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Old 22-11-2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Porkie, just to put into perspective how slow that 32 seconds is.

Rods car does 0-186 in 19 seconsd.

That means that car could have a 13 seconds lead.

That car probably does 0-100 in 13 seconds, so it could go past Rod doing 100mph, while he was still parked up, and he would still get to 200mph as quickly, lol
I suspect it would be quicker to 100 than 13 secs or an M3 would be all over its arse
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Porkie, just to put into perspective how slow that 32 seconds is.

Rods car does 0-186 in 19 seconsd.

That means that car could have a 13 seconds lead.

That car probably does 0-100 in 13 seconds, so it could go past Rod doing 100mph, while he was still parked up, and he would still get to 200mph as quickly, lol
I suspect it would be quicker to 100 than 13 secs or an M3 would be all over its arse
I agree, i would expect it to be quicker than that as well, by a fair margin, i was being VERY kind to it in terms of what speed headstart it would need to match Rod to get to 200mph

If its does 0-120 in 13 seconds, then it would need to be doing 120mph when Rod put down his lunch and decided to engage first gear and go and catch it before it stood a chance

Any claim about Rod's car tends to get quickly critisised on this forum for some reason, so i was stacking everything against UNDER estimating the difference between the two.

Rods car isnt just a bit quicker than the CLS in terms of acceleration to 200mph, its on a COMPLETELY different level.
Old 22-11-2006, 03:59 PM
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Chip,

not often you make mistakes mate, but that car will do 0-100 in a lot less than 13 secs. Mine will do it quicker than 13 TBH.

I bet that Merc would do 0-100-0 in less than 13 secs
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Chip,

not often you make mistakes mate, but that car will do 0-100 in a lot less than 13 secs. Mine will do it quicker than 13 TBH.

I bet that Merc would do 0-100-0 in less than 13 secs
As above rich, i was giving it the benefit of the doubt from 100-186, making the assumping it changes gears at 61 and 99 or something to result in a very low 0-100 time, in reality though, the difference between it and Rods is in fact FAR greater than my very conservative exmaple showed.

Assuming it does a quarter mile as quick as my mates corsa, it should do 0-120 in 13 seconds.

That means if it went past rod parked up doing 120mph, and he started then, it would be even to 200mph, but i thought if i said 100mph it would get the point accross in a way that no one could possibly argue wasnt a fair example.


Hell, rods car can even give a mclaren F1 a 60mph head start and match it to 200mph, so that saloon thing isnt even close to his in terms of the real performance of it.
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(from BRABUS Press Release) The world's fastest four-door coupe comes from BRABUS (www.brabus.com) and celebrates its world premiere at the Frankfurt Motor Show IAA 2005 in Frankfurt/Main.
This automobile, built in small-series production based on the Mercedes CLS model series, is powered by a 730-hp / 537-kW 6.3-liter twelve-cylinder twin-turbo engine, that was implanted with almost surgical precision into the engine bay of the four-door.

The performance speaks for itself: 0 – 100 km/h in 4.0 seconds, 0 – 200 km/h in 10.5 seconds, 0 – 300 km/h in 29.5 seconds are just as unique as is the electronically limited top speed of 350 km/h.
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
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Porkie, just to put into perspective how slow that 32 seconds is.

Rods car does 0-186 in 19 seconsd.

That means that car could have a 13 seconds lead.

That car probably does 0-100 in 13 seconds, so it could go past Rod doing 100mph, while he was still parked up, and he would still get to 200mph as quickly, lol
I suspect it would be quicker to 100 than 13 secs or an M3 would be all over its arse
I agree, i would expect it to be quicker than that as well, by a fair margin, i was being VERY kind to it in terms of what speed headstart it would need to match Rod to get to 200mph

If its does 0-120 in 13 seconds, then it would need to be doing 120mph when Rod put down his lunch and decided to engage first gear and go and catch it before it stood a chance

Any claim about Rod's car tends to get quickly critisised on this forum for some reason, so i was stacking everything against UNDER estimating the difference between the two.

Rods car isnt just a bit quicker than the CLS in terms of acceleration to 200mph, its on a COMPLETELY different level.
I see

I bet Rod will be watching this topic and itching to comment
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Originally Posted by smithy20vt
0 – 100 km/h in 4.0 seconds,
0 – 200 km/h in 10.5 seconds,
0 – 300 km/h in 29.5 seconds

Perfect, that makes the acutal numbers VERY easily.

IIRC Rods is 19 seconds to 300km/h


So this thing is 10.5 seconds slower to 300km/h

And this thing does 0-200km/h in 10.5 seconds.



So the actual numbers then, are that it takes as long to get from 200kmh-300kmh as Rods does to get from 0-300kmh

So to get to 186mph at the same time, It would have to have a 125mph headstart in fact.

So ALL my figures were conservative about.

It would take it as long to slowly struggle the last 61mph as Rods would to do the entire sprint from 0-186mph


That even got to impress Lee i should think, LOL!
Old 22-11-2006, 04:22 PM
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...i think we have just found Rods new puppet


People do seem to forget Rod had what near 900bhp with about a ton weight advantage....so compare it now.

Sierra 900bhp 1200kilos

Merc 750bhp 2200kilos


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I'm strangely proud of myself for starting this topic!

There's been some great posts from Chip above.
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Bosch-Man: Is that an MR2 in your sig?
Old 22-11-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...i think we have just found Rods new puppet


People do seem to forget Rod had what near 900bhp with about a ton weight advantage....so compare it now.

Sierra 900bhp 1200kilos

Merc 750bhp 2200kilos



Phil, im just hoping that Rod doesnt see this topic mate.

Far from being a puppet, ive been VERY insulting to the performance of his car by implying that the merc might only need a 100 or 120mph lead, when in fact it was 125mph all along.

If you are reading this Rod, then sorry, but i just like slagging your car off and making it sound far slower than it is, you will also notice i was kind to the Macca, i believe the real figure is more like 70mph, that it would need as a headstart, but again i was playing your car down.

I must be jealous LOL
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Bosch-Man: Is that an MR2 in your sig?

Yes
Old 22-11-2006, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by M7 COS
Bosch-Man: Is that an MR2 in your sig?

Yes

Quality reply
Old 22-11-2006, 05:19 PM
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chip ,nobody is slating rods car its just the fastest topspeed cos we know,so dont turn it into yet another arguement,,i mean ffs now you have got phil involved
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Originally Posted by dovboy
chip ,nobody is slating rods car its just the fastest topspeed cos we know,so dont turn it into yet another arguement,,i mean ffs now you have got phil involved
Someone WAS slating Rods car, me! lol
Old 22-11-2006, 05:54 PM
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Love the Brabus Rocket





The owner of DC the snowboarding/Skating comanys new car Matte Black rocket harder than ... well pritty much everything
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Originally Posted by Homer.
Love the Brabus Rocket





The owner of DC the snowboarding/Skating comanys new car Matte Black rocket harder than ... well pritty much everything
Thats fuckin lovely! Not seen that before!
Old 22-11-2006, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by chip-3door
No rods car can NOT do that speed, as it isnt geared for it.

But it COULD show it a clean pair of heals at brunters, that CLS would probably only crack 190mph just about in such a small space.
I dunno mate.... Ronnies GT3 with UNDER 400bhp did 190mph at Brunters.
Thats pretty fuckin impressive! What other times has it done?

Has he still got the Skyline?
Old 22-11-2006, 06:51 PM
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I don't give a fuck what Rod's car can do.

That car is pure automotive sex. It is possibly my favorite car. proper tool, proper saloon, proper expensive and proper fast.

Hands down, If i had a spare Ł250k I'd be buying one of them.
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Hi
Chip has just phoned to say about this thread

Yes in theory mine could beat that around 231 the maths say.
BUT in practice a deffo no !!

At the mo have done 210 in 1.41 miles & that means about 14secs on the throttle from say 175 to 210. To reach 227 would take around another 20+secs so that would be 35+s total in 5th at 100% throttle with around 900bhp ( Mark has just turned grey & passed out). In distance at over 100m/sec would take about 1.5miles so over 3miles to reach it.
Can I suggest the wings would have fallen off & the chassis broken in two by this stage .
Buy the Mercedes lads its less trouble.

We met the development hack for this engine at an event at Brunters, it ran a 188 best I believe. We would tan its butt big time at 1.5 miles but beyond that 7 litres is what its about.
Rod

ps. This is not my user name, PH is my mechanic, who helps prepare my car for events & has recently started dating my daughter ( I wondered why he was so keen to keep coming round). Hes a Seat Leon & not a Cossie man but will keep me posted on threads like this one, more Technical than banter. Hes just got a job with the Red Bull F1 outfit , so my car may become un-reliable overnight.
pps. Am enjoying my break from PF it becomes a habit & believe me its a relief when you break it. Ive lots on at the mo so no desire to start logging on again. When I stop work in March I may feel differently.
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by M7 COS
Bosch-Man: Is that an MR2 in your sig?

Yes
Quality!

It doesn't half look good though!
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More motoring madness brought to you courtesy of zee germans
lot of money for what it is though would rather have something else for that many Ł notes


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Hi
Chip has just phoned to say about this thread

Yes in theory mine could beat that around 231 the maths say.
BUT in practice a deffo no !!

At the mo have done 210 in 1.41 miles & that means about 14secs on the throttle from say 175 to 210. To reach 227 would take around another 20+secs so that would be 35+s total in 5th at 100% throttle with around 900bhp ( Mark has just turned grey & passed out). In distance at over 100m/sec would take about 1.5miles so over 3miles to reach it.
Can I suggest the wings would have fallen off & the chassis broken in two by this stage .
Buy the Mercedes lads its less trouble.

We met the development hack for this engine at an event at Brunters, it ran a 188 best I believe. We would tan its butt big time at 1.5 miles but beyond that 7 litres is what its about.
Rod

ps. This is not my user name, PH is my mechanic, who helps prepare my car for events & has recently started dating my daughter ( I wondered why he was so keen to keep coming round). Hes a Seat Leon & not a Cossie man but will keep me posted on threads like this one, more Technical than banter. Hes just got a job with the Red Bull F1 outfit , so my car may become un-reliable overnight.
pps. Am enjoying my break from PF it becomes a habit & believe me its a relief when you break it. Ive lots on at the mo so no desire to start logging on again. When I stop work in March I may feel differently.
The Definitive Answer!

Thanks Rod...and welcome back, if only for one post!
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Porkie, just to put into perspective how slow that 32 seconds is.

Rods car does 0-186 in 19 seconsd.

That means that car could have a 13 seconds lead.

That car probably does 0-100 in 13 seconds, so it could go past Rod doing 100mph, while he was still parked up, and he would still get to 200mph as quickly, lol
I can't believe that it would take that car that long to reach 100! my old car did it in 6 seconds! I reckon given it's power that time would be much less than 13 secs!
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
I can't believe that it would take that car that long to reach 100! my old car did it in 6 seconds! I reckon given it's power that time would be much less than 13 secs!

It actually reaches 120 in 10.5s, mine is 9.3 so at that point its quick. However 120-200 is rather more sedate.
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Is pretty silly when u think about how quick Rod's car is.

I think those CLS's are ugly I park next to one at uni, they're everywhere around here!
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Originally Posted by ThePH
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
I can't believe that it would take that car that long to reach 100! my old car did it in 6 seconds! I reckon given it's power that time would be much less than 13 secs!

It actually reaches 120 in 10.5s, mine is 9.3 so at that point its quick. However 120-200 is rather more sedate.
so, it's a lot faster than chiperoo would have given it credit for! it is very fast for a luxury saloon that would without a doubt come with warranty! knew you could not stay away rodders
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Sorry guys but its ugly

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It would take it as long to slowly struggle the last 61mph as Rods would to do the entire sprint from 0-186mph

immense stat
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looks like the kinda thing batman would drive in the day
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Originally Posted by timrud
"Featuring a 6.3-litre twin turbocharged V12, the Brabus Rocket produces 730bhp and has an electronically limited 811 lb/ft of pulling power."

Why not de-limit it?
the gear boxes cant take anymore torque
Old 22-11-2006, 10:25 PM
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not with a warranty anyway!

Thats the biggest problem these days. These big saloons can easily accomodate multi valve 6 litre plus turbo engines, which could do 1200bhp with ease - but the axel shit itself!
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by ThePH
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
I can't believe that it would take that car that long to reach 100! my old car did it in 6 seconds! I reckon given it's power that time would be much less than 13 secs!

It actually reaches 120 in 10.5s, mine is 9.3 so at that point its quick. However 120-200 is rather more sedate.
so, it's a lot faster than chiperoo would have given it credit for! it is very fast for a luxury saloon that would without a doubt come with warranty! knew you could not stay away rodders
Martoon, go back and read the post, i was actually doing the opposite i was giving it credit for being quicker from 100mph onwards than it really is by putting a worse case for its time to 100.

As at that point we didnt have the other figures to hand, so i was slanting everything in its favour from 100mph onwards when comparing it to rods.

If its 10 seconds slower to 186 than rods, then the more time it takes to do the first 100mph the less it takes to do the last 86, and hence would need less of a headstart on rods.

I was just being kind to the Merc with its accleration at higher speeds.
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