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Old 07-12-2006, 08:22 PM
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ive had to wear glasses for the past 8 years or so but ive only been realy wearing them for the past year just to watch tv or see things far away but ive tryed contacts & they where gash & pissed me off as i have a thing called a rugby ball eye

any way you can read what people say about lazer eye treatment on the lazer eye flyers all you like but has any body had it done on here as im looking into getting it done in the newyear & its pretty cheap aswell at £360 an eye?
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2 of my pals have had it done.....no regrets..eyes are mint
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Your eyes sound similar to mine. I started wearing them in 97 and only within the last 18 months to 2 years i've had to always wear them for tv, driving etc.

I went for a laser eye consultancy and apparently my eyes arent bad enough!!! You need to be at least a prescription of 1.0 cant rem if thats + or -.

I also hated contacts and got sore eyes with things up close. I cant wait until my eyes are acceptable to get done!

Dont build your hopes up bout doing it until you have the appointment. BTW i went to a place on union st in abz. Near E+M's. Forget the name.

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Someone I work with has had it done and he was quite wary about it but he's really glad he did now, his sight is so much better.
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
2 of my pals have had it done.....no regrets..eyes are mint
not a spec of rust

cheers mate any more
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ive got a card thing in my wallet;


right; sph is -1.75 cyl is -1.00 axis is 170
left ; sph is -3.25 cyl is -1.50 axis is 1.65

does that qualify do you know cos i havent a clue what that means
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5 mins after it hurts like an absolute absolute cunt and you have to wait 5 mins for drops and the pain is gone but it is proper stamp your feet shout out pain!!!!!!!


That was a couple of years ago now though so it might of changed
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this might sound silly but i was watching newly weds with jessica simpson & she got it done & she wasnt complaining at all about pain or anything

S2martinhas it made a significent change to you mate

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A friend had hers done about 8 years ago............


She picks up her new glasses next week!!
Old 08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
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Dad had it done a few weeks back, eyes were massivly sensitive for 2 days (not looking at any light at all) said it was worth it

but whatever way round it was (longsited i think) it now is almost the complete opersite
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PhilM has had them done..accuvision in London iirc.

He was blind as fuck prior to it and can see fine now...job's a good'un...only thing was he said you could smell burning flesh when they burnt away the tissue in your eye, how vile does that sound!
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Katie

was phil long or short sighted ???

pondering getting a check up my self

as if i get 5 by 5 ..got 4 at the moment

new options open in my job
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Originally Posted by Katie
PhilM has had them done..activision in London iirc.
Dont these make games?

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atari years ago

spelling via vodka.com..

it looked wrong but the site is there

http://www.uk.atari.com/
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I had mine done earlier this year-optical express-and I found it was pretty painful for about 2 days after.
The whole process is a bit and miss too as my eyes haven't been corrected enough (short sighted) so I still wear glasses for driving!!
I was pretty blind tho
i can confirm that the smell of burning flesh is not nice,especially when it's your own.
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Originally Posted by phil4x4saph
A friend had hers done about 8 years ago............


She picks up her new glasses next week!!
Mark you have a "stigmatism" (sp) and need torric lenses, that is what your rugby ball eye is all about.

I have been told that laser treatment is NOT permanent and your eyes will again start to go bad, probably by the "1" difference where they say you should be wearing glasses (what I used to know as 20 20 vision is now measured on a scale of 1 to 9 apparently and being off by 1 is when you start to need glasses for certain things)

I was told that this difference of one would most likely happen in as little as 2 years

I was also told that where you now have a choice if on "special" occasions you choose to want to wear your contacts, after laser eye treatment you will never be able to wear contacts again, your eyes will be to sensitive and painful with contacts in, so means you will only ever be able to wear your glasses

All this is presuming you have a good job done, and all goes as well as it could, any mistakes and well you can imagine the worst case

The guy showed me some pics of failed ops , but even on good ones he could always see when someone has had it done with the scaring left.

He also said it isnt just the cheapo "back street" ones that go wrong

The guy WAS on optician wanting me to buy contacts, but was a straight guy who didnt charge me for certain things he shouldve, and to this day have never ordered any from him (just a guy who works for specsavers).

You can say he was telling me this stuff for a reason , but "I" would advise anybody thinking of doing this to investgate ALOT before doing it !

Find out stuff about all the aftercare appointments you have to do aswell that they dont mention in the panflets, cant remember too much about this now cos I was already put off enough by this stage.

Thats my input anyway.


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Old 08-12-2006, 06:36 AM
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this is worrying now


i need glasses for reading an for the tv/computer

and i will also need em for driving next year.

if this will help me see better, then i'll be getting it done

i can just about see the mph on my escort speedo withoutglasses at night
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Originally Posted by The Rapid 1
Originally Posted by phil4x4saph
A friend had hers done about 8 years ago............


She picks up her new glasses next week!!
Mark you have a "stigmatism" (sp) and need torric lenses, that is what your rugby ball eye is all about.

I have been told that laser treatment is NOT permanent and your eyes will again start to go bad, probably by the "1" difference where they say you should be wearing glasses (what I used to know as 20 20 vision is now measured on a scale of 1 to 9 apparently and being off by 1 is when you start to need glasses for certain things)

I was told that this difference of one would most likely happen in as little as 2 years

I was also told that where you now have a choice if on "special" occasions you choose to want to wear your contacts, after laser eye treatment you will never be able to wear contacts again, your eyes will be to sensitive and painful with contacts in, so means you will only ever be able to wear your glasses

All this is presuming you have a good job done, and all goes as well as it could, any mistakes and well you can imagine the worst case

The guy showed me some pics of failed ops , but even on good ones he could always see when someone has had it done with the scaring left.

He also said it isnt just the cheapo "back street" ones that go wrong

The guy WAS on optician wanting me to buy contacts, but was a straight guy who didnt charge me for certain things he shouldve, and to this day have never ordered any from him (just a guy who works for specsavers).

You can say he was telling me this stuff for a reason , but "I" would advise anybody thinking of doing this to investgate ALOT before doing it !

Find out stuff about all the aftercare appointments you have to do aswell that they dont mention in the panflets, cant remember too much about this now cos I was already put off enough by this stage.

Thats my input anyway.


Steve
wot a load bollocks mate i had mine done 3 years ago this week and they are still spot on my persription was -5.75 in both eyes with stigmatism in one i now have 20/20 vision they did say as you get older your eyes may get worse but that was due to AGE the same as most people. i went to ultra laze they were not the cheapest but very good. also i am a printer so need good eye site
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willthis cure my vision aswell cause when i look at car lights at night i see straight lines comming offn them,,,,,, like a glowing around the light at night

apart from that my eyes are pukka but i have noticed when at night the glare does appear to affect my distance perception,,,,,, might just be me though


dont wanna wear glasses,,,,, rather get it done ine than fook about at docs for me eyes
Old 08-12-2006, 10:25 AM
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ive almost had this done twice but chickened out
done a consultation with optimax, which i thought were a bit lame and unprofessional and they were doing a buy 1 get 1 free deal, 1 person pays and another gets free but obviously ud share the cost!!!
ultralase seemed the best one at the time and bit more expensive, this was all about 3 years ago now..
im blind as fuck without glasses -7.0 in each eye

ginge, do the lazer, cant imagine you with glasses mate, youd look like a poet

just bear in mind, when u see pretty white car lights with straight line coming off them, just try not to drift in front of them stick to the left of them!
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you will get the starburst effect im affaid that is the only thing that has got a bit worse for me
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Originally Posted by GavStyli
im blind as fuck without glasses -7.0 in each eye
that's quite a prescription
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This is quite popular here with various radio ads for it. Prices above seem a bit cheaper than here too.

Was talking to a mate in Reading when I came back in May who has tried various contact lenses and glasses over the years. I asked him if he had considered it and he had but there was still the chances of seeing stars once it was done (if it doesnt go to plan) so he was waiting until more was known about the consequences.

That said, my g/f's step mum had it done a few years back and has had no problems although they can need doing again.

I wear glasses for night driving to sharpen the edges of objects but dont need them for anything else.
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
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Originally Posted by phil4x4saph
A friend had hers done about 8 years ago............


She picks up her new glasses next week!!
Mark you have a "stigmatism" (sp) and need torric lenses, that is what your rugby ball eye is all about.

I have been told that laser treatment is NOT permanent and your eyes will again start to go bad, probably by the "1" difference where they say you should be wearing glasses (what I used to know as 20 20 vision is now measured on a scale of 1 to 9 apparently and being off by 1 is when you start to need glasses for certain things)

I was told that this difference of one would most likely happen in as little as 2 years

I was also told that where you now have a choice if on "special" occasions you choose to want to wear your contacts, after laser eye treatment you will never be able to wear contacts again, your eyes will be to sensitive and painful with contacts in, so means you will only ever be able to wear your glasses

All this is presuming you have a good job done, and all goes as well as it could, any mistakes and well you can imagine the worst case

The guy showed me some pics of failed ops , but even on good ones he could always see when someone has had it done with the scaring left.

He also said it isnt just the cheapo "back street" ones that go wrong

The guy WAS on optician wanting me to buy contacts, but was a straight guy who didnt charge me for certain things he shouldve, and to this day have never ordered any from him (just a guy who works for specsavers).

You can say he was telling me this stuff for a reason , but "I" would advise anybody thinking of doing this to investgate ALOT before doing it !

Find out stuff about all the aftercare appointments you have to do aswell that they dont mention in the panflets, cant remember too much about this now cos I was already put off enough by this stage.

Thats my input anyway.


Steve
wot a load bollocks mate i had mine done 3 years ago this week and they are still spot on my persription was -5.75 in both eyes with stigmatism in one i now have 20/20 vision they did say as you get older your eyes may get worse but that was due to AGE the same as most people. i went to ultra laze they were not the cheapest but very good. also i am a printer so need good eye site

You have your view I'll have mine

But think back to when you first needed glasses, how long was it do you recon from when you stopped having 20 20 to realising you MAy need glasses so had your eyes checked, in normal people that takes years cos you just dont realise, they degenerate slowly and you dont even notice, normally only when people arround you are seeing things that you are struggling to.
What I am saying is it will take you back to that stage again, so you will get good vision for a few years before you realise they are deteriating again, only this time you will be even more unlikely to WANT to realise and ackmowledge it due to the fact youve paid your money and had an operation to put your eyes right.
So you will probably be looking at a good 5 years + before you will realise something needs doing, and in reality there arent that many people about at the momment that had surgery that ammount of time ago, because it is only in the last year or two that the prices have come down to a level where ALOT of people, the normal joe average, can realisticly look at it and afford to have it done.

I recon in a few years time there going to be some unhappy people out there

Personally im not conceited or vain enough to risk fucking the eyes ive got up with just to look ggod and not to have to wear glasses, and yes in my line of work not waering contacts or glasses would make my job easier, or pastimes like riiding motorbikes a bit more fun, but like I say I'M not willing to risk it JUST YET, will be leaving it a few years as I say to see what all you first generation treatment patients really think, when you will hear of a few more of the long term pros and cons

Also dont believe you can actually have it done more than once, not 100% on this tho

But anyway to anyone that has had it done, really do hope you are happy with the results and hope it has helped in your life

Let me know in 10 years what you think tho aye plz and I may join ya

Steve
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You probably don't want to hear this if you're going ahead with the treatment but my Uncle had it done. Worked well in one eye, though not 20/20, and he went completely blind in the other eye. He is a plumber so this has made his job very difficult.
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Had mine done 20 months ago now, absolutely fine, best thing i've ever done and for only £595 for both eyes including the consultation fee.

I used Optimax in London. If you phone up and get it done within 14 days of booking you normally get for half price.

Can't remember if I had Lasik rather than Epi-Lasik but I was simply zapped rather than having an incision made first and then zapped.
I don't think my memory was effected at all by the op


Its NOT necessarily on the strength of your eyes that determines which method they use. Some people with reasonable eye sight have to have the more expensive op.

To give a comparison:

Before op I was short sighted with 4.5 left and 5.25 right, the A at the top of the sight test chart was quite blurred.
I also had alot of stigmatism.

With glasses I could read 7 lines (the bottom) of the chart.

After the op I can read 6 lines down and have no stigmatism.

I used specsavers which have 7 lines in total.
3rd line down in 10/20 vision which is minimum for driving and fooking dangerous in my opinion.
5th line down is 20/20 vision.

Basically the best long vision you can have is with glasses as being away from the eye they act as binoculars.

The only downside for me is driving at night means my eyes are probably around 18/20 vision, the definition isn't quite there, glare isn't that much of a problem.
My short sighted vision really really close up was incredible but now its not quite as good but still excellent.

For the first 2 or 3 months it does feel a bit strange.

If you're around 42/43yrs old your eyes will normally change so take note of what they comment on.

I'd suggest to anyone to go for a consultation first without deciding then and there, your eyes might not be suitable but if they are take your time t decide.

My sister drove me to the surgery and saw the op being done, shes almost blind without glasses and considered Laser but decided in the end to go back on contact lenses.
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so with all this,,,,,, how can i stop the star effect/lights glowing effect when driving,,,, its never bothered me before BUT i do remember a time when i never had this,,,,, also i do struggle to see the scores on the football in the pub,,,,,, but only on the plasma tv's and they also have a big screen so thats kind of solve that problem



and gav,,,,, looking like a poet would mean i would look educated,,,,, how cool would that be,,,, time for the fake glasses like in school but i wont be nicked em from donald and achinson like last time
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oh the missus wears glasses for reading,,,, i tried them to see if that helps as shes wicked at reading motorway sign/busses and they made me almost fooking blind aswell as made the floor fooked up so it was like i was pissed when walking


my old man also has SHITE eye sight,,,,, his old glasses had lenses that look like the window in natwest,,,,,, now there MUCH thinner,,,,, but they cost him fooking loads cause there still blind person glasses but with a difference thinner lense,,,,, hes eyes are soo bad that if he had contacts they would have to be a inch think,,,, looking in his glasses is like looking through a windscreen after your mate melted his engine in the rain and you hit yopur wiper blades,,,,, YOU CANT SEE FOOK ALL !!!!

GO KNOWS HOW HE CAN as i found it easier with me eyes closed
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My dads mate had it done about 6 months ago and if i was u dont do it
he said worst thing he ever did he get black dots going a cross his eyes and they go cloudy etc... and by the end of the day he said the eyes dry out and a so sore etc..
and he cant claim 4 nuffin
think about hat be 4 u go a head wif it
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Originally Posted by RST
My dads mate had it done about 6 months ago and if i was u dont do it
he said worst thing he ever did he get black dots going a cross his eyes and they go cloudy etc... and by the end of the day he said the eyes dry out and a so sore etc..
and he cant claim 4 nuffin
think about hat be 4 u go a head wif it
who done your mates dads eyes?
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not sure but i will find out i no he payed a lot of money and it was not one of them cheap crap ones
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My dad has had this done this time alst year and has made his eyes wondersm, he has to wear glasses still with a prisim len's or something but has improved his actually seeing some how anyhows id say go with it
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I had it done three years ago, best £4k I ever spent It's awesome.

A few things to remember however, which will try and put an end to some of the sh*t chatted by people with no experience - but they have a mate...! (Not refering to anyone here, but loads of people are like it )

1) The laser has a small percentage error. Therefore, if you have a large correction, say from -10D, you may end up at -0.25D after surgery. This is NOT because they fucked up, or "It didn't work", it's because it has an error tolerance. If you were say -2D beforehand, the chances are you will have no refractive error afterwards. So, the higher your initial prescription, the bigger the chance of not being fully corrected first go.

You can of course go for an enhancement, which will then sort the remaining -0.25D down to 0, and of course, the same percentage tolerance on the laser will still be there, but it will be insignificant with such a small correction.


2) It doesnt "not work" if you need glasses/contacts a few years down the line. They request you have a stable prescription before doing the surgery, this is for a reason!!!.

Remember, all the laser is doing is engraving a permenant prescription lense on your eye.

If you were regressing -0.5D every 2 years or so, you can expect that in a few years your vision will have worsened. This is not the fault of the laser surgery, it's just what happens.....exactly the same as it does when you have to buy new glasses every few years with a different strength lense.

So if your like this, needing different glasses every few years, either don't get it done, or, accept you will have great vision for say 5 years, then it may drop off, of course this can then be enhanced at a later date if your cornea is still thick enough.

Hope this helps to end some of the myths about it "not working"
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I've had consultation after consultation for laser surgery, but because my eyes are both + 5.75 no-one will give me a definate 'yes we can do that no problem' all i get is my eyes may fall below driving standard and no matter if i wear glasses or not i wont be able to see well enough to drive.

On the other hand my mate had this done but he was short sighted -3 or something and he has no regrets.
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Dude, I was -10 odd......get to Accuvision, yes they are bloody expensive, but they specialise in higher refractive error cases

Check their website and testomonials etc
Old 08-12-2006, 05:49 PM
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i do not see the need to risk it. i would rather persevere with contact lenses most of the time and glasses occassionally (they give a man another look )
Old 08-12-2006, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilM
I had it done three years ago, best £4k I ever spent It's awesome.

A few things to remember however, which will try and put an end to some of the sh*t chatted by people with no experience - but they have a mate...! (Not refering to anyone here, but loads of people are like it )

1) The laser has a small percentage error. Therefore, if you have a large correction, say from -10D, you may end up at -0.25D after surgery. This is NOT because they fucked up, or "It didn't work", it's because it has an error tolerance. If you were say -2D beforehand, the chances are you will have no refractive error afterwards. So, the higher your initial prescription, the bigger the chance of not being fully corrected first go.

You can of course go for an enhancement, which will then sort the remaining -0.25D down to 0, and of course, the same percentage tolerance on the laser will still be there, but it will be insignificant with such a small correction.


2) It doesnt "not work" if you need glasses/contacts a few years down the line. They request you have a stable prescription before doing the surgery, this is for a reason!!!.

Remember, all the laser is doing is engraving a permenant prescription lense on your eye.

If you were regressing -0.5D every 2 years or so, you can expect that in a few years your vision will have worsened. This is not the fault of the laser surgery, it's just what happens.....exactly the same as it does when you have to buy new glasses every few years with a different strength lense.

So if your like this, needing different glasses every few years, either don't get it done, or, accept you will have great vision for say 5 years, then it may drop off, of course this can then be enhanced at a later date if your cornea is still thick enough.

Hope this helps to end some of the myths about it "not working"
I agree with that mostly
Thats what I was saying about eventualy you will probably need to start wearing glasses again at some point, would think that most peoples eyes, once they have started deteriated to a point of needing glasses (not including people born with eyesight defficiences ), they will carry on deteriating , so once you have had the surgery, a few years down the line you would either need glasses or contacts again or more surgery .

The bits I'm not so sure on, as what I was told, you wouldnt have the choice of the contacts so would only leave glasses or more surgery, and that would be at a "cost £££" again or even if it was possible to undergo it again ???

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Old 08-12-2006, 08:23 PM
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i had it done in april by optical express top of range wavefront cost £2000 but best thing i have done as i was short sighted very badly,7min it took and an afternoon of discomfort was worth it all,and im a shitebag to get a filling
Old 13-12-2006, 05:08 PM
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It's something that I've thought of as I've been wearing glasses since I was in Primary 6. Been wearing them permenatly since 1st Year of academy.

My prescription is:
Right: Sph -425 Cyl +150 Axis 112
Left: Sph -600 Cyl +250 Axis 66

It's very bad!! Can't see sh!t without them, however i can still swim no probs, as I've yet to ram into the ends of the pools! lol!

My workm8's wife had her's done a few years back and been fine up till now. She loves it.

i just don't fancy being the unlucky one who eyes get burnt to bits if the op goes wrong. I decided that wearing glasses is worth every penny as I don't want to live my life being blind.
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my glasses broke about 4 weeks ago


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