Mark V8

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Don't shoot me down in flames for a what's it worth post

I've been looking at Escort Cosworth shells and the prices are mental so now may buy a complete car and sell the engine, box, turbo, intercooler, ECU, loom etc etc

Would it be worth my while buying a complete car and selling the engine and box or paying through the nose for a rolling shell?

cheers

Mark

S3an

if the escos you would buy is cheap,probably means the engine has done alot of miles or is in need of a rebuild, so cant see the motor etc been worth top dollar.still dont see many escos under the 10k region imo. how much are the sheels you have been looking at?

Mark V8

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Bare bones shells with no ID are around Ł3000
By the time I would have collected interior, bumpers etc etc the price will be getting a bit crazy for what will be a Q plate anyway.

Mark

Fiddy

yeah, there's a shell on ebay with no id, and i think thats on buy it now Ł3000

Mark V8

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So what would a proven good engine, box, ecu, loom, turbo, intercooler etc etc be worth if I left it in the car for test drives etc?

Mark

RWD_cossie_wil

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Buy a whole car mate- this cost me 8k https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#3009006


Fair enough it's high milage, but its got FSH, and the condition belies the mileage. I was going to buy a bare/trimmed shell to put all my RWD stuff into, but people were wanting 6-8K for a trimmed shell with ID, so I decided it would work out far cheaper to just buy a working car and sell off the bits I don't need. Unfortunatly I like the car far too much as it is, so its staying small turbo 4x4 , but whatever you are planning to do then buy a whole car and work backwards

cozzfather

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have a peep at this, ok its germany but loads of people go there
for a run around, what does it work out to in euro's

http://cgi.ebay.de/Escort-Cosworth-K...QQcmdZViewItem

RWD_cossie_wil

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oh and I had worked out I would have made about 4k back in the parts I didn't need RS2300 4x4

As I had a 2wd saff doner car, I would have sold the engine for Ł1500ish, box+ diffs Ł500, wheels Ł400, koni's Ł150, Std brakes all round Ł100, all the stuff like radiators, intercoolers, bottles/ pipes alternator/starter, prop shaft etc. But its staying 4x4 now change my mind more often than my pants

Mark V8

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When I finally get one it will be going 5 litre V8
and keeping the Ford MT75 4 wheel drive setup.

Mark

K500BHP

i think the box might suffer from the torque with a V8

Martin-Hadland

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dreamer springs to mind !!!

K500BHP

and you would'nt be wrong

K500BHP

is it just me or arnt my posts going up Before Martin i was on 225 and then when i posted after him im still on 225 THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN ON 225 POSTS. Thats just pissed me off

Moose 130

I paid Ł8k for mine 5 years ago, a mate paid Ł4k and Ł6k for his (both lhd)

so they are out there cheap.

but if you want value for money get a 4x4 sapph.

a cheap escos is worth more dead than alive.

Mark V8

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Just because I'm not a rich cnut with a fat wallet does not mean it will not happen, you could almost join Mad Rods arrogant rich tossers club for that comment
I used to have a lot of respect for what you have achieved but now can see your true colours

Slowly but surely I will get there doing ALL the work myself, the MT75 to 5 litre V8 adaptor I made at work and have the tool steel (P20/CSM3) on order to make the flywheel.




You are the man after all who tried to sell me a MT75 to Rover V8 bellhousing and there is not a chance in hell that combo will work with 4WD without butchering the cylinder block for diff clearance.

Mark

Mark V8

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So what makes you and expert on the subject?
Mark

badnews

by the look of your work chap i'm sure you will get there

cossie4i+

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That is a unfair comment by Mr Reyland very suprised

Steve.

Martin-Hadland

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Maybe my comment was a touch harsh and maybe i could understand your line of thought in not using a Cosworth engine if you goal was a load more low down torque but if that is the case why the fluck would you choose an MT75 box?

Shown my true colours over one comment, pleeeeeeeease

Your last comment regarding the Rover V8 and needing to butcher the cylinder cylinder block for clearance is total rubbish... I had all the parts in place without problems... the project was canned because I was offered a deal to fit a Cosworth engine which was carried out but the guy was made redundant, so the shell was sold on.

Now get the project finished and prove me wrong

PAUL S

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nice bit of engineering there

I have to get something similar made up to mate my hewland box to a YB block - what grade of alloy did you use for the adaptor?

Mark V8

iTrader: (2)

I will check the grade and get back to you, HE30 rings a bell but I'm not 100% sure.

My initial plan was to fit a 3.9 Rover V8 to my 2.9 XR4x4, the 2.9 block extends 1/2 inch below the crank centre line and the V8 Rover 2 1/4 inches so I machined the difference (1 3/4 inches) from a 2.9 sump and mocked it up on the engine with a diff fitted and there were clearance problems with the block, also if I used the Rover flywheel the front prop UJ would pass through it. I could not see an easy way out without raising the engine/offsetting the front diff so decided on the 5 litre Ford V8 engine, it only extends 1/8 inch below the crank CL giving more clearance than the standard 2.9 engine.

After several near death experiences on my turbo motorbike and having a young family I decided to sell it before it kills me and spend the extra cash on my V8 project, hence to search for a reasonable priced ECos shell.

I've had both 2 litre Cosworth and V8 powered Sierra's and hated the power delivery of the 2 litre engine, for budgetary reasons I'm sticking to around 300 bhp so the MT75 should cope OK with a bit of luck

IF I had a huge budget then I would go with a Dart 302 aluminium block and Skyline box but paying the mortgage comes first

Mark

RWD_cossie_wil

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still think it would work out cheaper for you to buy a whole car mate Nice project though,always good to see some proper engineering going on

Mark V8

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OK maybe beer and keyboards do not mix and I went a bit OTT with my reply

I'm intrigued as to how you managed to fit the front prop and diff in while allowing for the extra depth of the Rover V8 block and big flywheel ?

Looks like a complete but tired car is the cheapest option, thanks RWD_cossie_wil

The plate is HE30 aluminium if that is of any help.

Mark