tyres will give in and u'll just lock the wheels up pointless IMO




Regards Doug .

Porkie

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For road use, AP 4 pot 330's will be all you need.

Fagin

As Porkie has said, for the road AP 4 Pots are fine.... they are also fine for track, dependant on how you drive that is.

I have AP 6 pots with 355mm rotors on mine and I have to say on track they are nothing short of outstanding. I did 60+ timed laps at Tuner GP @ Snetterton and never had any brake fade during the whole day.

Marco,
Sounds like your braking system is over servo'd mate...... the feel on my AP's are perfect?!?

marco polo

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shaun

may be but i have the ap 4 pot 330mm x 32mm on the rear now well (been on for ages) i have the ap 6 pot on the front with 356mmx 36mm discs

I haven't had the chance to drive the car flat out to see what they are like

might even out the braking system i have the bias adjuster i dont use the abs but i still use the abs pump (servo)

Idealy i should go for proper pedal box but cant be botherd as it still a road car



dont forget shaun you have the 4wd system to slow your car down aswell i haven't

dont get me wrong once i need to get use to them really before i make comment

cheers marco

Mike Rainbird

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Some brakes .

Front:[/b] AP Racing 378mm (15") CP3700-1010/11G8 grooved and ventilated discs (fully floating) with gold anodised aluminium bells. AP Racing CP6235 6-pot differential bores, liquid-cooled, WRC callipers, and stainless-steel braided hoses. Ferodo DS3000 (CP6235D46) pads.

Rear: AP Racing 315mm (12.4") CP3580-64/5G8 grooved and ventilated discs wth gold anodised aluminium bells. AP Racing "Ex-works" Grp A, Ford Motorsport CP3620 4-pot callipers with titanium pistons and stainless-steel braided hoses. Ferodo DS3000 (CP3215D50) pads.

System: Hydraulic, dual-circuit with vacuum servo assistance and Teves ABS. Reyland hydraulic handbrake actuation.

DaveEscos

Rainbow you NERD!

any fucking excuse!

marco polo

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Dave

i bet you miss your shed i can tell





whats your siggy all about are you gay ?



marco

R5FORD

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i have tarox 6 pots..there excellent...i always assumed the more pots the better...however thats not the case as iv learnt

DaveEscos

It's my gay lover Marco

ive joined as one of many hom lords on PF!

marco polo

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fair play atleast your honest

Fagin

Yep!

He is as bad as the rest of us!!!

wayne thomas

He's wrong anyway cos the Escort WRC cars had 8 pot Brembo on!!

DaveEscos

They are touring car calipers... I had the same

School boy

[quote="School boy"]It is more of a book than a mag, but its not hardback, it was done by Performance Ford for WHSmith, will find and the date and post it up here.

School boy

[quote="School boy"][quote="School boy"]It is more of a book than a mag, but its not hardback, it was done by Performance Ford for WHSmith, will find and the date and post it up here.

Ahh, what has happend, how can I delete one of these posts or can a mod do it please?

Anonymous

...i run ap 6pots with 330mm ap discs and tbh the abs is working overtime .....Dont feel as good as my 6pot and 355 ap setup on the escos though!

Mike Rainbird

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They are WRC/Touring car callipers as supplied by AP to other WORKS teams for THAT specific application . Just because they weren't used by the FORD works team, doesn't mean they weren't used by other WRC teams .

Anonymous

..WRC to mike is infact World Rainbird Championship...so its all WRC spec

wayne thomas

Sorry Mike, I thought you were a Ford man, I hadn't realised your car was a bitsa

DaveEscos

---- Rainbow

Franco

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Stop correcting people cuntflaps, and answer email you big fucking doris!

Ps Dave who is that bit of man stud in your Siggy! He looks devine!

DaveEscos

he's a beast isnt he


His name is Tarquin! xxxx

Franco

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Tarquin the man whore!

Nice ring to it!

Paul_RS

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I'll second that. I have the same conversion as Marco on my RS 2000. They are simply amazing!

Its all very well having massive brakes, but it gets to the point where they are getting too good for road tyres - you really need to be using slicks to make use of their full stopping power.

DaveEscos

Oh yeah, le mans... what do you reckon.. drop me a mail.. Off to the gym now but will be back in about an hour

KSA-Cossie

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[quote="School boy"]They were cosworth 1 - 5 they come up on e bay sometimes.