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How different a drive? E36 TDS and BMW engined Omega CDX?

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Old 12-12-2006, 11:50 AM
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Default How different a drive? E36 TDS and BMW engined Omega CDX?

I'm going to be flogging the MR2 soon and getting an E36 325TDS as I'm spending a fortune on fuel

But then I had a look at the Omegas with the BMW engine and found that I could get a much newer car for same money. My only concerns are on whether the Omega would be a shit drive compared to the BMW.

Anybody any experiences?

Right now I'm still thinking the Beemer would be best as I really liked my petrol one.
Old 12-12-2006, 11:55 AM
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All depends on preference!

I've always found the bmw's feel nicer on the road, more solid and all the other bits inside are a bit better made.

Try one of each

I'd personally go for the beemer
Old 12-12-2006, 12:00 PM
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Aye, well whichever I get is going for a nice trip down to Mr Stu for some treatment. I loved my old Beemer. Won't drive exactly same but I imagine the handling and quality etc will be spot on.
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Ive been looking to get an E36 325TDS
Old 12-12-2006, 12:11 PM
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I prefer the bmw personally, but in terms of which makes the most sense financially, it has to be the omega i should think.

As above, try one of each is your best bet mate.
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The Omega handles VERY well for its size.

the engine is sat back in the bulk head and this makes a difference!

if you can, get a manual version as the Auto is a bit pants, but the BMW TD fuel pumps can fail. one is cheap to fix, the other isnt

good car otherwise, not the fastest in the world, but quiet and you dont get so much of the diesel clatter thanks to BMW making the engine sound a bit petrolish.

Oh, also, the 325TDS has an intercooler, the Omega doesnt.
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
if you can, get a manual version as the Auto is a bit pants, but the BMW TD fuel pumps can fail. one is cheap to fix, the other isnt

good car otherwise, not the fastest in the world, but quiet and you dont get so much of the diesel clatter thanks to BMW making the engine sound a bit petrolish.

Oh, also, the 325TDS has an intercooler, the Omega doesnt.
Correct on the fuel pumps - one is getting on for a 1k job at a dealer.

I presume the Omega is the 325td engine then rather than the tds?
Old 12-12-2006, 01:45 PM
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would rather look for a e34 with the tds engine

i have a couple and its bloody good as a daily runner
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Originally Posted by Mike1
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if you can, get a manual version as the Auto is a bit pants, but the BMW TD fuel pumps can fail. one is cheap to fix, the other isnt

good car otherwise, not the fastest in the world, but quiet and you dont get so much of the diesel clatter thanks to BMW making the engine sound a bit petrolish.

Oh, also, the 325TDS has an intercooler, the Omega doesnt.
Correct on the fuel pumps - one is getting on for a 1k job at a dealer.

I presume the Omega is the 325td engine then rather than the tds?
yes its the 325td version.

Oddly, the Omega gets better fuel economy than the BMW according to all the stats!

Its often the electrics that fail in the pumps - had 2 fail.

Also the lift pump can go (its near the tank) causing warm starting issues and also causing starting issues when the fuel level is below 15 or so litres.
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Nice E46 330d you want mate
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Nice E46 330d you want mate
He cant afford one, dont you keep up to date with JayEnders on here?
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Rhys
Nice E46 330d you want mate
He cant afford one, dont you keep up to date with JayEnders on here?


i must say Jay, you do eem to change cars more often than i change my pants

and thats quite often, too
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Originally Posted by fudgeass
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Rhys
Nice E46 330d you want mate
He cant afford one, dont you keep up to date with JayEnders on here?


i must say Jay, you do eem to change cars more often than i change my pants

and thats quite often, too
Yeah I know lol. Normally thru boredom but this time through economy!

I will most likely get the beemer. Thought the Omega was the TDS engine not the TD.
Old 12-12-2006, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
The Omega handles VERY well for its size.

the engine is sat back in the bulk head and this makes a difference!

if you can, get a manual version as the Auto is a bit pants, but the BMW TD fuel pumps can fail. one is cheap to fix, the other isnt

good car otherwise, not the fastest in the world, but quiet and you dont get so much of the diesel clatter thanks to BMW making the engine sound a bit petrolish.

Oh, also, the 325TDS has an intercooler, the Omega doesnt.

My old Omega 2.5 TD Select estate had an intercooler below the drivers headlight
Old 12-12-2006, 09:17 PM
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is this the five cylinder engine?
Old 12-12-2006, 09:22 PM
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no 6 pot JAmes...



Its not just down to TD and TDS

The Omega has lower spec Fuel Injection Equipment - so always makes less power and is less refined.

Alex
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what power are they then?

predecessor to the 330d without common rail iassume?
Old 12-12-2006, 09:42 PM
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can u run the 325TDS on chip fat?

lol @ Chip too.
Old 13-12-2006, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Originally Posted by SapphyMike
The Omega handles VERY well for its size.

the engine is sat back in the bulk head and this makes a difference!

if you can, get a manual version as the Auto is a bit pants, but the BMW TD fuel pumps can fail. one is cheap to fix, the other isnt

good car otherwise, not the fastest in the world, but quiet and you dont get so much of the diesel clatter thanks to BMW making the engine sound a bit petrolish.

Oh, also, the 325TDS has an intercooler, the Omega doesnt.

My old Omega 2.5 TD Select estate had an intercooler below the drivers headlight
very odd - neither my brothers nor my dads had / has one that i could see.

hmmmm.

i stand corrected then!
Old 13-12-2006, 08:55 AM
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The 3 litre engine is called a M57 the 2.5 is a M51.

Alex
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if your doing for econmy etc, would the omega not be cheaper to insure?

id still go for the bimmer tho, i hate vauxhalls
Old 13-12-2006, 10:26 AM
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It's all relative of course...
Each end of the scale
BMW are giving away 730 dse's at the moment 500 a month will see you in one.
or
Get a Peugeot 405 built like brick *hit houses change the oil and make sure it's always got anti freeze in it and it'll last forever.
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Take it to Jeremy Fearne to wave his magic wand over it and it'll beat standard RS turbo's and still do 40 MPG.
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Originally Posted by ivorbiggun
Take it to Jeremy Fearne to wave his magic wand over it and it'll beat standard RS turbo's and still do 40 MPG.
good luck finding a standard rs turbo to race

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Not many cars would fail to beat a standard rst I would have thought!
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