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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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The guy i work alongside has just handed his notice in, we have both been here nearly 3 years although i did leave for 6 months and came back.......

Well basically as he travels 80 miles a day when we got a big contract it came with a brand new merc as a thank you from mercedes, which my company gave to him due to his travelling..my boss has just sat me down and asked me to give a commitment that i am not going to be leaving anytime soon etc etc (obviously as i jumped ship once).....now obviously he will be givin the car back and they have said they will be selling it but do you think it would be wrong of me to ask then if i can have it???
Its a 05 plate c220 diesel..top of the range one

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if they want you then you'll get the car
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If you dont ask you dont get
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Dont ask dont get
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they want commitment from you - ask for it in return
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If you dont ask you dont get
Yeah true but im a pussy and dont wanna seem like im taking the piss.....

Do you reckon they will let me take it round the ring
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Yeah that'll work
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
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If you dont ask you dont get
Yeah true but im a pussy and dont wanna seem like im taking the piss.....

Do you reckon they will let me take it round the ring
just ask, you big poof

If you get the car, then take it round the ring anyway, but whatever you do dont crash it
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If you dont ask you dont get
Yeah true but im a pussy and dont wanna seem like im taking the piss.....

Do you reckon they will let me take it round the ring
just ask, you big poof

If you get the car, then take it round the ring anyway, but whatever you do dont crash it
hahaha quality, lets see if you say that next time i meet ya bitch

and i dont think the ring would be good in a £23k company car lol
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
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If you dont ask you dont get
Yeah true but im a pussy and dont wanna seem like im taking the piss.....

Do you reckon they will let me take it round the ring
just ask, you big poof

If you get the car, then take it round the ring anyway, but whatever you do dont crash it
hahaha quality, lets see if you say that next time i meet ya bitch

and i dont think the ring would be good in a £23k company car lol
i will say it next time i see you bitch im only messing around Dan

Maybe not such a good idea in a 23k car, you're right
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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If you dont ask you dont get
Yeah true but im a pussy and dont wanna seem like im taking the piss.....

Do you reckon they will let me take it round the ring
just ask, you big poof

If you get the car, then take it round the ring anyway, but whatever you do dont crash it
hahaha quality, lets see if you say that next time i meet ya bitch

and i dont think the ring would be good in a £23k company car lol
i will say it next time i see you bitch im only messing around Dan

Maybe not such a good idea in a 23k car, you're right
I know you are Rich no worries But i think you should let me have a go of ya car though as i did let your missus drive mine at Central Day all be it she was a bit tipsy
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If you dont ask you dont get
Yeah true but im a pussy and dont wanna seem like im taking the piss.....

Do you reckon they will let me take it round the ring
just ask, you big poof

If you get the car, then take it round the ring anyway, but whatever you do dont crash it
hahaha quality, lets see if you say that next time i meet ya bitch

and i dont think the ring would be good in a £23k company car lol
i will say it next time i see you bitch im only messing around Dan

Maybe not such a good idea in a 23k car, you're right
I know you are Rich no worries But i think you should let me have a go of ya car though as i did let your missus drive mine at Central Day all be it she was a bit tipsy
Thats now ex missus mate thank christ
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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theve asked u to stay wtf say to them gimmie the car , they can only say no !
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JayCos
theve asked u to stay wtf say to them gimmie the car , they can only say no !
actually my new stalker i am very good at my job, but thing is they could think im being cheeky and say you know what you can sod off too lovely just before xmas
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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dan just ask as a joke.

then u can all laugh it off if u get the impression they think ur taking the piss.
and if they dont u get a merc.


but if u do get it give it a few weeks at least b4 u christen and make sure u dont tell me about it after
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Originally Posted by Cowboi
dan just ask as a joke.

then u can all laugh it off if u get the impression they think ur taking the piss.
and if they dont u get a merc.


but if u do get it give it a few weeks at least b4 u christen and make sure u dont tell me about it after
good idea cowboy, they have asked me now how much i think its worth hahaa....maybe i should ask if i can buy it for £10k and pay them £1 perweek

and why you offering to help me Christen it son
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Im amazed anyone wants to employ anyone with so little initiative that you havent already asked for it
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Well make a joke of it with a big hint about the car!!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Im amazed anyone wants to employ anyone with so little initiative that you havent already asked for it
Oi lol i was going to ask for it during our meeting then they asked how much it would be worth lol....so sort of threw me off track

and he is 36 i am 22 they prob think i will crash it or something lol
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
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dan just ask as a joke.

then u can all laugh it off if u get the impression they think ur taking the piss.
and if they dont u get a merc.


but if u do get it give it a few weeks at least b4 u christen and make sure u dont tell me about it after
good idea cowboy, they have asked me now how much i think its worth hahaa....maybe i should ask if i can buy it for £10k and pay them £1 perweek

and why you offering to help me Christen it son
fuck off u dirty bastard.

say 10% of ur comission a week or something like that.

nothing really for what ur getting. it would cost a lot more to rent something like that
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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dan just ask as a joke.

then u can all laugh it off if u get the impression they think ur taking the piss.
and if they dont u get a merc.


but if u do get it give it a few weeks at least b4 u christen and make sure u dont tell me about it after
good idea cowboy, they have asked me now how much i think its worth hahaa....maybe i should ask if i can buy it for £10k and pay them £1 perweek

and why you offering to help me Christen it son
fuck off u dirty bastard.

say 10% of ur comission a week or something like that.

nothing really for what ur getting. it would cost a lot more to rent something like that
could be worth ago im gonna ask the bosses later this week when they have got over theshock of the other guy handnig his notice in.....would be nice to have a merc sitting on the drive without any oil leaks etc
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You doing the same job as him then?
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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You doing the same job as him then?
Yeah we are both the 2 main consultants for the DCUK Recruitment contract for the whole of the UK.....but i get the train and takes 15mins he travels from Milton Keynes to North London
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If doing same job then ask! i would.....

Trouble is if you dont really need it for your job, then they will prob say to get on your bike
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If doing same job then ask! i would.....

Trouble is if you dont really need it for your job, then they will prob say to get on your bike
Exactly i dont really need it as such at all i have a car and that but would be nice to have a nice merc on your drive that wil work everyday

i will ask them this week and see if i get the keys or a slap
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If you were smart... and if the rest of the 'Yeah have the car' people on this thread just stopped to think for a minute... you'd realise that by taking the car you would be in effect taking a PAY CUT...

Because you would get spanked for Company Car Tax as you are doing no business miles a year and the car is of a high value... Which means you would feel the full weight of the tax man as he splayed your arse cheeks and knocked it into next week.


SO....

Here's what you do...

You say because this chap is leaving and you are obviously going to have to take extra work etc, which isnt a problem as you like the job, which is why you came back. (put a positive spin on you leaving before)

SO... what you would like to propose is a small pay rise, say £3000 pa to cover the extra work, they will be saving on this other blokes salary in the time it take to recruit the blokes replacement so they should be able to afford it. its not going to cost them anything is it.

You then say so that both parties are protected you propose a Loyalty Bonus of say £5,000 which is paid to you after 6 months.

If you leave in that time, you dont get it, if they finish you in the time they pay it.


That way... just around June, when the show season is in full swing you get a nice little bonus to spend on your car


If they arent too keen just point out the hassle and cost of recruiting replacements and the potential loss to the company should you were to get a better offer in the next month or so.


You boss will know you are exploiting the situation slightly... but at least you are lubing up to shag his arse....


Be under no illusion if things were different they would finish you tomorrow....
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Oh... and if you do go down this route...

GET IT IN WRITING !!!
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i cant magine dan ever lubing some one up to shaft them
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by neilm
If you were smart... and if the rest of the 'Yeah have the car' people on this thread just stopped to think for a minute... you'd realise that by taking the car you would be in effect taking a PAY CUT...

Because you would get spanked for Company Car Tax as you are doing no business miles a year and the car is of a high value... Which means you would feel the full weight of the tax man as he splayed your arse cheeks and knocked it into next week.


SO....

Here's what you do...

You say because this chap is leaving and you are obviously going to have to take extra work etc, which isnt a problem as you like the job, which is why you came back. (put a positive spin on you leaving before)

SO... what you would like to propose is a small pay rise, say £3000 pa to cover the extra work, they will be saving on this other blokes salary in the time it take to recruit the blokes replacement so they should be able to afford it. its not going to cost them anything is it.

You then say so that both parties are protected you propose a Loyalty Bonus of say £5,000 which is paid to you after 6 months.

If you leave in that time, you dont get it, if they finish you in the time they pay it.


That way... just around June, when the show season is in full swing you get a nice little bonus to spend on your car


If they arent too keen just point out the hassle and cost of recruiting replacements and the potential loss to the company should you were to get a better offer in the next month or so.


You boss will know you are exploiting the situation slightly... but at least you are lubing up to shag his arse....


Be under no illusion if things were different they would finish you tomorrow....
Cheers Neil,

Although i wouldnt get company car tax as it isnt classed as a company asset, it would be in my name and insured through etc...so the tax isnt a problem.They have already given me a loyalty bonus of £2500 in october and then another in 6months for when i came back they didnt want me leaving again so cant really ask for another one

the only real downside is i WILL be doing 2 peoples work for the time being and will take me ages to train someone to be at a level that is anywhere any near of use to me.so could defo go with that idea and say i would LIKE it not WANT it, so they offer it to me......me not asking for it
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i cant magine dan ever lubing some one up to shaft them
you tosser
i had to lube you up as you WERE a virgin
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i cant magine dan ever lubing some one up to shaft them
you tosser
i had to lube you up as you WERE a virgin
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As if you need another car to get parking tickets in
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So what happens to the Company accounts when they suddenly give you a car?? The tax men are wise to things like this. They see it, sort you out, and then watch you, for a long while.
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As if you need another car to get parking tickets in
Tell me bout it, i have just sent 2 bloody appeal letters this morning one for Islington Coucil and one for Haringey hahahah
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So what happens to the Company accounts when they suddenly give you a car?? The tax men are wise to things like this. They see it, sort you out, and then watch you, for a long while.
Because the car is owned by the the owner of the company and not the compnay direct, therefore it is not a taxable asset.....at the moment the car is registered in the other guys name who is leaving..
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company car tax at our place is only paid for by people who have cars allocated to them
if you have a "pool" car you only get taxed the same as if you were using it for business miles only, ie bugger all as you aren't supposed to use it for private mileage, but everyone does

the other thing is that with so many pool cars and pay grades at which you can actually have a car, loads of the office peeps get cars to tool about in anyway and if you take one home after using it for work i don't think it's tha big a deal

my old boss had a thing where he was paying tax on a van, but they gave him a car, and he used it without feeling any pain in his postiriour, in fact he rather liked it as it was much mroe comfortable
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if you take one home after using it for work i don't think it's tha big a deal
No... but the Inland Revenue do.....

People always think they are smart and the Revenue are dumb... but this isnt the case... the Revenue know 98% of the tricks in the book and how to spot them and if you are unfortunate to get caught out then they start looking at back taxes.. and remember they can go back SEVEN years....


For a Director of a company it is more efficient to run a car as their car and claim mileage at the agreed rates, especially if they are doing a decent amount of business miles. (Eg first 10,000 business miles are paid at 40p per mile, 25p thereafter)

However, you cant then put repair bills, tax and insurance through the company.
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take the piss...

they sure as hell will at some point!!
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if you take one home after using it for work i don't think it's tha big a deal
No... but the Inland Revenue do.....

People always think they are smart and the Revenue are dumb... but this isnt the case... the Revenue know 98% of the tricks in the book and how to spot them and if you are unfortunate to get caught out then they start looking at back taxes.. and remember they can go back SEVEN years....


For a Director of a company it is more efficient to run a car as their car and claim mileage at the agreed rates, especially if they are doing a decent amount of business miles. (Eg first 10,000 business miles are paid at 40p per mile, 25p thereafter)

However, you cant then put repair bills, tax and insurance through the company.
thats all well and good, but if you are using the pool car to go halfway round the country and the offices are locked after 5pm then you can't really expect to get back later to go back to work and collect your car so they all go home and return it the next day

and seeing as most of them are nursing staff or training for osmething or other it makes sense

obviously this is not the case for all companies but it works for ours, and besides, van tax is free, or £3k per year so you want to get something for your money if you are paying forit don't you
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