Norris Evo times (new figures + Sierra times on page 7)
05-12-2006, 05:00 PM
#81
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by chip-3door
120mph = 120 * 1609 = 193080 meters per hour
/3600 = 53.6 M/S
It reaches that in 6.3 seconds
So acceleration rate average is 8.5 metres per second per second.
Gravity is 9.8 metres per second per second nominally
So its pulling .867 G
Which by the time you take off wind resistance of a car, means that its probably FASTER in a straight line that it would be off a cliff
/3600 = 53.6 M/S
It reaches that in 6.3 seconds
So acceleration rate average is 8.5 metres per second per second.
Gravity is 9.8 metres per second per second nominally
So its pulling .867 G
Which by the time you take off wind resistance of a car, means that its probably FASTER in a straight line that it would be off a cliff
I think renton should use that in the write up
Can you imagine how boring redline would be if i wrote for it?
...not at all it would make it even more of a pleasure to wipe my arse with.
05-12-2006, 05:05 PM
#82
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by chip-3door
120mph = 120 * 1609 = 193080 meters per hour
/3600 = 53.6 M/S
It reaches that in 6.3 seconds
So acceleration rate average is 8.5 metres per second per second.
Gravity is 9.8 metres per second per second nominally
So its pulling .867 G
Which by the time you take off wind resistance of a car, means that its probably FASTER in a straight line that it would be off a cliff
/3600 = 53.6 M/S
It reaches that in 6.3 seconds
So acceleration rate average is 8.5 metres per second per second.
Gravity is 9.8 metres per second per second nominally
So its pulling .867 G
Which by the time you take off wind resistance of a car, means that its probably FASTER in a straight line that it would be off a cliff
I think renton should use that in the write up
Can you imagine how boring redline would be if i wrote for it?
...not at all it would make it even more of a pleasure to wipe my arse with.
Well wouldnt really be any different to on here then where we are all used to you coming along and putting a load of shit onto every decent thing that gets written
05-12-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by AddyT
cressy And a credit to Simpson Motorsport who built the shell for him. They have built some awesome motors.
As far as I'm aware Martin didn't do the floor work on his Mondeo. Or the roll cage in his Escort... In both occasions I expect it wasn't so much because he couldn't do it, but because there was someone who was better equipped, could do it faster and had more experience in those types of jobs..?
The Veyron gearbox was designed and made by English firm Ricardo. Does that mean you're no longer impressed by Bugatti?
05-12-2006, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
hasn't it done low 9's before?
Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Yes it has.
He now has more power too, so the days of 9.62 being his PB are numbered...
05-12-2006, 07:50 PM
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Figures are amazing. 
I imagine Ł100K is for parts alone. God knows how many hours are in this car so far. 
Id like to think the Norris Evo develops a damn sight more than the Veyrons 125BHP per litre Hell I dont even think the W16 would fit too well in the SWB Evo! Its a sodding massive lump! A dont know if the DSG system is harder or easier on clutches (2 units). I would guess harder, as its a faster change
Any chance of a video clip or are you saving it for a future cover DVD?
I imagine Ł100K is for parts alone. God knows how many hours are in this car so far.
Originally Posted by Renton
I know the engineering of a Veyron is from a different planet, but I still suspect the clutch wouldn't cope with too many more.
Hell I dont even think the W16 would fit too well in the SWB Evo! Its a sodding massive lump! A dont know if the DSG system is harder or easier on clutches (2 units). I would guess harder, as its a faster changeAny chance of a video clip or are you saving it for a future cover DVD?
05-12-2006, 08:00 PM
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.... But I'd love to feel what it feels like inside
He does indeed 
.... But I'd love to feel what it feels like inside
Originally Posted by Porkie
The worlds fastest street car used to be a Vauxhall Calibra
Don't know if is now... still cool as fook! Think Danny B had a part in this??
http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/car_news...umentid=475221
Don't know if is now... still cool as fook! Think Danny B had a part in this??
http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/car_news...umentid=475221
05-12-2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
It has to be one of the fastest all-rounders though - Acceleration, top speed and awesome handling on track! Not many 9 second cars can boast that.
hard to imagain 0-150 in under 10 secs
sure andy f scooby is still quicker tho
05-12-2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Renton
Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by AddyT
cressy And a credit to Simpson Motorsport who built the shell for him. They have built some awesome motors.
As far as I'm aware Martin didn't do the floor work on his Mondeo. Or the roll cage in his Escort... In both occasions I expect it wasn't so much because he couldn't do it, but because there was someone who was better equipped, could do it faster and had more experience in those types of jobs..?
The Veyron gearbox was designed and made by English firm Ricardo. Does that mean you're no longer impressed by Bugatti?
sorry im still impressed by the work he has done and the ideas he has put into it,, but the thought of someone fabricating a shortwheel base car and getting it too work correctly, building the engine, mapping the engine, and building a complete package is breathtaking, so when i was told he didnt build the chassis i wasnt SO impressed by whats been made
and yes the veyron is impressive whoever built it
05-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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Outstanding performance for a road car a huge well done to Simon, One quick question does he use different suspention set ups for days like this where strieght line performance is the order of that day than he uses at say time attack this year?
05-12-2006, 10:31 PM
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Re: Norris Evo performance times
Originally Posted by TiB
Originally Posted by Renton
Santa Pod timing slip details (2nd run)
9.777sec @ 154.67mph
9.777sec @ 154.67mph
What did the datron gear say the qtr was????
How close is it to pods timing???
05-12-2006, 11:00 PM
#101
Re: Norris Evo performance times
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by TiB
Originally Posted by Renton
Santa Pod timing slip details (2nd run)
9.777sec @ 154.67mph
9.777sec @ 154.67mph
What did the datron gear say the qtr was????
How close is it to pods timing???
Judging by:
0-150mph 9.280sec
The two cant be far apart
05-12-2006, 11:02 PM
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05-12-2006, 11:39 PM
#106
Originally Posted by Porkie
wow.... sort the clutch out and some of those little 15' drag tyres that Sumo ran.....
8's easy....
What a fooking car
8's easy....
What a fooking car
So a set of Mickey Thompson ET's or similar on a 15" rim would take a second off his time pretty easily i should think IF he can fit a clutch that would take the strain.
Definately got the potential for an 8, couldnt agree more
06-12-2006, 06:07 AM
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Re: Norris Evo performance times
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by TiB
Originally Posted by Renton
Santa Pod timing slip details (2nd run)
9.777sec @ 154.67mph
9.777sec @ 154.67mph
What did the datron gear say the qtr was????
How close is it to pods timing???
All I know at the moment is that when we handed over the Ł4000+ for the kit I was told it was accurate to 0.1mph, whether that be at 1mph or 1000mph.
I have Datron Vs Santa Pod (TSI I believe?) data for at least 7 runs, so want to crunch those numbers first too...
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Porkie
wow.... sort the clutch out and some of those little 15' drag tyres that Sumo ran.....
8's easy....
What a fooking car
8's easy....
What a fooking car
So a set of Mickey Thompson ET's or similar on a 15" rim would take a second off his time pretty easily i should think IF he can fit a clutch that would take the strain.
Definately got the potential for an 8, couldnt agree more
Ref Mickey Ts etc. I heard a rumour that the MSA or similar organisation has banned them from 'road legal' type competition classes?
With a clean launch, new clutch, no head wind and faultless set of gear changes I reckon there's an 8 in that car with the 18s. Don't forget it's already run a 9.6 @ Santa Pod with less power...
06-12-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: Norris Evo performance times
Originally Posted by Renton
There is a difference between Santa Pod's quarter mile and Datron's. (On the 1 run I have directly compared, Datron says the time was slower, but the ET was a bit quicker). Before I go there I want to raise it with Datron so I have a bit more info.
All I know at the moment is that when we handed over the Ł4000+ for the kit I was told it was accurate to 0.1mph, whether that be at 1mph or 1000mph.
I have Datron Vs Santa Pod (TSI I believe?) data for at least 7 runs, so want to crunch those numbers first too...
All I know at the moment is that when we handed over the Ł4000+ for the kit I was told it was accurate to 0.1mph, whether that be at 1mph or 1000mph.
I have Datron Vs Santa Pod (TSI I believe?) data for at least 7 runs, so want to crunch those numbers first too...
With regards to the ET, i believe pod actually measures slightly in front of the line, so again that sounds exactly how you would expect.
Originally Posted by Renton
I suspect the fact that he hasn't fitted drag wheels/tyres already suggests he wants to keep it as a 100% all rounder..? Changing wheels is one thing, but changing brakes is another.
Originally Posted by Renton
Ref Mickey Ts etc. I heard a rumour that the MSA or similar organisation has banned them from 'road legal' type competition classes?
Not much good having road legal tyres that arent road useable.
Originally Posted by Renton
With a clean launch, new clutch, no head wind and faultless set of gear changes I reckon there's an 8 in that car with the 18s. Don't forget it's already run a 9.6 @ Santa Pod with less power...
06-12-2006, 08:42 AM
#111
Originally Posted by AddyT
cressy And a credit to Simpson Motorsport who built the shell for him. They have built some awesome motors.
did`nt think i`d have to list every person,company who had somethink to do with it 
06-12-2006, 12:05 PM
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Awesome car and hats off to Simon.
As regards to timing gear.......
I have done a fair bit of testing with the Racelogic equipment from the last half of this years season. Testing the equipment at various venues including a couple of rounds of Time Attack, Tuner Grand Prix and also at Avon Park Raceway Drag Strip (along with various testing at Bruntingthorpe).
All I can say is that the Racelogic Driftbox rocks..... big style (and dont be put off by the fact it is called the "Driftbox").
Around Silverstone (on two TA rounds) and Snetterton (for Tuner Grand Prix), it was as accurate as you could ask for against the tracks own timing equipment. You can set the start/finish line as a GPS position once and then you just keep driving, so it will update your current lap time and also give you splits (if setup) and your overall fastest lap to date etc.
At Avon Park Raceway (don't forget this is also a FIA approved dragstrip, so should be as comparable against the timing gear used at Santa Pod) it was recording times within a nats cock of the official timing gear (I did this in October at AP, but I am sure it was because the times are only to 1 decimal place, so it was rounding up, but the speed was bang on).
The Driftbox uses GPS and has some really good features like overlaying GPS data against background maps and also track maps that are available (so you can see the lines you took etc). Obviously all captured data is available to download to PC to compare.
Now.... the beauty of this is, is that it only costs about Ł460!!!!!
Whilst I have not tested this against Datron stuff myself (I have been told by others it is AS accurate), the fact that the Datron stuff costs 10 times as much, I guess you can see how good this Racelogic stuff is.
As regards to timing gear.......
I have done a fair bit of testing with the Racelogic equipment from the last half of this years season. Testing the equipment at various venues including a couple of rounds of Time Attack, Tuner Grand Prix and also at Avon Park Raceway Drag Strip (along with various testing at Bruntingthorpe).
All I can say is that the Racelogic Driftbox rocks..... big style (and dont be put off by the fact it is called the "Driftbox").
Around Silverstone (on two TA rounds) and Snetterton (for Tuner Grand Prix), it was as accurate as you could ask for against the tracks own timing equipment. You can set the start/finish line as a GPS position once and then you just keep driving, so it will update your current lap time and also give you splits (if setup) and your overall fastest lap to date etc.
At Avon Park Raceway (don't forget this is also a FIA approved dragstrip, so should be as comparable against the timing gear used at Santa Pod) it was recording times within a nats cock of the official timing gear (I did this in October at AP, but I am sure it was because the times are only to 1 decimal place, so it was rounding up, but the speed was bang on).
The Driftbox uses GPS and has some really good features like overlaying GPS data against background maps and also track maps that are available (so you can see the lines you took etc). Obviously all captured data is available to download to PC to compare.
Now.... the beauty of this is, is that it only costs about Ł460!!!!!
Whilst I have not tested this against Datron stuff myself (I have been told by others it is AS accurate), the fact that the Datron stuff costs 10 times as much, I guess you can see how good this Racelogic stuff is.
