THE RADMAN

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ive seen a few esc cossies with 5 stud hub conversions,which car are they from? and what is the pcd of them please

Turbo Zetec

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i'd guess they were from granada 4x4's and the pcd is something like 112mm iirc

THE RADMAN

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thanks,anyone confirm this?

TIFF

I had a Granda Cosworth on an M Plate and that was 5 stud

The Youth.

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they are deffo from granada 4x4's m8
well the fronts are the backs are from any 5 stud mk3 granny

steve

Damocos

Yep, granny hubs, 5x112 pcd and still a 63.4 centre hub size. Rear brakes from a 24v are the same diameter as 4x4 cossie but the fronts are only 278mm and only as 2wd offset so a big brake upgrade would need to be done to look good. Suppose it will give ya a wider range of wheels tho as the stud pattern is the same as Mercs and some Audi's

dojj

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granada hub flanges only, the 4wd granada's are getting pretty rare on the ground so if you want them get them found

or you can buy new ones for about £100 each side, but you will need new bearings on the fronts, the rears might just be doable but for the money you might as well get them done too

seen loads of sierra xr4x4's with this done and have done it myself about 2.5 years ago so once you've figured out how to get the brakes to fit (redrilling the driscs to the granada pattern is easiest or get your bells done with a big disc kit) it's all systems go

Rippers

Does it change the offset?

dojj

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nope, not in the slightest

you still get nice recessed rims in the arch as it's the brakes and hub mounts that are offset, not the actul hub face itself, that iwll stay the same

THE RADMAN

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is there anyway i could get some to go to 5x120pcd, as there are loads of great looking wheels for bmw,s

gus

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would the granny hubs work on a mk6 feista?

Stavros

Shame cant go to 5x114.3, ie Jap motors, then you can FINALLY get some properly cool rims.

THE RADMAN

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there must be a way round this somehow i used to have spacer adaptors on with the r/harts,but i dont think they would work with 5x120

dojj

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the problem with getting the hubs redrilled is that they aready have 8 holes in them, so you have no meat left to put the other holes

i've recently got rid of the ones i had but i ight be able to get some pics of some to show you what i mean

PAUL S

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To fit beemer wheels you need to swap over to the 4x4 grannie hubs but as these are not the same pcd as the beemer wheels you then need to add a set of 5 to 5 hub converters to match the bigger pcd - obviously this widens the track and could cause rubbing issues

You cannot go from 4 to 5 via a hub spacer as the holes clash unless you go so thick that they dont, but that involves a 50mm plus spacer so you would end up looking like one of those pumped up 4x4 jap 80,s rhino things beloved of the Ali G types

2wd

So...will it be possible to convert a 2wd Sapp Cosworth to 5 studs.... ?

And if so how much is needed to do it ... ? And will offset be changed ?

THE RADMAN

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anyone got any 5 stud hubs off a 4x4 granny that they want to sell? pm me if you have

dojj

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yes, pretty straightforward done a few over the past years, the same as changing the wheel bearings (which you will have to do) not as simple on the 4wd cars as you need to source granada 4x4 front hubs but you can't just swap them over directly as the brake mounting lugs have the wrong offsets

have a butchers at these


the bits with the studs sticking out are all you need to change
but obviously this means undoing the hubs nuts and removing the bearings etc
hence the reason you just need to source a set of hub flanges and swap them into the existing carriers
any granada will do as they are all the same, you may be able to source a complete car for the cost of getting the bits you want, i regulalry collect cars for free, strip them of bits and then get someone to collect the remains and the cheapest i've bought a whole complete running granada for is £22 off of ebay and i've collected a free one too, if i had known these parts were in such high demand i would have taken them off, only one nut and out they come

i'll see if i can find a picture of the old hubs i sent off

dojj

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alternativly. buy this and get everything as a bolt on

you'll have to change the shafts and stubs for the 2wd ones if you want to run huge amounts of power through but at this price it's really cheap

Dunccoss

THE RADMAN

I have looked in to this and this is what i found out and is probley the best way to go.
you can keep your studs and just use a spacer with different pcd, 5 stud instead off 4, just might need to get them made up to what you want, only thing you need to check is the wheels that you whould like to fit come in an off set off about et 35 min as you will need 20 / 25mm for the spacer

cheers dunc

2wd

yes .. please do.

THE RADMAN

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dunc as far as i know the spacers wont work due to one of the 5 bolts clashing with one of the orig studs as per earlier post in this thread

Fastmaul

Actually, this is from a vendor on my forum (the topic was as it is here, 4 bolt to 5 bolt hubs)....

We have some ARP wheel studs in stock that solve many 5-lug conversion problems. These wheel studs have gigantic knurl diameters, and if you start with Scorpio(that's our American Granada) stuff all you have to do is drill the 5x114.3 bolt pattern over the existing 5x112 holes. The knurl is so large that the old holes are completely engulfed by the new holes. Easy!

Moose 130

these would probably do the job.

http://www.machine7.com/product.php?xProd=1168&xSec=601

The Vdub boys have been changing bolt patterns for years

RichieST

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my mk3 mondeo is 5 stud. Also has 300mm discs up front too standard

Stavros

Awesome, makes me wanna go buy a 3dr again, make it properly cool this time...

dojj

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but only a 108pcd mate
the granada's are 112

2wd

did you find some pic's ??

dojj

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i'll get some of the 4 studs, but the ones of the 5 studs i'm waiting for the guy tot send to me

you can see where the other 3 holes are in thm which makes redrilling them a no no

dojj

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this is a rear hub from a sierra
you will see that it's got 2 access holes for the hub carrier bolts to come out through
on the granada rears there are 3 so you can't redrill them

the shaft is where the bearing sit and these are the same as on the granada and sierra's so they are interchangable

on the 4wd fronts you will have the same arrangement BUT due to the difference in splines (i think, i'm not well so i can't go to the garage and find out for sure, it might be the actual shaft lengths) you can't just bolt the rears to the fronts

on the 2wd versions the bits where the bearings go are swapped for a threaded section so that you can tighten them up from behnd the cap on the hub rather than at the face of the hub

hope that amkes things clearer for you

2wd

hmmm...hopefully

as I understand it I will only need the outer hub and a new set of bearings to do the job on my 2wd Sapp. Cos ... right ?

dojj

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yes mate

rear bearings are easy, you just need to find something that will undo them and then tighten them up again to something like the 220ft/lbs they need to go to

the fronts i've never done so i couldn't tell you how to do them, but if the abs ring is seperate then you might wan to make sure things go back in again the same way (on the 4wd cars they are integral with the drive stubs as are the rears)

2wd

ok... and thanks