AP brakes, 6 pots or 4?
#1
AP brakes, 6 pots or 4?
Why does every one swear by the 4 pots but doe : sn't take a blind bit of notice to the 6 pots? Surley they are stronger and more powerfull?
Is it due to the life of them or reliability, price or something else?
Cheers
Is it due to the life of them or reliability, price or something else?
Cheers
#7
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
who swears by the 4 pots?
the majority of folks on here run 6 pots if they have AP's
the majority of folks on here run 6 pots if they have AP's
Sorry guys.
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#9
Hi
I have the AP 6pot calipers ( cp-5555 ) which take a min 355 disc these are brill too good infact i might go back to ap 4pot cp5200 x330mm on the front
reasons the 6 pots stop the car too quick and sometime cause it to skid lock up
i am not use to the 6 pots to be honest it's like i cant find an in between stoping and skiding without locking up the front i dont have too press the pedal just rest my foot on them and they stop (hard to explain)
anyway they do the other AP 6pots cp5570 which take min of 330mm to max 355mm discs
these ones are NO Better than the AP 4 pot calipers cp5200 with 330mm discs
I have the AP 4pots (Cp 5200) with 330mm x28mm discs on the rs2000 and these are the bizz i rate them highly
marco
I have the AP 6pot calipers ( cp-5555 ) which take a min 355 disc these are brill too good infact i might go back to ap 4pot cp5200 x330mm on the front
reasons the 6 pots stop the car too quick and sometime cause it to skid lock up
i am not use to the 6 pots to be honest it's like i cant find an in between stoping and skiding without locking up the front i dont have too press the pedal just rest my foot on them and they stop (hard to explain)
anyway they do the other AP 6pots cp5570 which take min of 330mm to max 355mm discs
these ones are NO Better than the AP 4 pot calipers cp5200 with 330mm discs
I have the AP 4pots (Cp 5200) with 330mm x28mm discs on the rs2000 and these are the bizz i rate them highly
marco
#10
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
no probs at all mate but just wondered where you got that from?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
#11
More pots arent always better. Seems most people seem to think this along with massive rotors.
Weight of the braking components is a big consideration. Dont go bigger than you need to.
Caliper design also takes into account things such as torsional flex, caliper deflection, piston area, leading edge characteristics..........
Weight of the braking components is a big consideration. Dont go bigger than you need to.
Caliper design also takes into account things such as torsional flex, caliper deflection, piston area, leading edge characteristics..........
#12
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Originally Posted by Andy_R
I've recently reverted back to 4pot Brembos after having 6pot AP's on for the past while.......stopping distance is noticeably worse.
Get the brembos warm enough and you can hear them flexing
#14
Hi Dave
im going to see what they are like on track first i haven't been on track with the 3dr for ages and i want to see what they are like i have the 4pot 330mm on the rear so it might make a bit of differance dont know yet
if i do you will be the first man ill contact
marco
im going to see what they are like on track first i haven't been on track with the 3dr for ages and i want to see what they are like i have the 4pot 330mm on the rear so it might make a bit of differance dont know yet
if i do you will be the first man ill contact
marco
#15
No point in running mega big brakes i.e AP 6 pots 356X32mm if you dont have the tyres to support road use stick to 4 pots 330X28mm on track use 6 pots 356X32mm if ur running slicks else as already pointed out the tyres will give in and u'll just lock the wheels up pointless IMO
Regards Doug .
Regards Doug .
#17
As Porkie has said, for the road AP 4 Pots are fine.... they are also fine for track, dependant on how you drive that is.
I have AP 6 pots with 355mm rotors on mine and I have to say on track they are nothing short of outstanding. I did 60+ timed laps at Tuner GP @ Snetterton and never had any brake fade during the whole day.
Marco,
Sounds like your braking system is over servo'd mate...... the feel on my AP's are perfect?!?
I have AP 6 pots with 355mm rotors on mine and I have to say on track they are nothing short of outstanding. I did 60+ timed laps at Tuner GP @ Snetterton and never had any brake fade during the whole day.
Marco,
Sounds like your braking system is over servo'd mate...... the feel on my AP's are perfect?!?
#18
shaun
may be but i have the ap 4 pot 330mm x 32mm on the rear now well (been on for ages) i have the ap 6 pot on the front with 356mmx 36mm discs
I haven't had the chance to drive the car flat out to see what they are like
might even out the braking system i have the bias adjuster i dont use the abs but i still use the abs pump (servo)
Idealy i should go for proper pedal box but cant be botherd as it still a road car
dont forget shaun you have the 4wd system to slow your car down aswell i haven't
dont get me wrong once i need to get use to them really before i make comment
cheers marco
may be but i have the ap 4 pot 330mm x 32mm on the rear now well (been on for ages) i have the ap 6 pot on the front with 356mmx 36mm discs
I haven't had the chance to drive the car flat out to see what they are like
might even out the braking system i have the bias adjuster i dont use the abs but i still use the abs pump (servo)
Idealy i should go for proper pedal box but cant be botherd as it still a road car
dont forget shaun you have the 4wd system to slow your car down aswell i haven't
dont get me wrong once i need to get use to them really before i make comment
cheers marco
#19
Some brakes .
Front:[/b] AP Racing 378mm (15") CP3700-1010/11G8 grooved and ventilated discs (fully floating) with gold anodised aluminium bells. AP Racing CP6235 6-pot differential bores, liquid-cooled, WRC callipers, and stainless-steel braided hoses. Ferodo DS3000 (CP6235D46) pads.
Rear: AP Racing 315mm (12.4") CP3580-64/5G8 grooved and ventilated discs wth gold anodised aluminium bells. AP Racing "Ex-works" Grp A, Ford Motorsport CP3620 4-pot callipers with titanium pistons and stainless-steel braided hoses. Ferodo DS3000 (CP3215D50) pads.
System: Hydraulic, dual-circuit with vacuum servo assistance and Teves ABS. Reyland hydraulic handbrake actuation.
Front:[/b] AP Racing 378mm (15") CP3700-1010/11G8 grooved and ventilated discs (fully floating) with gold anodised aluminium bells. AP Racing CP6235 6-pot differential bores, liquid-cooled, WRC callipers, and stainless-steel braided hoses. Ferodo DS3000 (CP6235D46) pads.
Rear: AP Racing 315mm (12.4") CP3580-64/5G8 grooved and ventilated discs wth gold anodised aluminium bells. AP Racing "Ex-works" Grp A, Ford Motorsport CP3620 4-pot callipers with titanium pistons and stainless-steel braided hoses. Ferodo DS3000 (CP3215D50) pads.
System: Hydraulic, dual-circuit with vacuum servo assistance and Teves ABS. Reyland hydraulic handbrake actuation.
#23
Originally Posted by marco polo
Dave
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marco
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marco
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#28
[quote="School boy"]
It is more of a book than a mag, but its not hardback, it was done by Performance Ford for WHSmith, will find and the date and post it up here.
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
no probs at all mate but just wondered where you got that from?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
#29
[quote="School boy"][quote="School boy"]
It is more of a book than a mag, but its not hardback, it was done by Performance Ford for WHSmith, will find and the date and post it up here.
Ahh, what has happend, how can I delete one of these posts or can a mod do it please?
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
no probs at all mate but just wondered where you got that from?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
Ahh, what has happend, how can I delete one of these posts or can a mod do it please?
#31
Originally Posted by wayne thomas
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Rainbow you NERD!
any fucking excuse!
any fucking excuse!
He's wrong anyway cos the Escort WRC cars had 8 pot Brembo on!!
#33
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by wayne thomas
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Rainbow you NERD!
any fucking excuse!
any fucking excuse!
He's wrong anyway cos the Escort WRC cars had 8 pot Brembo on!!
#34
Originally Posted by wayne thomas
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by wayne thomas
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Rainbow you NERD!
any fucking excuse!
any fucking excuse!
He's wrong anyway cos the Escort WRC cars had 8 pot Brembo on!!
---- Rainbow
#35
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by wayne thomas
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Rainbow you NERD!
any fucking excuse!
any fucking excuse!
He's wrong anyway cos the Escort WRC cars had 8 pot Brembo on!!
Ps Dave who is that bit of man stud in your Siggy! He looks devine!
#38
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Originally Posted by marco polo
I have the AP 4pots (Cp 5200) with 330mm x28mm discs on the rs2000 and these are the bizz i rate them highly
marco
marco
Its all very well having massive brakes, but it gets to the point where they are getting too good for road tyres - you really need to be using slicks to make use of their full stopping power.
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[quote="School boy"]
It is more of a book than a mag, but its not hardback, it was done by Performance Ford for WHSmith, will find and the date and post it up here.
They were cosworth 1 - 5 they come up on e bay sometimes.
Originally Posted by School boy
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
no probs at all mate but just wondered where you got that from?
is the mag an old one by any chance?
is the mag an old one by any chance?