Avinitlarge

Ive got a bottle sat in the garage, Shall I put it in, Ive used it before on other cars but ive been told not to use it, I know its a stupid question but im bored

Anonymous

No

PeterLucas

why thought it was supposed to be brilliant?

JTECH James

iTrader: (13)

doesnt do anything apart from waste money

SapphyMike

maybe the shit it flushes away is the only stuff holding your engine together?

phil4x4saph

It might well have saved my old GPZ500.

Blew a water hose about 15 miles from home.

I got scalding water down my boot - very pissed off!

So I just rode the fucker home!!

Everyone I told said "You did WHAT??!!"

Should have seized 5 minutes up the road.

Something must have saved it!

PeterLucas

Slick 50 aint an engine flush SapphyMike.

I heard of a test they did on a golf gti.

Ran one with no oil seized almost straight away.

Ran a second that had slick 50 in it, drained all oil out and ran for about 15 miles if i remember the story correctly!

Avinitlarge

Ive heard good and bad stuff about it, Still not sure if its actually any good, My mate used to race a mini and used slick 50 in that, After the race season he stripped the engine and there was hardly any wear.

EscortWRC

It will eventually end up in your oil filter

I'd say don't do it

SapphyMike

Zehr odd - I once used Slick 50 and it stated it was an engine flush!

phil4x4saph

You can buy Slick50 branded engine flush, but I assume they mean the PTFE friction reducer.

EscortWRC - why would that be a problem?

It would probably pass through the filter anyway - as its only supposed to stick to metal.

RS500/364

it is a ptfe liner
most tuner state do not use
i used it on a old engine /car COSWORTH hose pipe lost all the water again fucked up and cooked the engine red on the temp for about 5 mins before i found a petrol staion
when the hose was sorted car was fine your car you chose
i would do it again on a car i didnt know the history not one of the ones i had rebuild and they do state use on cars over a 20k miles engine i think

Bullett

iTrader: (2)

the reason most say dont use it is cos it coats the inside of the turbo and the shit ends up sticking to it.ive used it in a n/a car but never a turbo.
but up to you mate.

Avinitlarge

The engine was only rebuilt in may, Ive mot even done 8000 miles in the past year so the new engine must have done about 5000 miles max.

mick

iTrader: (1)

i used it in a rattly 8v dohc and it was fine for about two weeks then the rattle reappeared, changed the oil and all was fine, didn't seem to "hurt" the engine it did another 75K without incident......

tregmatt

iTrader: (3)

i never used slick50 but i have used prolong i find it very good i put it in
my rover td and my escort estate 1800 petrol i find it lowers engine temp
it starts better and it pulls better and it protects

col cos1

iTrader: (5)

i ran greased lightning through my cosworth last week,due to an annoying tap from top end,changed tappets 3 times in 2000miles to no change,shouldnt i have used that??

edd

i used the 2stroke version and did 35k total flat out thrashing every day and no rebore just rings every 10k.....

edd

"7 Jun 2004
I was the Creative Director of the ad agency that launched Slick 50 into the UK and wrote all the material that supported it. I hasten to add that I have had no connection with the company for many years.

Unfortunately, my records have long gone but I believe it was around 1985 that we were approached by Mitchell Marketing and the UK representative of Slick 50. As a motoring enthusiast myself, I refused to even consider yet another new 'wonder glop' until I was presented with independent test evidence - which indeed was forthcoming.

Our ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) are rightly very quick to jump on unsupported claims and I knew we would be challenged. Incidentally, the ASA does not except 'unsolicited testimonials' as evidence.

At this point I must add that I can only speak for the UK product. I believe that this differed at that time from the US product in two significant respects: it used a different base oil as a carrier and, more importantly, the PTFE chemical package was developed in the UK to a different formulation. Even the nature of the PTFE 'platelets' was different.

Two independent test reports were supplied in support of Slick 50. One was by Engineering Research and Application Ltd - an authoritative UK company - and the other by TUV - a German company considered to be Europe's leading testing authority.

ERA recorded, amongst other improvements, an average power increase of 12.70% and TUV an average friction reduction of 19.10%.

At that time, engine management systems were not chip-controlled and, after changing the oil and filter and introducing Slick 50, the treatment could be completed by idling the engine for 30 minutes. During that period users invariably found (I know I did!) that the idle setting had to be continually backed off as friction reduction caused the idle speed to increase.

As an empirical test, we also took three ordinary saloon cars to Mallory Park racing circuit. Two had been given the Slick 50 treatment. On arrival all three had the engine oil drained from the sump and were then driven around the circuit at a steady 50 mph. I recall that the untreated engine seized up within one mile, but the other two lapped continuously for 50 untroubled laps - one was being driven by rally champion Roger Clark.

I also recall that whereas the original UK formulation could have the Slick 50 platelets trapped by an unchanged oil filter (as the Automobile Association discovered the hard way when they attempted to test the product and forgot to read the instructions!) - a later improved formulation reduced the micron size to below 5 microns, which would pass through most conventional oil filters, although the filter change is still recommended.

Incidentally, I believe that the particle bonding system was also improved to the extent that the one to two micron thick layer of Slick 50 would require grinding off to remove it. I mention this layer as I note a reference to ' blocking oilways' - which I suggest would be extremely unlikely at this level of thickness.

I also recall another test on a DAF Turbo-diesel truck. This time the supercharger was dismantled after 150,000 miles and, despite the mileage and extreme operating temperature, wear was found to be negligible, with the Slick 50 coating virtually intact.

I believe that one of your other contributors asked why engine manufacturers didn't use this process, if it was so good. Again it is my recollection, and no doubt they might confirm this, that Ford did in fact start to use a PTFE coating for their pistons.

As you might imagine, rival products (now long gone) popped up to challenge our claims. So as well as the ASA we also had to provide supporting evidence to the satisfaction of Trading Standards Authorities - which we did.

As an amusing aside, I recall an account of a how one rival product based in Australia produced their own UK evidence by submitting a newspaper report of their treated car being driven without engine oil across Australia. Unfortunately, they published a picture of the car and the Australian Slick 50 representative recognised it as the same car that had previously been treated by a Slick 50 dealer and subjected to a similar, earlier test!

We suggested that even if the second treatment was indeed effective (we made no claim that it wasn't) the results may have been affected by the earlier Slick 50 treatment.

Personally I agree that consumers should always be sceptical. I often pointed out that if you added up all the claims made by performance improvers, then treating your whole vehicle should reduce fuel consumption to nearly zero!

Our claim was really only to do with friction reduction and it was up to the driver to decide how they would exploit that benefit - improved mileage or improved performance.

Initially, Slick 50 regarded the treatment as being effective 'for the life of the engine' but I believe that in the UK they now recommend retreatment after 100,000 miles. I suspect that this has more to do with credibility and the dangers of appearing to overclaim, then any real wear risk.

I hope this has been of some value and will gladly try to find more detail if you would find it useful.

Len Teff
Syresham, Northants, UK."

Fast Guy

I used it in my montego turbo. I drove about 10miles to the nearest Rover dealer, for them to tell me the reason I had no oil pressure (that's 0, not low) was that the pump was bust. So it gets my vote.