Daveysaff

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I know this has probably been covered a million times, but I dont care!
How much power do you all think mondy 4x4 running gear can take? ( gearbox, diff and transfer box) I want to 4x4 my focus and this looks the easiest route without chopping the bulkhead and the floorpan out.
Or had anyone done it?
Ta in advance

PaulCossie

it might help if you say what sort of engine your thinking of using?

PaulCossie

assuming its not the mondeo engine

Daveysaff

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Sorry
I'd be sticking with the 2.0 blacktop thats already in there, with a view to turboing or supercharging when I can get 5 grand to do it properly!

PaulCossie

im sure that'd be fine for the std 2.0ltr engine but i'm not sure what power the running gear you mention would take?

It might be worth exploring the use of mitsy evo running gear, im sure there are a few breakers around. The engine position is more similar to a fwd car and its also very strong... one posibility anyway

Daveysaff

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I'm sure someones done this a few years ago, painted it cadburys purple. Was on the cover of Fast Ford, but I cant find any info anywhere
Its had Fiat Coupe management on it or summat daft

Cawood

speak to martin @ reyland

he did a 4x4 mondy cossie, quality motor did a 178mph top speed run IIRC

Daveysaff

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My welding skills are basic mate to say to very least. I'm not chopping my floor pan out! I'm 99% sure that the mondy stuff will fit with only my spare wheels well chopped out. ( and the exhaust re routed. )

PaulCossie

That might well be a good starting point, if you end up putting more power thru the transmission then you can then start thinking about uprating it... im sure quaife would do a kit for that box

Daveysaff

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AS sson as I get the bits, i'll start a project thread then!!
PaulCossie is yours done yet?

PaulCossie

nearly

Micky

That car was in the intermediate group at Nat Day in 2005.It was a smokey roadblock that day and spent all its time between sessions up on axle stands.I dont know what was wrong with it,but it was a heap of sh*te on track.Regards,Micky

Daz-rst

mondy 4x4 use the same sort of running gear as rs2K 4x4 iirc good because it utilises the transverse engine position but need to uprate transfer box i believe to take over 250bhp. but as said evo running gear can be made to fit

alanfordtw-15

he used all cosworth 4x4 axels box and running gear ect.
not the tranverse zetec 4x4 gear.
i tought that purple focus had cosworth management

Daveysaff

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I'm gonna go shopping for bits on payday and them speak to CTS, see what they say about it. Might speak to them first actually, before i part with any cash!

Micky I'll have to build mine properly then!!

bluescortcossie

this has got me thinking , i wonder how hard it would be to convert my st24 (mk2) mondy to 4wd or even rear , i guessing that the problem would be with the gearbox and transfer box as the 4wd was only on a 2.0 zetec

James

You sure about that?

i thought the reyland mondeo cosworth was transverse fwd?

re: st24 4x4, jaguar x-type, transverse 2.5 v6 4wd using a mondeo floorpan.

bluescortcossie

not sure chap , rwd v6 mondy would be fun though

zedin

the reyland mondeo is actually 4wd and as to the evo gear
DJM motorsport have modified a cosworth engine to take
4wd and have mounted it transversly so may want to speak to them
djm-motorsport.co.uk

Porkie

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He is right. Mondeo uses Cosworth 4x4 running gear.

Why would anyone want to build a 500bhp FWD car??!?!?! never understood that!

Tony Ryan

Ive a customer bought a Hewland 6 speed sequential 4wd gearbox from me last year, apparently its now in a Focus that runs a Zetec turbo engine i do have another box and a couple of diffs if anyones feeling brave , lol .

James

i stand corrected then.. sure someone on here had a fwd yb mondeo?

Anonymous

I had one, but i only bought it for spares, lol

what a pointless idea, the YB is crap for fwd imho, i would sooner turbo a zetec!

Avinitlarge

I always though the mondeo 4x4 system was made of cheese and couldnt handle over 150bhp

Mark V8

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This is what 300bhp does to a RS2000 4x4 transfer box




This was an uprated one, much more than 200 bhp and they are toast, you cant buy a new one and no new parts are available.

Mark

Stavros

Yes, which just happens to be P8, exactly same as EscCos...

Stu @ M Developments

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Unless its a 20V.

Stavros

Indeed.

But on that note, what DO 20Vs run?

(Going a bit off topic, but what managment did Integrales run? Did evos run P8? Did 16v's ran L8? Ad ive never heard owt about what 8valves ran...)

Turbo Zetec

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intergrales used weber marelli, but not the same as the cosworth models afaik

i just picked up a complete ecu and wiring loom from a lancia dedra (not delta, before anybody tries to correct me,) intergrale for a bargain price! will probably be making its way onto a metro

so fiat coupe's ran p8... hmm... i've got an idea!

zedin

Davey C - if you really want to do this and have over 280 bhp you will need the transfer box uprated as there was a 300BHP RS2000 that was featured in fast ford and performance ford and he had the transfer uprated and no issues - i think he got it done at cts and he also had the oil capacity increased at the same time

Mark V8

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That's the one in the pics above

Mark

Daveysaff

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I'm thinking more along the lines of an xr4x4/Saff Ghia floor pan and a donor shell to chop up afer seeing that pic!
I would prefer to have as little fabrication as poss, but if I do it, I've gotta do it properly or it'll be shite

zedin

yeah it wont be simple but you should check out the other projects on this forum as there are a few people doing RWD and 4WD conversions
and ask them if you are unsure and check some engineering books
the simplest way i see it would be just to use the floorpan out of the sierra
and leave the engine bay area as standard so no grafting together bulkheads etc. and this would mean the mounting points would already be on the floorpan from the sierra so minimum fabrication