Norris Evo times (new figures + Sierra times on page 7)
07-12-2006, 02:30 PM
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good point, im just thinking in FWD terms as thats all im used to 
would it be down to the diff simply not coping with the power beeing put through it
on another note any one what the split is on the drive on the car, are they 50/50 standard ?
would it be down to the diff simply not coping with the power beeing put through iton another note any one what the split is on the drive on the car, are they 50/50 standard ?
07-12-2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by chip-3door
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Originally Posted by Porkie
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why does the car car too the left when pulling hard? if the chassis twisting? 
but why is it spinning one tyre on the front?Its possible i guess, seems less likely on a transverse setup though, although obvioulsy the prop will still be exerting a force through the tranny box that shifts torque sideways through the shell.
One would hope that the shell is FAR too stiff for that to be a big issue though?
07-12-2006, 02:38 PM
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Its becuause its got an open front diff IIRC.
Probably for handling, as this car actually gets used, its not a drag car.
Probably for handling, as this car actually gets used, its not a drag car.
07-12-2006, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
One would hope that the shell is FAR too stiff for that to be a big issue though?
an open diff dont really explain it, as its always turns one way
07-12-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
One would hope that the shell is FAR too stiff for that to be a big issue though?
an open diff dont really explain it, as its always turns one way
An open diff potentially means one wheel turning (hence still with grip) and the other one spinning, so it acts like tank tracks where its driving more on one side than the other and rotates the car.
Thats what nearly every open diff FWD car does anyway, so seems logical it would still apply.
07-12-2006, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
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One would hope that the shell is FAR too stiff for that to be a big issue though?
an open diff dont really explain it, as its always turns one way
An open diff potentially means one wheel turning (hence still with grip) and the other one spinning, so it acts like tank tracks where its driving more on one side than the other and rotates the car.
Thats what nearly every open diff FWD car does anyway, so seems logical it would still apply.
07-12-2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by GARETH T
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One would hope that the shell is FAR too stiff for that to be a big issue though?
an open diff dont really explain it, as its always turns one way
An open diff potentially means one wheel turning (hence still with grip) and the other one spinning, so it acts like tank tracks where its driving more on one side than the other and rotates the car.
Thats what nearly every open diff FWD car does anyway, so seems logical it would still apply.
Not always the least traction, also due to shorter shaft transmitting more power, or a cv joint having more play that results in a shock load or many other reasons.
He might just have a habbit of sitting with the wheel turned a TINY bit one way too of course, lol
07-12-2006, 03:03 PM
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I was standing with Rocket Ronnie once and we were watching Simon launch... Ronnie said out loud 'why does Norris always turn the steering wheel left when he launches... He would go alot faster if he kept the fucking wheel straight. is it a nervous twitch? Does he want me to have a go and show him how its done?'
He said it TOTALLY Seriously and was completely dead pan which made it even funnier
He said it TOTALLY Seriously and was completely dead pan which made it even funnier
07-12-2006, 03:11 PM
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Deffo the front diff thing actually...
Thats from one of the guys he came with to SantaPod that day.
The going off to one side is down to the fact that Si doesn't use an uprated diff in the front, its down to the torque, or so he says anyway
07-12-2006, 05:08 PM
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Very impressive....
But i know theres a certain car thats going to blow this into the weeds next season ..... has already done so in past years and new spec should see it do it again
TBC.......
But i know theres a certain car thats going to blow this into the weeds next season ..... has already done so in past years and new spec should see it do it again
TBC.......
07-12-2006, 05:20 PM
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Yes mate....been in it on a road trip with new spec and its something else.
I believe Mark Shead is suitably impressed too and imagine that takes a lot
Should make a very interesting 2007 season....thats what its all about !
I believe Mark Shead is suitably impressed too and imagine that takes a lot
Should make a very interesting 2007 season....thats what its all about !
07-12-2006, 05:25 PM
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Like i said earler in the post i seen it a while ago on the way up to aberdeen and it just looks an animal on the road, i even slowed down to get a proper look. He was crawling at 60 prob to stay off boost and save fuel as wouldnt fancy his chances of making it all the way up that road if he didnt. 
07-12-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by Danny B
Yes I do have something to do with this car, i'm crew chief, and done a far bit of work on it chassis & Axle wise. I'm in one of the pics in the link from when we took the car out to the States and kicked there arse.
Thats you there isn't it?
The Granada thats been mentioned is very impressive, I delt with him to sort his 4 link out while at Hausers a few years back, H got a similar set up to what I done with my saph 4yrs ago. as it happens I'm doing a MK1 granada with the same motor (LS1) for a customer. Driverbility is awsome and the aircon and power steering still works.
07-12-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Has Keith sorted his 60ft times yet Mike?
As hes always had the power to run low 8s or maybe faster, he just needs the grip
As hes always had the power to run low 8s or maybe faster, he just needs the grip
the car can also legally run down to 7.50 also as next year MSA rules/Regs are being enforced. So i'm stocking up on cro-moly as there's ALOT of fast jap cars that will not be allowd to race at the jap meets unless they get a propper cage that meets MSA spec.
this includes 11 second cars!!!
08-12-2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Has Keith sorted his 60ft times yet Mike?
As hes always had the power to run low 8s or maybe faster, he just needs the grip
As hes always had the power to run low 8s or maybe faster, he just needs the grip
As far as i am aware the last time it was mapped was on the 1/4 Mile so there wasnt the ability to map it completely, and it wasnt mapped at full boost either
.....still managed a 9.04 @ 157mph. Once mapped you can only imagine how much better its going to be ...
He did a few 9.2's that day initially when mapping....vid of one of them is here..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geOy7cpiTUo
too fast man
08-12-2006, 12:34 PM
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Apparently Keith was running 1.4's to 60ft during that testing on a very cold day (i.e. serious lack of traction on track). Jesus.... I was getting 1.6's to 60ft in the same conditions and that is deemed at being very very good, but those 60ft times are just in a different league!
08-12-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
high 1.2's should be achievable with Keiths car this year on a good track.
Just away to hit the road see you tomorrow
Keith
08-12-2006, 06:56 PM
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Kieth, i saw you at Avon on 15/10/06, and saw you run 2 9.0 @ 156+mph,
What boost/power was you using that day, and 60ft's?
You/car looked so fast, yet not very loud, which is odd to see on the strip.
What boost/power was you using that day, and 60ft's?
You/car looked so fast, yet not very loud, which is odd to see on the strip.
08-12-2006, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by keithcowie
Originally Posted by Danny B
high 1.2's should be achievable with Keiths car this year on a good track.
Just away to hit the road see you tomorrow
Keith
14-12-2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Simon said he would do 0-100mph with a 4 at the front.... I didn't think he would but he is clearly going to do it easily as soon as he gets a proper launch and the clutch bites!!! 
0-100mph in 4.95 secs.
LEGEND
Sierra just did a low 7 on 1.5 bar... Renton doesn't know how to turn the boost up though the flid
14-12-2006, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by Porkie
Simon said he would do 0-100mph with a 4 at the front.... I didn't think he would but he is clearly going to do it easily as soon as he gets a proper launch and the clutch bites!!!
0-100mph in 4.95 secs.
LEGEND
Sierra just did a low 7 on 1.5 bar... Renton doesn't know how to turn the boost up though the flid
Fucking hell, thats properly going
Got any other figures Lee?